#MichaelBrown shooting scene: ‘He held that boy and fired out of the car. He held his arm and fired’.

Michael Brown shooting scene. Witnesses describing what they saw.

Michael Brown shooting scene witness ‘The first shot, he fired out of the car’

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25 Responses to #MichaelBrown shooting scene: ‘He held that boy and fired out of the car. He held his arm and fired’.

    • Liza says:

      The kid was executed, shot three times in the head. And for what? Because Darren Wilson felt disrespected?

      All of this to save a cop who isn’t worth saving. They know it. What they are trying to save there in Ferguson is their way of life, trying to keep the black folks poor and powerless and afraid of cops.

      I loathe those people. They live in a time warp and they have no humanity.

  1. Liza says:

    Recipe for Obstruction of Justice for Protecting Killer Cops from Prosecution:

    1. Create a fictitious narrative where the cop had no choice but to kill the victim
    2. Identify sympathetic “experts” who will interpret some of the known facts in favor of the fictitious narrative.
    3. Identify sympathetic and “respectable” news outlets that will leak “new information” on behalf of the killer cop being protected from prosecution.
    4. Selectively leak “new information” from “anonymous government officials” and/or case documents in conjunction with all of the “experts” interpretations and conclusions.
    5. Spread the rumor that information is being leaked to prepare people for why there is not going to be an indictment.

    • Liza says:

      OMG. And she’s the so-called expert the right wing gasbags are talking about. She’s working her own agenda, to be sure. God help us.

  2. Liza says:

    From Leatherman’s blog:

    Who is selectively leaking information to help Officer Darren Wilson
    October 22, 2014

    Wednesday, October 22, 2014

    Good morning:

    We are witnessing a massive coordinated effort by unnamed officials to unlawfully influence public opinion and the members of a grand jury regarding the Michael Brown shooting by selectively leaking and spinning information in the police investigation file. The purpose of this massive propaganda effort is to discredit eyewitness accounts of the shooting, persuade the public that Officer Darren Wilson shot and killed Michael Brown in self-defense and condition the public to accept a decision by the grand jury next month to not charge the officer with a crime.

    The St.Louis Post Dispatch reported today,

    The official autopsy on Michael Brown shows that he was shot in the hand at close range, according to an analysis of the findings by two experts not involved directly in the case.

    The accompanying toxicology report shows he had been using marijuana.

    /snip/

    A source with knowledge of Wilson’s statements said the officer had told investigators that Brown had struggled for Wilson’s pistol inside a police SUV and that Wilson had fired the gun twice, hitting Brown once in the hand. Later, Wilson fired additional shots that killed Brown and ignited a national controversy.

    Now comes the spin.

    Dr. Judy Melinek, a forensic pathologist in San Francisco, said the autopsy “supports the fact that this guy is reaching for the gun, if he has gunpowder particulate material in the wound.” She added, “If he has his hand near the gun when it goes off, he’s going for the officer’s gun.”

    Sources told the Post-Dispatch that Brown’s blood had been found on Wilson’s gun.

    Melinek also said the autopsy did not support witnesses who have claimed Brown was shot while running away from Wilson, or with his hands up.

    She said Brown was facing Wilson when Brown took a shot to the forehead, two shots to the chest and a shot to the upper right arm. The wound to the top of Brown’s head would indicate he was falling forward or in a lunging position toward the shooter; the shot was instantly fatal.

    A sixth shot that hit the forearm traveled from the back of the arm to the inner arm, which means Brown’s palms could not have been facing Wilson, as some witnesses have said, Melinek said. That trajectory shows Brown probably was not taking a standard surrender position with arms above the shoulders and palms out when he was hit, she said.

    Let’s take it one step at a time.

    1) [T]he autopsy “supports the fact that this guy is reaching for the gun, if he has gunpowder particulate material in the wound.” She added, “If he has his hand near the gun when it goes off, he’s going for the officer’s gun.”

    Dorian Johnson said the officer backed up suddenly, blocking their way. The vehicle was so close that the door hit them when he opened it and attempted to get out. Mike pushed the door back and the officer reached through the open window, grabbed his arm and started pulling him. Mike resisted attempting to get away but the gun came out, a struggle ensued and a shot was fired inside the vehicle wounding him. Johnson saw blood on his arm. They turned and ran.

    “If he has his hand near the gun when it goes off, he’s going for the officer’s gun.”

    This is an overbroad, unprofessional and irresponsible conclusion to draw from merely reviewing an autopsy report and I do not believe any responsible and qualified pathologist would make such a statement. She cannot divine his intent from the autopsy report or recreate exactly what happened. The most that any responsible pathologist can say is that the injury as described in the report is consistent with or inconsistent with Dorian Johnson’s description of what happened.

    Even if what he said is not true, and I believe it is, his statement is consistent with the injury described in the report.

    Wilson is right handed and wears his gun in a holster against his right hip. I doubt Brown could have reached across Wilson’s body and seized the gun. Instead, I believe it’s more likely that Wilson grabbed the gun with his free hand as he held on to Brown and Brown struggled to avoid being shot and get away.

    2) “She said Brown was facing Wilson when Brown took a shot to the forehead, two shots to the chest and a shot to the upper right arm. The wound to the top of Brown’s head would indicate he was falling forward or in a lunging position toward the shooter; the shot was instantly fatal.”

    We know that Brown was at least 95 feet from Wilson’s vehicle when he was hit with the fatal shot and not 35 feet as claimed by the Ferguson police chief. ‘Lunge’ implies they were close together when Wilson fired the fatal shot, but none of the eyewitnesses, who, by the way did not know Brown or each other, said they were close together or that Brown was bull-rushing Wilson or that Wilson appeared to be in imminent danger of being killed or suffering a serious injury. No, they described an execution and two of them were white guys from another neighborhood. None of the witnesses had any motive to lie and every one of them was traumatized by what they saw.

    ‘Falling forward’ is a better choice of words.

    Note that Dr. Michael Baden and Dr. Shawn Parcells, who performed the autopsy for Brown’s family, were unwilling to speculate on this point and their credentials are considerably more impressive than Dr. Melinek’s.

    3) ” A sixth shot that hit the forearm traveled from the back of the arm to the inner arm, which means Brown’s palms could not have been facing Wilson, as some witnesses have said, Melinek said. That trajectory shows Brown probably was not taking a standard surrender position with arms above the shoulders and palms out when he was hit, she said.”

    So, what? That does not mean his hands were not up before he was shot. Again, Dr. Baden and Dr. Parcells refused to speculate about what was happening or the order in which events occurred. Dr. Parcells warned that one cannot specifically say in what order the shots were fired or what Brown was doing when he received the shot to the arm because the shoulder, elbow and wrist joints permit considerable movement. One possibility he mentioned was that it might be a defensive wound to ward off a shot to the head, but he added, he could not be certain.

    CONCLUSION

    Some person or persons unknown is attempting to persuade the public and probably the grand jury not to indict Darren Wilson for murder by selectively leaking information and spinning it. This is criminal activity.

    This article in the St.Louis Post Dispatch spin doctors the official autopsy report (that was not provided to Dr. Baden or Dr. Parcells) and a portion of Darren Wilson’s statement, which he initially refused to provide and now appears to have been molded to fit the known facts) to convince the public that Darren Wilson killed Michael Brown in self-defense, notwithstanding what all of the eyewitnesses said.

    But it’s not limited to the St.Louis Dispatch.

    http://frederickleatherman.com/2014/10/22/who-is-selectively-leaking-information-to-help-officer-darren-wilson/

  3. Liza says:

    This is another case of the right wing corporate mainstream media being used to manipulate the public into supporting the killer cop to insure there is no arrest, no indictment, and no trial.

    This leak strategy has me raging mad. People deserve to know the whole truth, as best as it can be reconstructed and that includes the timeline, every piece of physical evidence, and every WORD OF EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY.

    F*** these people. The DOJ needs to send a high ranking person from the Civil Rights Division to clear up this mess. Whose leak strategy is this? Why is the NYT playing the role of useful idiot again? Because they are so good at it?

    We deserve better than this, the Brown family deserves better, and God knows anyone who is invested in stopping these 21st century lynchings deserves better.

    Damn, you don’t have to be a forensic analyst of some kind to know that this “leak” bullshyt is all kinds of wrong. Look what it did (on purpose) to Trayvon Martin’s case. A murderer walks the streets a free man because right wing corporate media had all kinds of time and opportunity to blame the victim for his own murder.

    F*** these people. They think all of us live in trailer parks and are as dumb as rocks. End rant.

    • eliihass says:

      As maddening as it is, I think we should trust that Eric Holder isn’t going to let this slide!!! They can leak whatever the heck the want to try to cover for Darren Wilson, but you’ve got to trust that this case will play out differently. Don’t let the leaks or brazen moves by the racist police and the Missouri justice system distract you. Let’s be patient and let this play out. This is Eric Holder’s last hurrah, and he’s coming for them. Trust!!!

      • Alright now! Thank you for this.

      • Liza says:

        Yeah, I’ve pinned all my hopes on the DOJ.

        These race killings especially those committed by cops are not going to get resolved at the state level. And they won’t go away by themselves. We have to force the tipping point and Ferguson is as good a place as any, we have a black POTUS and a black AG. The time has to be now.

      • eliihass says:

        “..These race killings especially those committed by cops are not going to get resolved at the state level. And they won’t go away by themselves.”

        You’re right Liza, and I can assure you that this fact is not lost on the President and Attorney General. I do believe they too see and feel what we feel. And Ferguson offers the opportunity to begin the process of thwarting the madness. I’m glad that the Ferguson community has stayed on it, kept it in the news and not shrugged it off. We all need to keep it front and center.

  4. Darren Wilson claimed Michael Brown punched and scratched him. Where is the report showing Wilson’s DNA under Brown’s fingernails?

    • eliihass says:

      No surprise there SouthernGirl. I think we all expected he’d lie!! We saw them putting together his narrative using information told by witnesses as they came forward. He’s a coward and a liar, but it’s all going to blow up in his face. He won’t get away with it, and the Ferguson Police Chief and a few others will lose their jobs by the time this is all over!!

      • Liza says:

        Well, my my my. Reminds me of Michael Dunn not telling his girlfriend that anyone in the vehicle that he riddled with bullets had a gun. Also reminds me of BART cop Johannes Mehserle running away and not telling ANYONE he confused his taser and his gun right after he murdered Oscar Grant.

        Ah, yes, these fictitious narratives are full of “recovered memories.”

        What person involved in a killing would forget to mention ANYTHING about a gun that might exonerate them? Answer: A guilty person who has not yet had an opportunity to invent his fictitious narrative.

      • eliihass says:

        Thanks for sharing this SouthernGirl.
        Part of the problem Darren Wilson and the corrupt Ferguson Police and ‘Justice’ system is having to contend with right now, is that they completely underestimated the black community in Ferguson!!
        They bought into their own stereotypes of black people as dumb, easily bamboozled and silenced!!! They can’t believe the push-back, and how smart and savvy and persistent, bold and unafraid ordinary black citizens in little old Ferguson have been.

        Let me tell you, it’s absolutely freaking them out!! They can’t stand it!!! They sure didn’t anticipate all this push-back from ordinary citizens, which is part of the reason they sloppily neglected to follow basic and routine procedure after they murdered this kid in cold blood. They didn’t even bother to file a report after killing a kid??!! That in itself is all we need to know about who we’re dealing with.

  5. Please tell me how can 6 eyewitnesses be discredited? People are convicted on the testimony of one eyewitness. Prisons are filled with them. Darren Wilson KNEW Michael Brown didn’t have a gun. Wilson shot Michael Brown from the police car & the kid RAN. How can he not be indicted?

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