The biggest question remaining for the prosecution is whether either of Travyon Martin’s parents will be called to the witness stand to testify about whose voice is screaming in the background of the 911 calls made right before the shooting.
Martin’s parents, Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, contend it is their 17-year-old son screaming on the calls, while Zimmerman’s father has said it is his son. The screams are crucial pieces of evidence because they could determine who the aggressor was in the confrontation. An FBI expert testified earlier in the week that a person familiar with a voice is in the best position to identify it.
http://newblackwoman.com/2012/03/27/if-he-had-answered-him-in-the-appropriate-manner-there-wouldnt-be-any-problem/
Sufficient evidence has been introduced to support a guilty verdict in Zimmerman case
http://frederickleatherman.com/2013/07/07/sufficient-evidence-has-been-introduced-to-support-a-guilty-verdict-in-zimmerman-case/
NBC’s Dan Abrams, whom I generally respect, has announced that he believes the jury will find the the defendant not guilty of both murder 2 and manslaughter. Given the State’s difficult burden to disprove self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt, which he believes to be impossible since the defendant has a coherent theory of the case supported by many witnesses as well as the photographs showing the injuries to his head, he said that he does not see any way that the jury can convict him.
In reaching that opinion, I believe Abrams commits the same mistake that so many of his colleagues commit on a daily basis regarding all of the important stories and issues of the day. They assume that there are two sides to every story and each side has both strengths and weaknesses. In other words, they assume the opposing sides are roughly equally legitimate. This assumption is not based on a thorough evidence based review of the respective sides or an objective evaluation of the strengths and weaknesses of the opposing arguments.
In fact, the assumption of equivalency is a false assumption and an extremely poor substitute for investigative journalism and critical thinking.
Abrams also commits another mistake by failing to acknowledge that the jury will decide how much weight to assign to the evidence. For example, the jury could decide that the defendant is a liar and disregard everything he said that is not independently supported by other credible evidence.
For a long time I have been describing this case a simple case. The jury can reasonably infer based on the evidence introduced at trial that the defendant attempted to locate and physically prevent Trayvon Martin from being yet another fucking punk and asshole who always escapes out the rear entrance of the neighborhood before the police arrive. They could also reasonably conclude that Trayvon uttered the terrified death shriek since he was unarmed and the shriek ended with the gunshot. Finally, they also could conclude that the absence of any of the defendant’s blood or DNA on Trayvon Martin’s hoodie means Trayvon did not attack the defendant.
Anyone who has taken the time to study this case should realize that there is sufficient evidence in the record to support a verdict of guilty to murder 2.
Indeed, Judge Nelson so ruled on Friday.
Therefore, Abrams opinion that there is not sufficient evidence to support a guilty verdict is flat out wrong.
The George Zimmerman trial is the worst fear of every black family
http://ow.ly/mJi7p
The Trayvon Martin case has been nothing short of heartbreak from the very beginning. Regardless of what anyone believes about Trayvon’s past, his innocence or George Zimmerman’s, the fact remains that a teenager is dead. I honestly didn’t think I would get emotionally broken up more than I was over the story that Rachel Jeantel’s friendship with Martin stemmed from the fact he was one of the only people who never picked on her. The story painted such a tragic picture of friendship and two people whose lives will never be the same.
Then came this week’s testimonies and reactions from Trayvon Martin’s parents to leave me – and so much of America – floored. On Friday morning, Sybrina Fulton took the stand to talk about her son. As part of her testimony she had to identify her child’s screams in his finals seconds of life. Later in the day, Tracy Martin had to sit in court as the medical examiner, Dr Bao, explained how Trayvon died in severe pain and was alive for minutes after getting shot in the chest.
Essentially, Friday – almost as much as the day Trayvon was shot – was any parent’s nightmare. Trayvon’s parents had to come face to face with their son’s murder while Fulton got questioned over whether or not her son actually deserved to get killed. Tracy had to sit in the same room as the man who shot his son in the chest, unable to retaliate or let the rage he has to be feeling out.
Yes, this is the worst imaginable day for a parent. But it’s one the parents of an African-American child has been conditioned to accept as a possibility.
While non black families talk with their teen boys about high school & dating, AA families talk with their teen boys on how to act when dealing with police and how to stay alive. It’s a shame we have to prepare our boys for how other may perceive them. But it’s a talk that could very well be the difference between life and death for young AA boys.
‘Stand Your Ground’ Laws To Be Scrutinized For Racial Bias By Civil Rights Commission
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/31/stand-your-ground-racial-bias_n_3365893.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
WASHINGTON — The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights voted on Friday to launch an investigation into whether “Stand Your Ground” laws around the country have a racial bias.
These statutes gained attention after the February 2012 fatal shooting of Travyon Martin, an unarmed African-American teenager. Authorities initially refused to arrest neighborhood watch leader George Zimmerman, who is accused of shooting Martin, citing Florida’s Stand Your Ground law. These measures allow individuals to stand their ground and use deadly force in self-defense, with no obligation to first attempt to retreat.
During a meeting in downtown Washington, D.C., on Friday, the commission approved the investigation in a 5-3 vote, with one Republican commissioner joining the four Democrats. The board is evenly split between Republicans and Democrats, although two of the GOP members identify as independent after an attempt during the George W. Bush administration to stack the board. (The commission’s charter says no more than four members can belong to the same political party.)
The push for an investigation was led by Democratic Commissioner Michael Yaki.
“This is something the commission has not done in decades — a full-blown field investigation of an issue with potential civil rights ramifications,” Yaki told The Huffington Post, explaining that much of their work in recent years has focused instead on briefings and receiving testimony.
“We’re going to take our own cut at it, go down, dig through records at the district attorney, police level and other things, and start going through … to see whether or not, as some people suspect, that there is bias in the assertion or the denial of Stand Your Ground, depending on the race of the victim or the race of the person asserting the defense,” he said.
Zimmerman: The Difference Between a Hate Crime and a Civil Rights Violation
http://frederickleatherman.com/2012/11/27/zimmerman-the-difference-between-a-hate-crime-and-a-civil-rights-violation/
I have written this article to eliminate some confusion regarding federal statutes that criminalize civil rights violations. Zimmerman might potentially be prosecuted for committing a hate crime, if a federal grand jury concludes that there is probable cause to believe that he profiled and killed Trayvon Martin because he was Black.
Since Zimmerman is a private citizen, rather than a state official, and he was acting as a private citizen, rather than acting as a state official under color of state law, he cannot be charged with violating Martin’s civil rights. However, Chris Serino and other state officials potentially could be prosecuted for civil rights violations for the way they conducted their investigation of the Martin homicide, as well as other investigations that resulted in controversial conclusions.
The reason for this distinction in the federal criminal laws is that the Bill of Rights protect private citizens from actions committed by federal and state officials that violate one or more of a person’s constitutional rights that are set forth in the Bill of Rights. Those rights do not apply to actions committed by a private citizen against another private citizen.
George Zimmerman feeling the heat. LOL!
http://youtu.be/eDpcIDgVzp4&rel=0
I keep thinking about the hollow point bullet. The underlying truth here seems to be that Zimmerman was on a trajectory that was going to end up with someone being killed. He was on a collision course with some innocent person who was going to cross his path sooner or later, and that person turned out to be Trayvon.
Zimmerman was a hunter who went out in the night stalking his prey, armed with a ready to fire 9mm handgun, and loaded with hollow point bullets so that the death of his prey would be a certainty.
Sanford Police knew Zimmerman was a problem ready to be unleashed on innocent citizens in Sanford. They have evidence of his constant phone calls and they sit back and allowed an innocent kid to be gunned down for nothing. I hope they’re SUED to the knees.
So true, SG2. The SPD literally gave Zimmerman a LICENSE to PREY & KILL black men and boys.
Mark Osterman helped him pick out the gun. I’m sure it was all planned out how to take down their prey. And then Osterman gets on the stand and sweats like a pig.
It really hope that the DOJ intends to do something about a few of those redneck Sanford lawmen. Those old boys need to feel the long arm of the law just Zimmerman.
Maybe that’s why Serino lawyered up? He looked like a scared little puppy on the stand.
I believe that’s true. Serino knows he could end up being charged by the Feds and I am so hoping that is what happens. When a town like Sanford has a cop problem that is this bad, a few cop heads need to roll. These people need to be taught that they are not above the law themselves, and that everyone, absolutely everyone is equal before the law.
What is there to protect young, black males like Trayvon Martin from the George Zimmermans? Not a damn thing except the law. No one can predict when some armed, bloodthirsty psychopath is going to decide to go hunting and confront an innocent victim. The law is supposed to provide severe consequences for murderers so that would be killers have to weigh the possibility of life without parole against a thrill kill. But if the cops won’t enforce the law, then how in the blazing hell are these young men supposed to live without fear of becoming the next victim while they are walking home from the store?
Those Sanford lawmen need to be taught a lesson that others like them can learn from.
Good post, Liza!
Motion for Judgment of Acquittal Denied
There are two people involved here. One of them is dead and one of them is a liar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ-Iyncl2iA
@SG2. I was just coming over here. :-) Thanks.
The 2012 Florida Statutes
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0776/Sections/0776.041.html
Title XLVI
CRIMES
Chapter 776
JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE
View Entire Chapter
776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.
History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1190, ch. 97-102.
My interview with Trayvon Martin’s brother, Jahvaris Fulton. http://t.co/mK6VCvbTWh
— Sunny Hostin (@SunnyHostin) July 5, 2013
I know this is an icky subject but is it possible that Jorge diddled both George and Junior and his lying on the stand is a way to pay penance?
Someone mentioned Alicia ( I guess this is Trayvon’s stepmom). Are you saying she would testify to Trayvon’s ‘fighting’ or that it’s not him screaming on the 911 call?
Was Alicia left out of the HOA settlement money and would testifying for the defense be her way to gain revenge on Tracy and Sybrina?
What really gets my blood boiling is the very act of O’Mara flat out suggesting to Sybrina Fulton that her son Trayvon Martin was responsible for his own murder. I absolutely LOATHE these muthafuckas.
I have a thing of agreeing “quickly with thine adversary” and had it been me answering O’Mara’s question, I would have answered it with a question: “You mean you want to know if Trayvon caused his own death by going to the store and walking home?”
I hope this trial puts O’Mara’s career to an end.
@SG2.
What career? LOL!! O’Mara’s law practice focus was mainly family law. He did commentary on the Casey Anthony case for local television. Don West had a pretty closet-type career as a federal public defense attorney representing Jihad terrorists.
So O’Mara slings the mud in GZ’s case like it’s a divorce case, and West paints the defendant as a person who has his own interpretations that victimized him.
Yes; it’s called “Socratic questioning”. Sybrina told MOM she didn’t know what he was asking her. She just couldn’t/didn’t go there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_questioning
@SG2. LOL The defense team are 2 Creepy Ass Crackas funded by rich CaCs.
The “#zimmermantrial jurors are mothers” talk ignores that their Whiteness protects their kids from being profiled/slandered in death.
— Black Canseco (@BlackCanseco) July 5, 2013
Tell it Camille, granny was thinking the same thing. Folks pay close attention to these TV lawyers just in case you need a lawyer, so you’ll know who to avoid. No wonder there are so many minorities in prisons that were railroaded.
Granny is exhausted. I nodded to sleep for awhile at the keyboard. This trial has had me up late into the night and up early. This morning I woke up late, but I’m still tired. I think my lack of rest is catching up with me, but I cannot rest until GZ is handcuffed and sent to jail or hell.
So they dragged out the black sheep of the family to claim that George was the one screaming?
These people are so f-ing pathetic and transparent that there are no words.
And who gives a damn about his military service?
He is trying to use that to bolster his credibility because he knows he’s a damn liar like his sister and nephew.
Both sides of the George’s family are scum.
@Rodney, they are worse than scum. They are excrement.
Oma had to ask if he took his oath seriously or something similar. What a dumb question? He had the dumbest presentation for the acquittal section. The prosecution was ready. Justice for Trayvon.
The Zimmermans are really disgusting people that shouldn’t be called human beings. Anybody could tell that is Trayvon’s voice. Even if it wasn’t his voice, it was that of a child. The prosecution (who I have no faith in ),should have gave GZ a scream test to prove it.
@SG2. As promised. I’m taking a break for dinner then back to work. :-)
http://youtu.be/Rpj0TuqbfiA&rel=0
You rocked it, Xena. I just tweeted it.
Those vanilla ice cream cones make an excellent visual substitute for white hoods. But I’m sure they were unaware of this.
I’ve never seen an attorney engage in such glaring racism in my life.
@BlackCanseco
The media was good with Zimmerman’s uncle’s bad english but not Rachel Jeantel’s. #zimmermantrial
Black Canseco @BlackCanseco
When’s the last time you saw a trial or a story where we blamed an unarmed White male for his own shooting death? #zimmermantrial #trayvon
What unarmed White male was blamed for his own shooting death?
Uhhh. Let me think. (thinking) None.
@drgoddess
#Trayvon had praying hands & his Mom’s name tatooed on his body. #Zimmerman has a gang sign on his shoulder. #ZimmermanTrial #J4TM #J4GZ
Is it true that Alicia is a defense witness? If so, I hope they tear that manipulative lying hussy a new one. She might be fool some white folks, but black folks see through her scheming, conniving azz, especially black women. I got a cousin like that; I swear she can fake crocodile tears and make somebody think that she has been done so wrong.
She wouldn’t dare… :(
Please, SAY.IT.AIN’T.SO.
who is Alicia?
Tracy Martin’s ex wife. No one needs her drama at this critical time.
that heifer on tv?
Oh she’s the one who went on tv and said that George didn’t profile Trayvon because he was black?
I wondered how much of George’s blood money she got to go on tv and tell that lie.
What testimony can Alicia possibly provide that proves Zimmerman killed Trayvon in self-defense? NONE.
I guess she would a witness to Trayvon’s ‘fighting’. LOL
I’d sooner believe Jahvaris’ word about Trayvon than Alicia’s word ANY DAY.
What can one expect from scum that set up a web-site to solicit blood money for the killing of a child. ALL of them have nasty filthy souls.
Okay, I’m back. GZ’s mother and uncle lied and it so obvious. The uncle’s lie was obvious, a child could see through his lie. The mother and her theatrics made me want to pull out a violin. She and the uncle full of dung. No wonder GZ is a habitual liar. He gets it honest.
Yes ma’am. Learned behavior!
IMO, the defense made a serious mistake putting uncle Meza on the witness stand. This is why. It demonstrates a family member who is a deputy sheriff and previously served in the Armed forces. Yet here is GZ, without military service, and denied employment in law enforcement, wanting to be a cop and abusing NW.
I want every mother on that jury to weigh the testimony of Sybrina Fulton and Gladys Zimmerman very carefully, before they reach their final decision. Whose testimony was credible, truthful, in light of all the evidence, especially Dr. Rao & Dr. Bao’s testimony.
I want these women to feel what it’s like to hear 2 women say a screaming voice is the voice of their son, when it can only be the voice of the one who was silenced by a gunshot to the heart.
SPEAK, AMETIA!
@Ametia.
The first time I heard that recording, that is what convinced me that it had to be Trayvon. Also, the jury is hearing “I’m begging you” and GZ not once said he shouted that.
Who in their right mind would think anyone carrying a loaded 9mm gun without safety on would BEG & SCREAM for their life?
Geroge Zimmerman was brimming over with POWER. He couldn’t control that false sense of POWER. He wasn’t going to let Trayvon get away with being BLACK in that neighborhood. Not the night of Februay 26, 2012.
Ametia, GZ can’t seem to comprehend that, which is why we know he killed Trayvon Martin, stole Trayvon’s scream, and then planted his own words in Trayvon’s mouth. Guilty, guilty, guilty!
Granny, it goes to show just how evil GZ really is. He’s a danger to society and no one is safe with him running loose on the streets.
Yep, Gladys Zimmerman sit yo azz down and quit lying.
Court is in recess until Monday 9am.
I couldn’t sit in that court room, because they could never restrain me from opening up a can of whoop ass on these mofos.
You’d have to wait your turn, if I happen to be in the court room with you.
Fin Gomez: Juror B29 nods her head when Zimmerman uncle talks abt his army service + his “ethics and professionalism” as a law enforcement officer.
Talking and being are entirely two different concepts here. Uncle Jorge just proved he’s a PROFESSIONAL LIAR. So that cancels out any ethics. We all know the SPD is corrupt.
The Uncle another lying member of the Zimmerman family.
LY-ING runs in that family. Damn shame, these mofos aren’t smart enough to realize that anyone carrying a loaded 9mm gun would be the last person screaming for help.
Be back later.
The whole family is scum. They’re all stealing a child’s last screams.
Next witness
Jorge Meza. George Zimmerman’s uncle
Jorge Meza: “it was George screaming for help.”
Uncle Jorge’s a DIRTY, FILTHY, LIAR
FILTHY LYING LIAR!
Is that the father of the cousin that George molested?
Justice for Trayvon is around the corner.
Next witness up
Gladys Zimmerman
Gladys Zimmerman need to stop the bs. Stop it right now!
Gladys Zimmerman is cold-hearted bitch. She’s a mother and she’s lying and STEALING a deal child’s very last dying breath. I can’t, I.JUST.CAN’T!
Why didn’t Papa Zimmerman take the stand and claim that it was George screaming that night?
Oh yeah he claimed during the second bond hearing that it sounded like George…when he was a teenager!!
It’s a shame that the State didn’t call Papa Zimmerman as a hostile witness, allow him to lie then play back his testimony.
I thought Papa Zimmerman was to testify too.
If Papa Zim takes the witness stand, prosecutors are likely to play his interview where he told investigators to “make all this end” while the investigation was ongoing.
Xena, don’t you have the video?
@SG2. Here ’tis.
http://youtu.be/THDpmMeX1iI&rel=0
Thank you, Xena!
Uploading one about Don West in a few minutes. :-)
Good deal! Looking forward to it.
Judge Nelson: The motion for acquittal is DENIED!
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One word…..one meaning……..you lose Fogen…..
Shut up, O’Mara! Your client said he had no regrets. It was God’s plan.
Oh my. He just goes on and on and on.
Running out the clock.
Defense motion for judgment of acquittal denied.
HOODIES UP!
Hoodies up!
Give it up, Mrak O. GZ is a lying MURDERER
It looks like JN wants to cry. Zimmerman, your lies have caught up with you.
Good afternoon ladies. I missed most of the trial this morning. How are the prosecutors doing?
OOH! State is calling out GZ’s LIES. Going on national tv and flat out lies. *HANNITY*
Yipee! Get him Mantai! Expose his lies.
Hey Granny!
Mantei is kicking a hole in GZ lying behind.
Ill-will = would do nothing differently. It was “God’s plan.”
Mantei is bringing it!
Mantei got the job done! Prosecutors are going to tear up defense witnesses on cross.
Hi Granny. ASA Mantei is now arguing against the defense’s motion for judgment of acquittal or reduction of charge.
Hi Xena, Armetia, and Rikyrah.
Hi, SG2. Glad to be here.
I’m so glad to see you.
“There are two people involved here. One is dead and the other is a liar.” ASA Mantei
BAM!
That was as we say in the real world “PriceleSS”
Mantei: Zimmerman thought he knew Martin as one of those “f—ing punks” or “a–holes” that get away.
Mantei: George Zimmerman wrote in the first sentence of a Why I Want to be in Law Enforcement assignment: To hunt Fugitives, so they don’t get away.
Mantei: Trayvon Martin had as much of a right to defend himself as zimmerman had.
YES! Trayvon Martin had just as much right to defend himself from that monster Zimmerman.
Mantei: George Zimmerman lied to Sean Hannity when he stated he didn’t know about SYG law.
GZ is a Depraved sociopath, who wanted to take an UNARMED Trayvon down, and he did.
STALKED
HUNTED
MURDERED
Oh dear God…Make it stop! O’Mara stfu already!
O’Mara tried to fashion his defense after this BULLSHIT he’s spewing now. Just eating up the clock.
Exactly!
The evidence says other wise. GZ is a cold-blooded murderer and he’s GOING DOWN.
I’m at a loss to figure what the defense might actually be. All of the witnesses have been called and cross-examined and the pictures of Zimmerman’s head have been presented. Unless they call Zimmerman to blubber all over himself about how sorry he is that this had to happen, then I’m not sure what’s left.
Oh please put that LYING POS on the stand. He will be ripped apart with all the LYING he continues to do.
Zimmerman is both arrogant enough and dumb enough to do it. His lawyers would probably advise him not to do it, but who knows?
I rolled on the floor when he said “……this could be a textbook case……..well it’s not a textbook case….but………”
All I can say is
Jesus Y Maria! O’MumboJumbo is now doing his best to drag things out so defense won’t have to start their case until Monday. I wish the Judge would make them all report back tomorrow for the sake of the sequestered jury..
O’Mumbo, please put a sock in it!
Exactly AG. Teh defense is not prepared
Natalie Jackson @NatJackEsq
If a 17 year old is screaming for his life and you still pull the trigger that is indicative of ILL-WILL, SPITE & HATE!!
Natalie Jackson @NatJackEsq
Pressing a 17 year old face-down into the grass when you have just shot him through the heart is indicative of SPITE, ILL-WILL & HATE.
There will be NO AQUITTAL, Mark O’Mara. Sit your ass down!
Defense is now asking for judgment of acquittal.
Mark O’Mara: Court must decide “whether or not there is any direct evidence” of elements of 2nd degree murder.
That’s general procedure, but judges are not likely to grant judgment for acquittal in a jury trial. I’m listening to O’Mara now, and his argument does not “flow.”
Funny. O’Mara argued previously in the media that he was not having a pre-trial immunity hearing because Zimmerman wanted the case decided by a jury. Now, he wants to circumvent the jury and convert the proceeding to a “bench trial” for the judge to decide.
O’Mara is totally ignoring the witness and going with what GZ said. Put that fat fuck on the stand then. Just RAMBLING on and on…
Defense is running the clock so they can have two more days to actually prepare a case instead of quacking to the media!
The State has rested their case in the Zimmerman trial.
The state rests its case.
Did I hear O’Mara say they are asking for an aquittal? GTFOH
Court’s back in session..
Prosecutors say they are introducing two pieces of evidence and then they will rest their case.
I can’t, I just can’t listen to this man make a case for an aquittal of self defense.
My blood is boiling!
Notice that O’Mara bases his argument on “my client.” He wants to reduce the testimonies of all witnesses and have Judge Nelson reach a decision based on “George Zimmerman said.”
Joy Reid @TheReidReport : Sidebar: Jahvaris Fulton’s red tie is from 5000 Role Models, a mentoring program for young black men founded by Rep. Frederica Wilson.
Court is in recess for 10 minutes..
Fin Gomez: Bao excused. Asst State Attorney Bernie De La Rionda asks for break. Jury smiles at him.
https://twitter.com/SybrinaFulton/status/353184315850502144/photo/1
Trayvon’s teh splitting image of Sybrina.
He sure is.
Bernie de la Rionda on re-direct.
Local 10 Zimmerman: Trayvon Martin’s mom is turning away from the picture of her son’s body.
Stephanie Wash : Juror e40 looks at autopsy photo with pencil to mouth. Juror e54 has hand over chin & mouth. Sybrina does not look at photos. Tracy does.
Dr. Bao: in a “real” self defense case 3 wks ago, a person with the same gunshot wound to the heart lived 10 minutes.
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“REAL” being the operative word here.
Indeed!
Dr. Shiping Bao –the assistant medical examiner who performed Trayvon Martin’s autopsy
I’m back. What’s happening?
April @ReignOfApril3m
Dr. Bao has consulted his notes. “No, sir. I am completely devoid of f*cks. My notes reflect that I have none to give.” #BaoDown
BWA HA HA
@elonjames
When the Judge told Dr. Bao to wait for the question to be finished before answering, this Negro said “But the question was wrong.” #BaoDown
LOL!
Court is back in session..
Attorneys discussing Dr. Bao’s testimony and notes.
Yamiche Alcindor : Dr. Bao does not look very pleased as he waits to testify.
Fin Gomez: After sidebar is over his notes are over, Bao raises his hands He looks to judge.Can I have my notes? Judge looks around asks for his notes.
LOL Give me my mofo notes!
Tony Pipitone : Jury out of room for inquiry. Opinon has changed of life after shot from 1-3 minutes to 1-10 minutes since November depo.
Dr. Bao says he changed his opinion about how long Trayvon lived after shot because he handled a similar case about three weeks ago.
Judge Nelson: No RICHARDSON violation.
Judge is refusing to allow defense to ask questions about level of marijuana in Trayvon Martin’s system in presence of jury.
Tony Pipitone: Judge continues to bar any mention of Trayvon Martin drug use, finding Bao’s opinion does not persuade her to change prior ruling.
Dr. Bao: “it’s my job to not miss anything”.
Tony Pipitone: Don West treading carefully on toxicology issues, since judge has barred results showing low levels of THC. Objections lead to bench conf.
Don West is filibustering!
Dr. Bao says he didn’t take photo of palms of Trayvon because he didn’t see any injury or disease.
West, just go away already. No DNA was found under Trayvon’s fingernails.
Dr Bao: I never mentioned height b/c dead man cannot stand. Dr Bao is not allowing West to get away with ISH. lol
Tony Pipitone: Bao: While loose contact muzzle-to-hoodie is clear, wound to skin “is not a contact … would be very, very different.”
BAM!
Exactly! Now way in HELL Trayvon sat up and yelled “You got me.” Zimmerman’s a LIAR
Zimmerman trial judge is no-nonsense
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/04/debra-nelson-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-judge-sanford/2487621/
Debra Nelson has made a name for herself in Florida as a tough-on-defendants judge. Now her legal bearing is at the heart of one of the nation’s most sensitive murder trials.
SANFORD, Fla.– When a 39-year-old woman snatched a baby from a Florida hospital in 2008, Circuit Judge Debra Nelson wasn’t swayed by the fact that the child was missing for only about an hour. She sentenced the kidnapper to 30 years in prison.
Dr. Rao & Dr. Bao, don’t mess with’em!
Damn right!
@MichaelSkolnik
As they were reviewing them, Mark O’Mara was laughing at something he was reading and Dr. Bao says “Is there something funny there?” #Tense
What an ASSCLOWN. The defense is trying to intimidate Dr. Bao, and he’s not having it.
I hope their laughter doesn’t mean that they think they’ve found something that they can use to make the case go their way.
I wouldn’t put it pass them. They’re beyond stupid.
Court is in recess until 1:00pm
#BaoDown LOL
Keith Boykin @keithboykin25s
Dr. Bao and Don West are ready to fight.
Dr. Bao was not having any of West’s bullshit. He was ready to do some Kung FU fighting. LOL
Dr. Bao to Don West
[wpvideo 8sbaSVvr]
BWA HA HA HA Perfect! I sure do miss you, Bernie.
God rest his soul.
I miss him so much. RIP Bernie Mac.
Trayvon Martin SUFFERED for about 10 minutes before he died, and no one came to help him.
You can’t change that fact, Don West!
Forgive me, I just can’t listen to that evil scumsucker West question Dr Bao. West is such a nasty racist goatfigger. It is interesting how defense usually has him do the questioning of most of the POC except for the Martin family where he could not have helped completely turning off the jury with his contempt for a grieving mother & brother.
My heart is with Ms Fulton & Trayvon’s brother for their ordeal. Bless Mr Martin for standing today to bear witness to Dr Bao’s testimony despite the pain he is enduring. JUSTICE FOR TRAYVON!!!
Hi AG. Yes; I noticed taht West gets to question PEOPLES OF COLOR. Sybrina would have really had him CHECK himself. Can’t have that!
Dr. Bao is spelling out certain words, so the stenographer gets it RIGHT.
I ♥ Dr Bao. I think he wants more than anything to tell it all.
Yes; and bank it, that the PERSONAL NOTES he handed West spell out his OPINIONS about the murder too.
S.O.O.T….. Got that court reporter?
I think you’re right, AG. For Don West, there is more to this than the fame and the book deal and all of the money he hopes to make. He has pure, unadulterated hatred and contempt for the the victim, his friends, and his family.
Dr. Bao performed the AUTOPSY, Don West. He doesn’t need to be briefed. He performs the autopsy and presents his report.
Don West is on cross.
Trying to intimidate and twist Bao’s words. He doesn’t want Dr. Bao to read what’s written.
Don West can’t bum rush this witness.
BWA HA HA HA West is not getting the answers he wants to help the murderer!
I can’t listen but I don’t think West can. I believe that Dr Bao really wants people to understand that Trayvon suffered in the minutes before he died. I think Dr bao would not only like to give the ‘facts’ but also his ‘opinions’ about the last moments of Trayvon’s life.
Top Conservative Cat : “Your honor, the Defense moves to strike Dr. Bao’s testimony on the grounds that he won’t let us put words in his mouth.”
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Dr. Bao to West: You can’t ask me questions that I do not know!
Dr. Bao has personal notes and he wants them back! LOL Don West can’t handle this man.
Court is back in session.
Court is in recess for 10 minutes.
A child uttered the most bone chilling shriek from the darkness & no one came to help him. It’s the saddest thing on the face of the earth.
Folks were to busy trying to cover up for Zimmerman.
it stabs in the heart.
I could not be in that courtroom. it would drive me over the edge, if I were Ms. Fulton or Mr. Martin
@Rikyrah. Dr. Bao performed the autopsy, and he said Trayvon was alive for approx 10 minutes. He suffered. It just blows my mind. *TEARS*
While Trayvon was lying down in the most excruciating pain, George Zimmerman was on the phone and neighbors were taking photos of him & asking what kind of gun was used to shoot the kid.
Good afternoon everyone. I’m trying to catch up and just read the comment that Trayvon could have lived 10 minutes after he was shot. I wonder if the ME considered that because of CPR that was given to Trayvon that might have given the impression that his lungs were operating?
@SG2. Yes; Zimmerman was on the phone bragging about his trophy killing of an innocent boy.
Sounds like living in R@TL is like a segment of the Twilight Zone.
Dr. Bao says it’s against protocol to put wet clothes in plastic bag.
LOL Dr. Bao said if anyone were caught putting wet clothes in a plastic bag, they’d be gone immediately. (paraphrasing here)
Zimmerman said Trayvon was cursing after he shot him. This liar is being exposed to the world.
Will the state bring that audio/video again of Zimmerman saying Trayvon spoke to him after he shot Trayvon in the heart?
Dr. Bao: The bullet went straight to the back to the pericardial sac the right posterior ventricle of the heart. Trayvon was alive 1-2 minutes after he was shot
Kelli Cook :Tracey Martin visibly emotional, taking deep breaths, as medical examiner goes over autopsy report
GZ said Trayvon sat up and said “You got me.” BULLSHIT!
Bullet was a straight shot.
STRAIGHT INTO TRAYVON’S HEART…
Ametia, it was Trayvon was alive 1-10 minutes.
Tahnks for the correction; I thought I heard 2 minutes. I guess 10 minutes was a long time to hear how Trayvon suffered. *TEARS*
Dr. Bao says muzzle had loose contact with clothing.
Dr. Bao: TM could not move after shot!
Didn’t Zimmerman say Trayvon cursed him and said ‘You got me’? SMGDH What a murdering LIAR!
Yes!
A Tale of Two Best Friends
Aura Bogado on July 3, 2013 – 11:45 AM ET
The media berated Rachel Jeantel last week throughout her testimony during George Zimmerman’s trial for the murder of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. So much so that other media took to defending Jeantel—who spent much of her day on the phone with Martin, whom she had first met in second grade, the day he was killed. That kind vitriol and subsequent support were absent, however, during yesterday’s testimony, when Zimmerman’s best friend, Mark Osterman, took the stand. That distinction speaks to the way that race remains a central theme in this murder
trial.[….]
No one denies that Jeantel does, in fact, have a drawl—one that could easily be confused with Paula Deen’s or even Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour’s drawls, which never drew public condemnation. In fact, in the mouths of white people, those southern accents are charming, and can even help fuel careers. Zimmerman defense attorney Don West (whose daughter, let’s not forget, posted a despicable photo on Instagram) repeatedly questioned Jeantel’s literacy on the stand. Despite the fact that Jeantel is trilingual, the court and the public—which is largely, and sadly, monolingual—displayed an obsession with determining the degree to which Jeantel can read cursive. Jeantel is indeed literate—but the question has nothing to do with her credibility as a witness in the first place. The attacks against Jeantel reflect an almost subconscious appetite for black destruction.
Meanwhile Mark Osterman, who described George Zimmerman as “the best friend [he] ever had,” was never questioned about his literacy. Perhaps that’s because he penned a book with his wife, titled Defending our Friend; the Most Hated Man in America. Yet the court and the public didn’t question the fact that Osterman essentially published and marketed a book based on the killing of a child. Osterman, too, had an attitude—he entered the courtroom with a snarky smirk, and possibly flirted with the all-woman jury by claiming that he doesn’t “like to curse in front of ladies.” Osterman’s sworn statements were at times bizarre—testifying, for example, that “anybody who is a non-convicted felon should carry a firearm,” and adding that “the police aren’t always there.”
Because the court—and the public—is not preoccupied with dissecting Osterman’s statements the way they were with tearing apart Jeantel’s, they took his testimony to mean that anyone who is not a convicted felon should carry a firearm. But, in fact, Osterman actually said that any felon should carry a gun, if they have not been convicted. Osterman, a white man who apparently profited from the killing of a child through his book, was granted understanding and latitude that Jeantel, a black woman, was not.
[….] One courtroom and one public have treated Martin and Zimmerman’s friends quite differently. And while the trial is clearly about the killing of Trayvon Martin, it is also profoundly about race, and about the way the public affords some privileges to some people, at the cost of detriment to others.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/175097/tale-two-best-friends#axzz2YBMCJaPX
THIS: “Osterman, a white man who apparently profited from the killing of a child through his book, was granted understanding and latitude that Jeantel, a black woman, was not.”
so defense is objecting to the autopsy results showing that Trayvon was in pain and suffered.
Oh dear God. Trayvon was suffering and feeling pain.
Fin Gomez: B29 sighs when they show nude body of #TrayvonMartin. She then looks over to Martin’s father’s area.She is having a tough time. Looks sad.
Hearing how Trayvon died is gut-wrenching. I don’t know how Tracy can sit there and listen to how his son was gunned down and murdered in COLD BLOOD.
No injuries on Trayvon’s right hand. Trayvon was right-handed. 2 small abrasions on his left hand.
Next witness up
Dr. Shiping Bao. Seminole/Volusia county Medical Examiner.
I don’t hear the court reporter claiming she doesn’t understand this witness.
Neither do I. I guess Asians are ok with the reporter, Rachel, on the other hand, she had problems.
Dr. Shiping Bao performed autopsy on Trayvon Martin
The gunshot was indicative of a homicide. Trayvon was murdered.
Dr. Shiping Bao: we did autopsy not knowing who the victim was. All we knew was a “black boy was shot.”
Despicable! Didn’t it take the SPD 3 days to notify the Martins of Trayvon’s body?
Tracy identified Trayvon the following morning. But, IIRC, it took them 3 days to release Trayvon’s body to the funeral home.
Dr. Shiping Bao says TrayvoMartin was still in alive, still in pain & still suffering moments after he was shot. The bullet went into his heart & lung.
Trayvon Martin was 5’11”, 158 lbs
This testimony is heart-rending. Keep putting out the stats, SG2. We know Trayvon was a human being who had feelings.
Fin Gomez: When Bao says he was identified by his father, Tracy Martin looks,sniffs, starts crying, wipes away tears.
Teh SPD didn’t even try to ID Trayvon’s body. He was just another dead nigga to them. It’s HORRIFYING the callousness and sociopathic nature of the SPD. They tried to cover up GZ murdering Trayvon, but it DID NOT WORK.
God shined the light and exposed their wickedness!
Tony Pipitone: This is going to get graphic. @SybrinaFulton and @jahvaris_martin outside; @BTraymartin9 still here.
Bao is spelling out words for the reporter, so she doesn’t have a reason to misquote him.
SOOT. S.O.O.T.
Tony Pipitone: All jurors look at projection of body, some brief glance, some long stares.
Dr. Shiping Bao shows autopsy photos of Trayvon Martin’s body, gunshot wound, and his clothes.
Dr. Bao says bullet fragments from that single slug found scattered inside Trayvon’s body.
Why do they have Sybrina just sitting there?
That’s it? One qusestion about a button Trayvon wore?
Maybe because both were standing at the time of the shot & Z pushed the button out of the way before he fired? All the rest was just Z staging a fake fight?
Bernie asked if she recognized the button Trayvon was wearing.
I can’t stand to look at Zimmerman. I get extremely NAUSEATED.
Me too. I wish the camera wouldn’t be focused on him. He is sickening to look at.
Sybrina Fulton is being recalled by the State.
What are they doing now? Sybrina’s just sitting there.
Yamiche Alcindor: Lawyers are again at the bench discussing. Fulton will likely testify about evidence that was earlier locked in evidence room.
Thanks! Tin foil hat comes off. Bring in the evidence, baby!
John Guy is recalling Sybrina back to the stand.
Guy is questioning Jahvaris
Court is back in session
What does this line of questioning by O’Mara have to do with GZ murdering Travon, PRAY TELL?
O’Mara is scum. Bringing up Alicia.
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SMACK!
So O’Mara’s trying to paint the Martins as a divisive family by throwing Alicia in the mix. Like a child from divorced black families deserve to be gunned down by that psychopath, GZ?
Shameful.
George Zimmerman Trial – Day 9 – Part 1 (Sybrina Fulton)
You Thanks!
Here’s Sybrina’s testimony, Everyone!
Sybrina’s testimony was extremely POWERFUL here. No theatrics, genuine, thorough, and credible. Lord keep her in your tender mercies.
Court is on a short recess
SG2; Sybrina’s testimony was short. What did O’Mara ask her, other than who’s voice was on the call?
Fin Gomez: We are in recess until locksmith + workers can fix evidence locker door. They are using drill now to open it in courtroom.
Fix evidence locker door? Waht’s up with that?
That’s what I’m wondering….
Tin foil hat’s on, until someone spills the 411 on why locksmiths are needed to fix the evidence locker door.
Next witness up
Jahvaris Fulton
Oh sweet Jesus. *tears*
State: “do you recognize any voices on that tape?” Jahvaria Fulton: “my brother.”
Jahvaris: didn’t want to believe it was Trayvon screaming.
I can imagine this was a NIGHTMARE to hear screaming, gunshots, silence, knowing Trayvon was already dead. Who’d want to believe their son, brother was murdered?
Who can bear something so horrific?
Amanda Ober: Juror E 40 staring at O’Mara as he questions Sybrina. Juror has pained look on her face.
I’m just getting to work. I missed Sybrina’s testimony. DAMN!
SG2; if you get a clip of Sybrina’s testimony, will you post ASAP, PLEASE? Thank you!
I sure will.
Stop badgering Jahvaris! O’Mara is lower than dirt. He defending a murderer and knows damn well it isn’t that child killer screaming.
Jahvaris did a good job. He’s a good brother and son. Good luck with your studies at university. Sabrina did a good job.
Tony Pipitone: So far everything read back in court is consistent with the TV interview. Nothing to impeach yet.
Mark O’Mara on cross
Sybrina Fulton : “What I hope for is this would have never happened and he would still be here. That’s what I hope.”
Next witness up
Sybrina Fulton
Lifting you up in prayer, Sybrina!
Sybrina: “Trayvon is in heaven”.
*tears*
Trayvon had tattoo of praying hands of grandmother.
My youngest son has a tattoo of an Angel with a halo and his grandmother’s name underneath.
Bernie de la Rionda now playing 911 call that recorded screams and calls. Sybrina identified Trayvon as the voice screaming on the tape.
Mark O’Mara: You hoped that was your son screaming.
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SMACK
Hoped?!!! Where’s the graphic, SG2? You know which one I’m talking about too!
@SG2. LOL That’s the graphic!
Definitely lifting Ms. Fulton up in prayer.
Court is in session
What is GZ looking at Angela Corey for?
He knows she’s going to put his ass in prison.
WOW! That’s a picture that speaks a thousand words. Zimmerman looks like cornered mouse.
For real!
Sending prayers to Sybrina & Tracy.
Hoodie Up!
JUSTICE4TRAYVON
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Good Morning, Xena. HOODIES UP!
Good morning, everyone! We’re ready to rock & roll.