Friday Open Thread | ‘Love on My Mind’ Week

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91 Responses to Friday Open Thread | ‘Love on My Mind’ Week

  1. rikyrah says:

    that is ridiculous.

    May you never get another good night’s sleep. May your child haunt your dreams every night.

    ……………………..

    https://twitter.com/TheAdvocateMag/status/746429129046687745?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  2. rikyrah says:

    Out of Luck?
    By JOSH MARSHALL
    Published JUNE 24, 2016, 5:19 PM EDT

    I hadn’t taken Obama’s statement that a post-EU UK would have to go ‘to the back of the line’ for trade negotiations that seriously. I’d seen it as more a nudge to ward off any expectation that trade relations with the US would be instantly restored on some crash course negotiation. But the possibility of the break-up of the UK itself (which seems like a very real possibility to me over the 4 to 5 year time horizon) hadn’t occurred to me as a drag on potential negotiations.

    Overall, I liked your post about Brexit. I will have to say though that I’m doubtful the US will make a deal with the UK outside the EU a priority.
    1) If Brexit makes it look like the UK may split apart within 5 years, the opportunity costs of negotiating with the UK just are high. USTR isn’t that large an office, so negotiations with the likes of EU states (TTIP) and China are probably going to take a higher priority when deciding how to use scarce resources. TPP will probably have to go back to the negotiating table somehow for another round of negotiations if it’s going to pass the next Congress. A temporary US-UK deal may not be worth the manpower. If anything, we’ll probably be more concerned about where to locate the UK’s nukes that are currently located in Scotland.
    2) My general impression from the people I know at USTR is that the failure of TPP (and also the Sanders and Trump campaigns) has left a lot of people there shellshocked. USTR needs a win for it to be taken seriously, but spending time on negotiating with a country that might not exist in 5 years would just look foolish.

    3) The next president also doesn’t want to intentionally annoy the major EU states. The next British PM is probably going to be weak until elections are held. Chances are Clinton (if she wins) will care more about our productive relationship with people like Merkel than some blowhard like Boris Johnson, who is just a bull in a china shop. The major remaining EU states together – Germany, France, Spain, Italy and Poland – matter to us more than the UK by itself. These EU states and the EU as a whole would be annoyed by the US playing nice with a country that just openly insulted Europe. If anything, the EU will want to increase the economic pain on the UK to create disincentives to leaving. That is why EU officials are talking already about fast-tracking the UK’s exit.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/out-of-luck

    • eliihass says:

      At some point, we need to stop taking the slanted, desperate-to-affect-outcomes, know-it-all, wishful thinking analysis of every agenda-driven Tom, Dick and Harry as pertinent or Gospel-truth…

      Try as we all may, all the skewed analysis …including attempts to control the debate…explain away outcomes by downplaying certain glaring aspects, and playing up the convenient bits they want or prefer… re-framing the reality of things and only to reach our preferred outcomes….including cherry-picking quotes of random ‘remorseful uninformed’ voters, don’t mean jack…

      When everyone tries to play God…when everyone wants desperately to control others…control narratives…to rule the minds of as many fellow human beings …but only so they go along with what the god-complex afflicted folks would rather… and not because of some high-minded, greater good or purpose..but rather, for ego, to be proven right…to hold on to power…to power play and to polish up staked positions and legacies…

      Brexit happens…and stuff and fallout like this …it’s only just getting started…

      Oh wow…look…the British economy shrunk today…they went from being the 5th largest economy, to being wait for it…the 6th largest economy …(oh heavens!)…following a certain vote that was bound to rattle the markets temporarily of course…

      The effort to scare folks …to bombard them with only one preferred point of view while consciously shutting down any other smart but contradictory perspective that doesn’t coincide with what they’re actively pushing and trying to force-feed the masses..

      Manipulation…desperate, brazen manipulation…

      Even more amusing is listening to so-called ‘experts’ who are as invested as the politicians they are close to and potentially stand to gain favors with…listening to these carefully handpicked ‘experts’ give as one of their arguments against Brexit…that Brits will have to now negotiate their own trade deals which was previously done by Brussels (the EU)…how tedious that work is, and just how would the U.K deal with having to now assume those ‘tedious’ roles and do their own negotiating and heavy-lifting…As if…

      How insulting that this presumes that the U.K is too lazy and incapable of doing their own work…

      Ultimately, the bottom line is that the powers that be are petrified and determined to maintain the status quo…and it’s all about their investments…money…power…control..

      They are ultimately determined to make sure that Brexit is messy, difficult …make sure common folks suffer so badly for it …just to make a point…teach them a lesson…etc…They’ve even said as much bold-faced and brazenly…

      They especially don’t want to give other disenchanted EU countries the idea that it’s easy to leave…and what better way than to artificially manipulate, complicate…undermine and sabotage as much as possible…the U.K’s departure …driving home the argument that if Great Britain couldn’t pull it off…how on earth would those other smaller countries…

      We’re at a place where sabotage is wielded easily and often to ultimately achieve a particular desired result and send strong messages…this even by supposedly high-minded, ‘moral’ leaders…

      They are especially petrified that Brexit will be a harbinger of things to come…that the same populist sentiments could propel Trump…not because he is loved or right, but precisely because he isn’t establishment-endorsed and backed and invested in like Hillary….that what drove the success of Brexit will ultimately drive Trump into the Oval office…And they are more interested in, invested in and united in saving Hillary’s political ambitions and their political, financial and power investments by extension …more than they are about addressing the larger issues and concerns at play here for the masses …issues they instead dismissively and glibly reduce to simply old white racists raging at changing societies … meanwhile Hillary is conveniently out of sight as usual…waiting for the dust to settle before testing out her expensive advisers prepared versions of aggregated results of poll-tested outcomes and statements..

      We can all take away what we want from all of this…but for goodness sake, let’s not take each other for fools…

      In the end, this is all being driven by politicians with their own various self-serving agenda primarily at heart…this has nothing to do with you, me, or the greater good…

      David Cameron and Boris Johnson are infinitely more alike and more connected and united in what guides and motivates them …they are both entitled Tories for goodness sake…Boris may be a blowhard, but so is David Cameron truth be told…momentarily playing pal of convenience with President Obama does not change that for a second…Boris is however, like it or not… one smart cookie…infinitely smarter than David Cameron…but David is a more rehearsed politician who has over time tried to sell a more ‘moderate’ Tory image …much in the same way George Bush tried to sell the laughable ‘compassionate conservative’ tripe…

      And just as I’ve often said and I’ll keep repeating…Trump = Hillary = Romney = any number of equally racist politicians and the operatives trotted out to tsk tsk at Trump’s supposed racism while arguing Armageddon…Hillary as the only choice…

      The truth is, they are all no different really…and in the end, it doesn’t really matter who sits in that Oval office or any seat of power for that matter…the real powers that be ultimately have their say…and their ways of manipulating and controlling outcomes and things…they’d just rather make things just that much easier and seamless for themselves by installing their preferred trained, well-rehearsed and beholden puppet to begin with…Trump would be ideal too if he weren’t just as megalomaniac as the owners…and way too unreliable when it comes to carrying out orders…

      In a time where so many erstwhile ‘honorable’ and formerly ‘credible’ folks preemptively sold out and took very dubious stands based on obvious arm-twisting and horse trading…and staked their integrity and moral high ground …and aligned with very faulty and very troublesome and disturbing pre-Trump on the horizon…pre-planned coronation shenanigans…

      Things look pretty, pretty bleak …and at this point, there are those so jaded, so cynical and so ground down…there have just about nothing left to lose…In a time where black kids are routinely murdered in cold blood by cops paid by our tax dollars to protect us…and a black judge paid by our tax dollars turns a blind eye to evil, and sides with murderers…just to keep his cushy position and comfy life going…and even with an abundance of evidence staring everyone in the face, somehow our black Attorney General can never seem to find enough evidence to do anything about anything after reluctantly opening up now predictable default ‘investigations’ and ‘reports’…but is quick to show up and make passionate statements of solidarity with every other demographic when evil visits…

      At this point Brexit is really the least of our problems…but for the powers that be, it only spells trouble for their well-laid plans …and they need to keep their firewalls…their useful idiots activated until November comes and goes…after November, firewalls and those who now pretend to marginally give a damn about them, will return to assured obscurity…and it’ll just be business as usual…they’ll just keep right on murdering our babies…and us…and letting the murderers get away with it …no more need for even the inconvenient farce of mock ‘trials’..

  3. rikyrah says:

    I’m loving this show

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    PREMIERE OF OWN’S NEW ORIGINAL DRAMA SERIES ‘GREENLEAF’ SHATTERS NETWORK’S RATINGS RECORDS
    JUNE 22, 2016
    TAMBAY OBENSON

    OWN: Oprah Winfrey Network shatters ratings records delivering its biggest series premiere in network history on Tuesday night (6/21/16). The series premiere of the network’s new original drama series “Greenleaf” (10 p.m.) from Lionsgate, delivered 3.043 million viewers and a 2.18 rating in W25-54, making it the #1 series debut in network history. Additionally, it was the #2 scripted cable debut in 2016 to date (behind “American Crime Story: The People Vs. O.J. Simpson”).

  4. rikyrah says:

    Any thoughts?

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    HBO RELEASES FIRST TEASER-TRAILER FOR ISSA RAE’S ‘INSECURE’
    JUNE 23, 2016
    TAMBAY OBENSON

    https://youtu.be/veqxnUWa1Hk

  5. rikyrah says:

    Uh huh
    Uh huh

    Criming while white: Frat bros ran massive campus drug dealing operation — right in plain sight
    24 JUN 2016 AT 16:07 ET

    A network of young, white, privileged people ran hundreds of thousands of dollars-worth of cocaine, pills and other substances through downtown Charleston’s roaring party scene in plain view, the Charleston Post and Courier revealed in an investigative report.

    The ring had been “hiding in plain sight” for years with wealthy young drug dealers — some of them fraternity members — profiting off the area’s booze and drug-filled college town culture. But the ring was sophisticated and large, with different dealers focusing on specific substances. In a raid executed in relation to a connected murder, police turned up $214,000 in cash.

    Samantha Hincks, 26; Daniel Katko, 25; Zackery Kligman, 24; Robert Liljeberg, 22; Benjamin Nauss, 23; Jake Poeschek, 21; Jonathan Reams, 19; Michael Schmidt, 21; and Christopher Sliker, 22, were all arrested as part of the drug ring, the Post and Courier reports.
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    The dealers operated steps away from the College of Charleston campus out of multi-million dollar homes, with students and former students packaging pills with a factory-grade press and ingredients bought online. They found drugs via a variety of online and street sources, then found thousands of buyers by way of the college’s downtown night life.

  6. rikyrah says:

    Comparing the buyer’s remorse BREXIT voters to those telling us that ‘ Trump really doesn’t mean what he says.’

    I will say it again…

    As a Black person in America longer than three days..

    I.DO.NOT.HAVE.THE.LUXURY.TO.NOT.TAKE.THE.MAN.AT.HIS.WORD.

    Folks kill me thinking that people mean something other than what they say. He doesn’t speak in dogwhistles. How can you even utter that he doesn’t mean what he says?

  7. rikyrah says:

    Britain allowed its populist right to rise. America should heed the warning
    Richard Wolffe

    …This is what happened to the British Tories as they struggled through two decades of a rising and rebellious anti-European faction. We’ve been watching the Republican party do the same with the emerging Tea Partiers and Trumpers over the same period

    In London, Conservative leaders tried to co-opt extremists instead of pushing their far-right Euro rebels to join the UK Independence Party. David Cameron’s pre-election promise to hold an EU referendum was a colossal miscalculation designed to appease his own extremists. That short-term tactic led his own country to economic crisis and ended his career.

    In Washington, congressional Republicans thought the Tea Party’s anti-establishment and anti-corporate spirit was fine to ignore as long they helped undermine President Obama.

    Instead of ejecting them to join a third party, they embraced them, including their conspiracy theories about the president’s birth and religion. Now, after alternately ignoring and ridiculing Trump, they are shocked that the leader of the birther conspiracy is their nominee. The GOP’s short-term appeasement has imperiled its own future.

  8. rikyrah says:

    RKelley’s 50 year old ex wife.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BG9zpUZPOuD/

  9. rikyrah says:

    From the previous thread, the person who was trying to ‘explain’ to us about the vote, and they wrote about the economic policies begun by Thatcher.

    Let’s get this straight:

    Thatcher Tories=Reagan Democrats

    Muthaphuckas that voted for the very people that caused their economic downturn. And, EVERYTIME, fall for the okeydoke and vote against their economic self-interest.

    ……………………………………….

    h/t: POU

    The most comprehensive explanation of Brexit I’ve read to date from a British citizen. Well done.

    OH MY GOD let’s get several things straight about Brexit

    1. This vote was NOT called because of dissatisfaction with the EU. This vote was called because Cameron thought he could shut up the internal squabbles in the Tory party by shoving a strong Remain result down the RW’s throat. He failed. He will be forever remembered as the PM who presided over both the breakdown of the EU and the breakdown of the UK. You wouldn’t think his political career could have had a lower moment than fucking a pig, but here we are.

    2. This result was NOT caused by dissatisfaction with “neoliberalism” whatever the hell THAT is supposed to mean in this context. All the austerity measures have come under the conservative government, and the complete decimation of UK manufacturing and blue collar jobs happened under Thatcherism (another Conservative). They very successfully blamed the EU for it with the help of the media.

    3. This result was NOT supported by the Left or anyone else interested in economic justice. This result was supported by xenophobes who were worked into a hysterical frenzy by the media constantly blaming the EU for every single thing that went wrong in the UK, and that has been going on since the EU’s inception.

    4. This result was STRONGLY OPPOSED by the young, (as most people have noticed) AND by the educated (as fewer people are talking about).

    5. If you are a progressive, there is no conscionable way to support this result. If you are concerned about the environment, human rights, and diversity, there is no conscionable way to support this result.

  10. rikyrah says:

    Ok, my laugh for the day: I am in the train station on my way home. I spot two men with 3 young girls. The men look tired. They call the older man Grandpa. He is holding their hands, while the Father has both hands full with American Girl shopping bags. The thought that these two men have spent the day at the American Girl store- I found that hilarious 😆😊😆

    • eliihass says:

      LOL..

      “…Be better…be a part of your family’s life. Do the dishes. Don’t babysit your children – You don’t ‘babysit’ your own children. Be engaged. Don’t just think going to work and coming home makes you a man. Being a father, being engaged, all that stuff is important…”

      FLOTUS to fathers…June 14, 2016.

  11. eliihass says:

    The pro and against Labour arguments re: Brexit..

  12. eliihass says:

    David Cameron v Boris Johnson (Both Eton-educated Tories on different sides of the Brexit debate.)

    “When historians get to write the truth about this completely unnecessary referendum they won’t say it was a vote demanded by the British people to decide their national destiny. They will say it was the final battle in a decades-long Tory Civil War, at the heart of which was a fight to the death between two Old Etonians, David Cameron and Boris Johnson, for the hollow crown. A sort of Eton Wall Game. Where the poorest are put up against the wall and shot.”

    • eliihass says:

      “The country voted with its heart, not its head.”

      “Remain had based its whole campaign on the assumption that elections are won or lost on the economy. It believed that if the electorate realised their jobs, security and prosperity were on the line then they would vote overwhelmingly to stay.

      But they sorely underestimated the emotional pull of sovereignty and misread completely the genuine sense of grievance in the country.

      The victims of globalisation took revenge on those who have benefited from it.”

  13. eliihass says:

    Oh what a difference a presidential election cycle makes…

    The usual suspects like Josh Barro and the whole lot of spiteful, hateful Clinton flunkies and surrogates who would have been jumping with glee and chomping at the bit to blame and chip away at President Obama ….up until late last year that is…before they realized that Hillary desperately needed President Obama…and that her fortunes were tied to the President’s…

    How oddly amusing to see and hear them all now…including many in the media…now trying their darndest and doing their delicate nifty dances …trying not to in any way blame or hurt the President…just so Hillary isn’t negatively impacted by extension …

    This has to be the only upside to these elections…those who formerly went out of their way to put down the President any chance they got…but who are now completely invested in and actively rooting for and working on Hillary’s campaign…And need the President to campaign for Hillary…are no longer bashing or blaming him where they previously would…And only because they desperately need the President unblemished …just for Hill…

    Wonders will never cease my friends..

  14. rikyrah says:

    PHUCK.OUTTA.HERE.

    UK Independence Party Leader Admits His Bold Brexit Claim Was a “Mistake”
    Nigel Farage backs away from the Leave campaign’s signature pledge to spend £350 million of European Union money on the National Health Service.

    INAE OHJUN. 24, 2016 9:29 AM

    As Britain awoke on Friday to the news that it had voted in favor of withdrawing from the European Union, voters were introduced to their new reality with a stunning admission from Nigel Farage, the pro-Brexit advocate who leads the U.K. Independence Party. Farage said that the Vote Leave campaign’s signature pledge—that leaving the European Union would allow for £350 million to be spent on the U.K.’s National Health Service—was a “mistake.”

    Farage’s mea culpa was made during an appearance on Good Morning Britain, where he was asked if he could continue supporting that promise after the campaign to extract the United Kingdom from the European Union had succeeded.

    “No I can’t, and I would have never made that claim,” Farage said. “It was one of the mistakes I think the ‘leave’ campaign made”

    • eliihass says:

      Once again American media mindfully distorting and selectively cherry-picking and pushing half-truths..

      Farage is UKIP…an extreme right-wing nut in an extreme right wing fringe party that has recently started making head way in Britain…I’ve been following BBC and other British media since last night …and Farage isn’t backing down or apologizing for anything..

      What the American media isn’t sharing, is the fact that this Brexit crossed party lines…That there are high-profile members of the Prime Minister’s own Tory party *and* Cabinet, who were staunchly for Brexit…and that shockingly – but no secret – that there were also members of the Labour party, that were also for Brexit …and they’ve been on t.v, expressing their delight that they won…And they have no regrets…

      The market is responding of course naturally…but even more so to the media hijinks surrounding all of this…and only further hype up by the media doing the bidding of their masters…and their own preferences that hinge on how it all affects them and their owners financially, politically etc..

      The media called it wrong, and as usual, they are trying to at least make the fall-out from it, just as they predicted…so they’ve stayed on it…sharing every imagining of every worst case scenario they can cook up or conceive…

      The manipulation never stops…and people who know, see through it…and see it all for what it really is…It’s less about the fate of the EU and Great Britain…and a lot about the bruised egos of politicians and the media themselves…God forbid they don’t get their way…or they are proved wrong ..ever..

      They will deliberately burn the house down just to be proven right again…

  15. rikyrah says:

    SG2,

    It’s about Old White People wanting their country back. The gap across generations was very telling. The young people who actually have to compete in present Britain voted to remain. While older (WHITE) folks who are almost on their way out the door, voted to leave.

    Now, we’re seeing stories about people who voted to leave who were like,’ but I didn’t really mean it.’

    I’m like, are you kidding me?

  16. rikyrah says:

    What the Supreme Court Did (and Didn’t Do) Today on Immigration
    “This is a clear reminder of the consequences of Republican obstruction of Obama’s current SCOTUS nominee.”

    by Nancy LeTourneau June 23, 2016 4:43 PM

    The Supreme Court issued a one sentence response today to President Obama’s Deferred Action for Parents of Americans (DAPA): “The judgment is affirmed by an equally divided Court.” That means that, because of a 4-4 tie, the injunction blocking the plan from taking effect stands. As the President pointed out today, it affirms the status quo.

    It is important to keep in mind that Obama’s previous action – Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA – was not contested and therefore continues to be in effect. Also still in place are the priorities this administration outlined for immigration enforcement.

    The above statement from the Court does not indicate a ruling about the Constitutionality of DAPA – that is still an open question to be addressed at a later date.

    As many are noting – including President Obama – this is a clear reminder of the consequences of Republican obstruction of his current SCOTUS nominee, Judge Merrick Garland. With nine Justices, we would have gotten a definitive ruling from the Court. The one thing I haven’t seen mentioned is that if Justice Scalia were still alive, there is no doubt that DAPA would have been struck down. We never had much trouble predicting where he would stand on issues.

  17. rikyrah says:

    Trump baffles with bizarre appearance in Scotland
    06/24/16 08:45 AM—UPDATED 06/24/16 10:20 AM
    By Steve Benen
    Earlier this month, Donald Trump was asked about the upcoming vote in the U.K. about leaving the European Union. The reporter asked, “And Brexit? Your position?” Trump replied, “Huh?”

    “Brexit,” the reporter repeated. “Hmm,” Trump responded, apparently unfamiliar with the term.

    With this exchange in mind, consider what the presumptive Republican presidential nominee said on Twitter this morning:
    “Just arrived in Scotland. Place is going wild over the vote. They took their country back, just like we will take America back. No games!”
    What Trump may not realize, or really even be able to fully understand, is that Scotland is “going wild” because Scottish voters overwhelmingly voted against leaving the E.U. Locally, people aren’t celebrating – because they see this as a disaster.

    Trump proceeded to hold a press conference in Scotland, against the backdrop of one of the most important political moments in the modern history of the United Kingdom, where he spoke at great length, and in great detail, about his new golf resort. The Republican candidate boasted about refurbished holes on his course, plumbing, putting greens, and zoning considerations.

    • eliihass says:

      This is what we have to be careful of…

      The deliberate distortions that seek to buffer a particular argument…

      I watched the press conference with Trump…and came away with something quite different…

      I really like Steve Benen…he’s one of my favorites…but this is not as it happened…

  18. On this day June 24, 1968, Ralph Abernathy leader of Poor People’s Campaign, near grounds of the US Capitol Building

    Ralph Abernathy (center facing, short sleeves), leader of the Poor People's Campaign, near the grounds of the US Capitol Building on June 24, 1968.

  19.  
    On this day June 24th 1968, Resurrection City closed. More than one hundred residents were arrested when they refused to leave site. Other residents, including Ralph Abernathy, were arrested during demonstration at Capitol. National Guard was mobilized later in the day to stop disturbances.

    resurrection city

    1968  Aerial view of RESURRECTION CITY near the Lincoln Memorial, Washington, DC, during the POOR PEOPLE'S CAMPAIGN.

  20. Ametia says:

    British Lose Right to Claim That Americans Are Dumber
    BOROWITZ

    LONDON (The Borowitz Report)—Across the United Kingdom on Friday, Britons mourned their long-cherished right to claim that Americans were significantly dumber than they are.

    Luxuriating in the superiority of their intellect over Americans’ has long been a favorite pastime in Britain, surpassing in popularity such games as cricket, darts, and snooker.

    But, according to Alistair Dorrinson, a pub owner in North London, British voters have done irreparable damage to the “most enjoyable sport this nation has ever known: namely, treating Americans like idiots.”

    “When our countrymen cast their votes yesterday, they didn’t realize they were destroying the most precious leisure activity this nation has ever known,” he said. “Wankers.”

    In the face of this startling display of national idiocy, Dorrinson still mustered some of the resilience for which the British people are known. “This is a dark day,” he said. “But I hold out hope that, come November, Americans could become dumber than us once more.”

    http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/british-lose-right-to-claim-that-americans-are-dumber?mbid=nl_062416%20Borowitz%20Newsletter%20(1)&CNDID=24441272&spMailingID=9108242&spUserID=MTA5MjQwMjI1MDIzS0&spJobID=942373192&spReportId=OTQyMzczMTkyS0

  21. Hey Rikyrah, what’s going on with Britain? What’s this exit about?

  22. Ametia says:

    HERE YOU GO FOLKS!

    The UK’s EU referendum: All you need to know

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887

    • Ametia says:

      The issue I have with folks who write books about murderous tragedies and what not, is that they are the only ones who benefit.

      Of course the families who SUE killer cops and Po Po departments are offered millions, but in scheme of it all, their family member is DEAD…KILLED, and the killers and other nefarious criminals, masked as law enforcement and politicians9*LOOKING@GOVERNORRICKSNYDER-FLINTWATERPOISONING* continue carrying on with business as usual …..

      WITH IMPUNITY

      noun: impunity: exemption from punishment or freedom from the injurious consequences of an action.
      “the impunity enjoyed by military officers implicated in civilian killings”

      So NO, I will not be purchasing these types of books to line these folks’ pockets with $$$

  23. rikyrah says:

    Seems like Cameron played himself by calling for this vote.

    • eliihass says:

      Coordinated propaganda and artificially whipped-up hysteria designed to elicit even more support for ones cause even when thee cause is good and well-meaning, can and will eventually backfire…

      The media and the politicians completely overplayed their hands…And even now in the wake of Brexit, they’re still at it…spinning and scaring away…

      They had a case…just bloody make the case honestly…without distortion and half-truths…and let the people mull over it, and decide…

      The chicken-little hysteria and projections, the faux-moral preachy tone and the attempts at innuendo that suggested that Armageddon might be imminent…only irritated folks all the more…made them feel manipulated and their intelligence insulted – and more importantly, some felt that the supposed ‘greatness’ of their sovereign and what they feel is a quite capable nation on its own, was being insulted and under assault with suggestions that Great Britain needed the EU …and needed to stay in …or else…

      There were other ways of making the case…honesty and treating folks like adults, instead of useful idiots…would have been a good start..

      Sometimes propaganda …no matter how well-intentioned does backfire…and folks instead of being persuaded, are completely turned off…

      This loss could have been headed off…but folks who ought to know better, decided instead to employ the same dishonest hysterics, playbook and propaganda normally more in line with and associated with UKIP – Britain’s version of America’s extreme right-wing folks…some call them ‘Nationalists or populists’…but that’s not what they are…just like the right-wingers here…what motivates them isn’t necessarily love of country…And just like here, you have quite smart, elite Tories aligning with and exploiting them for their own purposes…

      You just can’t outfox folks at their own game…

      And if we are not careful…the blatant coordination between our version of the media, the Clinton campaign, the similarly racist anti-Trump repubs, neocons – and the wealthy puppet-masters who own them and ultimately control the agenda …with their endless, sometimes lop-sided and sometimes over-the-top anti-Trump hysteria being fueled to scare and pummel folks with, will also also backfire..

      I’ve said it before, there is a tendency for some of these politicians – and the media, to overplay their hands…

      Folks are tired of being manipulated and treated like idiots…folks are also tired of everyone not only chiming in, but having very extended and expanded and unrestrained opinions about the politics and democracy of other countries they are not citizens of… something we used to consider rude and inappropriate and overstepping bounds…Time was when even green card holders and permanent resident non-citizens, kept their opinions about American politics to themselves…in much the same way as we did when we lived in the U.K….we didn’t offer opinions about their monarchy or the government of our host country…

      Sure, globalization is a thing now…but we cannot forget that not everybody buys into it, the concept of it…or what it purports to bring to the future…and especially in the ways it seemingly threatens the sovereignty of nations …no matter how promising the economic benefits of it…sometimes this sense of country and pride of country in its rawest and most vernacular sense, trumps economics…

      The seeming threat to sovereignty is something that scares and discomfits not just right-wingers and extremists… or even racists and xenophobes…but even some normally sensible and perfectly smart and educated people…

      They mightn’t share their concerns openly for fear of being judged and shunned..and are often reluctant to admit this even in polls…And then votes happen…and surprises like Brexit is the result..

      Brexit crossed party lines…some Labor and Tory and UKIP members were in this instance aligned in voting yes…

      If the American media and the Clinton campaign aren’t careful not to overplay their hand, we just might wake up with a President trump in January…

      Bet on it..

      • Ametia says:

        And there you HAVE IT.

        WaPo
        Stop underestimating Trump. ‘Brexit’ vote shows why he can win.
        THE BIG IDEA: Britain’s stunning vote to leave the European Union suggests that we’ve been seriously underestimating Donald Trump’s ability to win the presidential election.

        When you consider all his controversies and self-inflicted wounds over the past month, combined with how much he’s getting outspent on the airwaves in the battleground states, it is actually quite surprising that Trump and Hillary Clinton are so close in the polls. He’s holding his own, especially in the Rust Belt.

        The British campaign to exit the European Union (known as “Brexit”), like Trump’s, was fueled by grievance. Those agitating to cut off formal ties to the continent were less organized and less funded than those who wanted to stay connected, but that deficit didn’t matter in the end, because the energy was against the status quo.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/06/24/daily-202-stop-underestimating-trump-brexit-vote-shows-why-he-can-win/576c89e9981b92a22d2dd3dc/?wpisrc=nl_daily202&wpmm=1

        • eliihass says:

          I really wish folks would pay attention…

          Nothing about Brexit surprised me…

          I followed it closely since …I listened to David Cameron, Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage (the extreme right-winger)…I listened and I watched and heard the reactions of regular folks…I read their comments online…I read their newspaper editorials which tended to skew however their preferred politicians did…

          There were high-profile and outspoken Labour MP’s who wanted to leave the EU and where for Brexit…

          But the BBC, the Guardian were all pro-Remain and completely drowned out and failed to report …or probably failed to notice that a lot of regular folks weren’t on board…

          This is what happens when our media think they know best and instead of reporting what’s actually happening, try to skew things in favor of their preferred and highly thought of opinion…

          If instead of telling folks to shut up and vote how they in their infinite wisdom had demanded and instructed that they do, the tone-deaf media might actually have noticed – had they paid attention to voices outside their ‘superior’ bubble, that there were such deep expressions of dissatisfaction that included very basic concerns such as lack of financing of local schools etc…something so many felt was as a result of sending inordinate amounts of money to Brussels the EU capital at the expense of these localities..and of course the concern that Britain couldn’t afford to maintain basic services for its citizens outside of London..

  24. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    Bernie Sanders may not be quite ready to formally end his Democratic presidential bid, but he says he will vote for Hillary Clinton in November.

    Speaking on MSNBC Friday morning, he was asked if he planned to vote for Clinton, the presumptive Democratic nominee, in the fall election.

    “Yes. Yeah, I think the issue right here is, I’m going to do everything I can to defeat Donald Trump,” the Vermont senator said. “I think Trump, in so many ways, will be a disaster for this country if he were to be elected president.”

    Read more at
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/06/24/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-vote/86327816/

  25. rikyrah says:

    I have appreciated the LOVE 💟 this week.

  26. rikyrah says:

    This is who they are.

    We’ve always known this.

    There’s an ongoing debate in the chattering classes about the deepest motives of those who support Donald Trump for president…But now comes the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and Brookings with a new survey that adds powerful ammunition to the “It’s the Culture, Stupid!” faction…just listing some of their perceptions in a row will give a good sense of how strongly these folks resent cultural change:

    77 percent say it bothers them to come into contact with people who speak little or no English.
    81 percent say discrimination against whites is as big a problem as discrimination against minorities.
    77 percent say discrimination against Christians in the U.S. is a major problem.
    83 percent say the American way of life needs to be protected against foreign influences.
    83 percent say the values of Islam are at odds with America’s values and way of life.
    80 percent say immigrants constitute a burden on American society.
    68 percent say the country has changed mostly for the worse since the 1950s.

    • Liza says:

      This is interesting. We know their issues, of course, but the numbers are helpful to quantify the depth and breadth of this insanity and ignorance and fear.

      • Ametia says:

        NO, but it certainly QUALIFIES the depth & breath of their LOW STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS.

        Unfortunately, EVOLUTION is not in some folks’ vocab, Liza.

  27. rikyrah says:

    As the market plunged over 500 points this morning, Ferret Man said the Brexit vote was terrific.

    So, Wall Street Donor…you STILL gonna open your checkbook to this clown?

  28. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone :)

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