Wednesday Open Thread | Did Black Lives Matter Become a Moment, and Lose Their Chance to Become a Movement

Posted on April 11, 2018 by rikyrah

When Black Lives Matter came up, I felt the way the same way that I feel when I look at the Parkland Students:

They are who we have been waiting for. We have been waiting for those to come and pick up the torch. To show us the way, and we were supposed to assist them.

I know that I wasn’t the only ones who felt this way. I read how the Elders from the Civil Rights Era reached out to the young people of Black Lives Matter. How they wanted to give them guidance on what to do. Where they thought they went wrong. How they could help them build a sustainable infrastructure. That there wasn’t anyone in Ferguson or anywhere else, that didn’t have a public job, and couldn’t be fired if we got out and voted and voted in people who would make decisions positive for the community.

What they were told:
” This isn’t our grandparent’s movement.”
” We like being decentralized.”
” This talk about politics and voting is respectability politics.”

So, it was amusing to watch so many of the ‘ woke’ come for the Parkland kids. The kids who stepped up, and decided to organize by setting up a 501 (c)-3 group to raise money.

So, while they these tools to build an infrastructure,the BLM folks are talking about GoFundMe’s. And, because there was no formal infrastructure, who were people to come to and ask if things were legitimate.

They set themselves up to be played. And, played they were.

From The Root:

The Biggest ‘Black Lives Matter’ Page on Facebook Is a Fake: Report
Monique Judge
Yesterday 10:58pm

As Facebook continues to be mired in controversy over the way its user data has been used by outside companies and how its platform has repeatedly been infiltrated by Russian troll farms, a new report indicates that the social network’s largest Black Lives Matter page was not affiliated with BLM at all—and was, in fact, a fake.

Doing its own investigation, CNN found that the page—titled simply “Black Lives Matter”—was a scam with ties to a middle-aged white man in Australia.

The page had almost 700,000 followers on Facebook, which is more than twice the number of followers indicated on the official Black Lives Matter page. In addition, the page was tied to online fundraising campaigns purported to be raising money for Black Lives Matter causes in the United States. Those fundraisers brought in at least $100,000, and CNN reports that at least some of that money was transferred to Australian bank accounts.

So, after setting themselves up to be scammed, was there introspection by the BLM crowd, that maybe they should be doing things differently?
That maybe it’s time to try a new model?

The answer, unfortunately, is no.
No, rethinking that maybe they need to humble themselves and see that they blew the golden opportunity that they were given during 44’s Administration. And, because they blew it, they would have to do grassroots work to rebuild in a different way.

I hope that sooner, rather than later, they understand.
There are many of us out here rooting for them to get it.

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85 Responses to Wednesday Open Thread | Did Black Lives Matter Become a Moment, and Lose Their Chance to Become a Movement

  7. Ametia says:
    April 11, 2018 at 4:43 pm

    UH HUH
    UH HUH…See, Rikyrah, it’s contagious! LOL

    POLITICS
    Jill Stein’s Campaign Recently Turned Over Documents To The Senate Intelligence Committee
    “We got a sufficient supply; we got an adequate response from them,” said Senate Intelligence Committee Chair Richard Burr.

    Posted on April 11, 2018, at 3:08 p.m.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/emmaloop/jill-steins-campaign-has-turned-over-documents-in-the?utm_term=.btV5eO1Mr#.qdprP19pm

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  8. Ametia says:
    April 11, 2018 at 4:05 pm

    Transcript of Zuckerberg’s appearance before House committee
    Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg returns to the Hill for a second day of questioning. Here’s the transcript of the session.
    By Transcript courtesy of Bloomberg Government • Read more »

    https://s2.washingtonpost.com/5b20f9/5ace7417fe1ff61ddddf1bbf/YXdhcmVvZjQxMUBnbWFpbC5jb20%3D/12/48/3a569220054ddfca9b49a25bb24a75b5

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  9. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 3:11 pm

    The NRA is now trying the FACEBOOK Approach.

    Remember back when FACEBOOK said ‘ nobody was affected’ by the Russians?

    Yeah, I remember it too.

    Well, the NRA began with
    “OF COURSE, WE DIDN’T TAKE RUSSIAN MONEY”

    So, lookey lookey here…

    Now, they’ve taken money from 23 Russians.

    Uh huh
    Uh huh

    https://www.npr.org/2018/04/11/601534305/nra-in-new-document-acknowledges-more-than-20-russian-linked-contributors

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  10. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 3:00 pm

    Wait!
    How did we miss this?

    …………………

    And the hits just keep on coming. The FBI “seeking all records related to the ‘Access Hollywood’ tape”
    This week is so momentous—it’s only Wednesday—that it might have its own name in the future. Schadenfreude Week or something like that. https://t.co/IaaxvUxgVP

    — Andrew Seidel (@AndrewLSeidel) April 11, 2018

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  11. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    LOL

    Real funny how your position on marijuana can “evolve” when you’re getting paid.

    You do you, John Boehner. pic.twitter.com/hyROEMMBlG

    — Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) April 11, 2018

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  12. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 2:57 pm

    NEW:

    A majority of Senators now supports a bill that would protect the Mueller investigation from Trump.

    I talked to Democratic aides, who offered interesting reasons for (very) cautious optimism about its chances.

    My new post:https://t.co/Qp8tRKaeyP

    — Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) April 11, 2018

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  13. Ametia says:
    April 11, 2018 at 2:34 pm

    Check this out, ladies

    Oh, poor Michael Wolff

    “Fire and Fury” author Michael Wolff has cast himself as a Beltway outsider, a man who showed up at the White House determined to portray President Trump free of the norms set by the Washington establishment. Strange that such a renegade would care so much about how Beltway types view him.

    In an essay/extended whine in the Hollywood Reporter, Wolff writes:

    One recent evening, I heard CNN’s Jake Tapper taking aim at my perceived deviations from journalistic form, saying that if the Trump White House was not going to uphold standards, then “we” had to. Who, I wondered, was “we”? That is, what did I have in common, other than the subject of Trump, with Jake Tapper? Tapper is a television news personality who works for a top-down organization ever self-conscious about its complex agendas. I’m a writer who works entirely on my own.

    So little appreciation from Wolff for CNN, whose nonstop coverage of “Fire and Fury” in early January turned the book into a national obsession.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2018/04/11/oh-poor-michael-wolff/?utm_term=.9c59fd20fc14

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  14. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 2:25 pm

    35?
    35?

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller requested that a judge issue subpoenas for 35 witnesses to appear at the trial scheduled in federal court in Virginia for former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, according to a filing dated April 6.

    The filing does not say who Mueller intends to subpoena, just that he is requesting that they appear before U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis when the trial starts July 10.

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    • Ametia says:
      April 11, 2018 at 2:31 pm

      Any chance that Paul Ryan and few other GOPers who have jumped ship are planning to jump ship makeup some of the 35 witnesses?

      JUST ASKING

      Reply
  15. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 2:12 pm

    It’s Save Our Show time.

    Go to the link and vote for what shows you hope the networks will save.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2018/04/11/save-our-shows-2018-designated-blacklist-and-yes-timeless-lead-early-voting/504030002/?csp=chromepush

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  18. SouthernGirl2 says:
    April 11, 2018 at 1:13 pm

    check emails, ladies

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  19. Liza says:
    April 11, 2018 at 1:11 pm

    Paul Ryan is cashing out. Here’s why. He can go home with about 10 million or he can face a difficult re-election, possibly lose and spend all his money.

    Campaign Committee Fundraising, 2017 – 2018 LAST REPORT: 03/31/2018
    Raised:
    $11,369,137
    Spent:
    $9,908,290
    Cash on hand:
    $10,559,719
    Debts:
    $0

    https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/summary?cid=N00004357

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    • Ametia says:
      April 11, 2018 at 5:42 pm

      Ryan is and always has been over-hyped as smart & savvy.

      HE’S A COMPLETE FAILURE, a NASTY, UGLY, COLD-BLOODED THUGGISH, AYN RANDIAN SNAKE

      BYE BOY!

      Reply
  21. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 11:50 am

    Nunes threatens to impeach Trump-appointed FBI director
    04/11/18 10:40 AM
    By Steve Benen
    It’s been a few weeks since House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) made head-shaking news, so I guess we were due for a report like this one from Business Insider.

    [Nunes suggested last night] he has a plan to target deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein and FBI director Christopher Wray.

    “We’re not going to just hold in contempt, we will have a plan to hold in contempt and to impeach,” Nunes said to Fox News host Laura Ingraham on Tuesday evening.

    “We’re not messing around here,” Nunes continued.

    Apparently the California Republican, an unnervingly close ally of the Trump White House, wants the Justice Department to give him copies of unredacted documents used to launch the investigation into the Russia scandal.

    At issue are materials that document George Papadopoulos’ revelation that Russia had acquired damaging information on Hillary Clinton. The Justice Department and the FBI, perhaps skeptical of the increasingly ridiculous House Intelligence Committee, has been reluctant to play along with Nunes’ plan to undermine their investigation.

    But that resistance has only infuriated Nunes, who insisted last night on Fox News, “We’re at a boiling point where we need this.” Asked if he’s willing to impeach the director of the FBI, the congressman added, “Absolutely.”

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  24. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 11:11 am

    The enormous movement of younger voters towards Democrats this cycle is one of the biggest stories in American politics today. Size of the shift not well understood, but it is huge. Dems led by 9 in 2014, 33 today. Total gamechanger. My take – https://t.co/lt3j3tF5ZK

    — Simon Rosenberg (@SimonWDC) April 11, 2018

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  25. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 11:10 am

    45/ 💥NEW INFORMATION💥: the warrant application indicates that Manafort is being investigated for violating prohibitions against *FOREIGN NATIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS* to election campaigns. pic.twitter.com/ZLan78YwKv

    — Sarah Smith (@SLSmith000) April 11, 2018

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  26. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 11:09 am

    uh huh
    uh huh

    Ryan knew that Donald Trump is a racist and a conman who shouldn’t be allowed within a light year of the role of commander in chief, but supported him anyway gambling that he could use him to pass unpopular policies

    — Seth D. Michaels 🌲 (@sethdmichaels) April 11, 2018

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  27. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 11:08 am

    Charles Gaba crunches the numbers and finds that middle-class people buying their own insurance this year are paying nearly $1,000 more on average b/c of Trump’s health care sabotage.

    He also has state-by-state breakdowns.https://t.co/QiEHwQR2JS

    — Sam Berger (@SamBerger_DC) April 11, 2018

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  28. Ametia says:
    April 11, 2018 at 11:06 am

    Happy HUMP day, Everyone! Great post, Rikyrah.

    MEMO to BLM

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  29. SouthernGirl2 says:
    April 11, 2018 at 11:00 am

    Rikyrah, your post is spot on. Parkland kids are doing what it takes. They’re organizing, raising money, having voter registration drives, townhalls etc.No need to hate on these kids. BLM had their chance but nobody couldn’t tell them nothing. Well ok then!

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  31. Ametia says:
    April 11, 2018 at 10:17 am

    UH HUH

    – Meanwhile, a new group calling itself Republicans for the Rule of Law paid to run a pro-Mueller commercial on “Fox & Friends” in the D.C. media market this morning. That’s the president’s favorite show. Conservative Never Trumper Bill Kristol is a founding director. Watch the 30-second spot here:

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  32. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 10:00 am

    Another one

    Rep. Dennis Ross, R-Fla, informed staff this morning he is retiring. https://t.co/GM24cxSbmp

    — Alex Leary (@learyreports) April 11, 2018

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  33. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 9:59 am

    UH HUH
    UH HUH

    Here’s what you need to know about Paul Ryan. His main regret as he leaves Congress is that he failed to take health care away from more people.

    — Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) April 11, 2018

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  34. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 9:58 am

    Obstruction seen in reports of Trump desire to fire Mueller

    Rep. Adam Schiff, top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committe, talks with Rachel Maddow about new reports about Donald Trump’s desire to fire his way out of the Russia investigation, and the significance of new TRMS reporting that Dana Boente has been summoned to speak to Robert Mueller’s investigators.

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  35. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 9:57 am

    Exclusive documents show underpinnings of Trump obstruction case

    Jed Shugerman, Fordham University law professor, talks with Rachel Maddow about what conclusions can be drawn from exclusive documents obtained by TRMS, including what are believed to be the handwritten notes of Dana Boente on his conversation with James Comey on Comey’s interactions with Donald Trump.

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  37. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 9:56 am

    Exclusive: Handwritten notes appear to back Comey claims on Trump

    Rachel Maddow shares exclusive details from what are believed to be former acting assistant attorney general Dana Boente’s handwritten notes taken contemporaneously with talks with James Comey, corroborating Comey’s testimony about what Donald Trump said to him.

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  38. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 9:53 am

    Exclusive: Letter shows Mueller asked for Boente interview

    Rachel Maddow offers an exclusive look at newly obtained documents, one of which appears to be a letter from former acting attorney general Dana Boente informing the Department of Justice that he has been asked to testify for Robert Mueller’s investigation.
    Apr.10.2018

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  39. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 9:52 am

    Trump ‘believes’ he can fire Mueller (and he’s taken steps to do so)
    04/11/18 08:00 AM—UPDATED 04/11/18 08:14 AM
    By Steve Benen

    Donald Trump caused a bit of a stir late Monday afternoon, publicly speculating about firing Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Whether the president has the legal authority to do so directly, however, is a subject of some debate.
    And yet, there was White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders telling reporters yesterday that Trump “certainly believes he has the power” to oust the special counsel.

    There are multiple problems with this. First, by several accounts, it may be wrong. Second, Sanders’ comments suggest this has been the topic of some conversation at the White House, inching Team Trump closer to a possible crisis.

    And third, it’s not just an academic exercise – because the president has already reportedly taken steps to fire Mueller. The New York Times reported overnight:

    In early December, President Trump, furious over news reports about a new round of subpoenas from the office of the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, told advisers in no uncertain terms that Mr. Mueller’s investigation had to be shut down.

    The president’s anger was fueled by reports that the subpoenas were for obtaining information about his business dealings with Deutsche Bank, according to interviews with eight White House officials, people close to the president and others familiar with the episode. To Mr. Trump, the subpoenas suggested that Mr. Mueller had expanded the investigation in a way that crossed the “red line” he had set last year in an interview with The New York Times.

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  41. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 9:50 am

    Instead of defending Mueller, some in GOP target him
    04/11/18 09:20 AM
    By Steve Benen
    Late Monday, Donald Trump mused publicly about firing Special Counsel Robert Mueller, which meant there was quite a bit of chatter on Capitol Hill yesterday about what, if anything, lawmakers were prepared to do to shield the investigation from presidential interference.

    Most congressional Republicans fell into one of two camps. The first group was made up of GOP lawmakers who shrugged off the president’s comments, assuming he was simply blowing off steam, and that the threat of Trump instigating such a crisis wasn’t real. The second group took the rhetoric a little more seriously, and indirectly warned Trump that even trying to fire Mueller would put his presidency in jeopardy.

    But I was especially interested in the third group: the Republicans who aren’t just disinclined to support the special counsel’s work, but who are actually openly hostile toward it.

    Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.), for example, seemed surprised when asked about effort to shield the special counsel. “To protect Mueller?” the Georgia Republican said. “I think it’s about time we get to the end of [the] investigation. This looks like an investigation that’s spiraling out of control.”

    Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) went a little further.

    The Kentucky Republican defended Trump on Fox News, saying Tuesday that the FBI’s raid on the president’s longtime personal lawyer Michael Cohen went too far, and took aim at special prosecutor Robert Mueller as a result.

    “What does this have to do with Russia?” Paul said on Fox News. “Going after someone’s personal attorney is a great overstep I think in the authority of the prosecutor … I think that Mueller has abused his authority.”

    To the extent that reality matters, Mueller didn’t execute the search warrants on Cohen’s office and hotel; the U.S. attorney’s office in New York did.

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  44. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 9:27 am

    Just thinking about this.
    Maddow’s actual obtaining of the Boente Memos. Someone in the FBI is leaking for real.
    We got ourselves a 2018 version of Mark Felt.

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  45. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    April 11, 2018 at 8:55 am

    Judge Jane Bolin was born on this day, April 11, in 1908.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Jane_Bolin_1942.jpg/440px-Jane_Bolin_1942.jpgFrom Wikipedia:

    Jane Matilda Bolin, LL.B. (April 11, 1908 – January 8, 2007) was the first black woman to graduate from Yale Law School, the first to join the New York City Bar Association and the first to join the New York City Law Department. She became the first black woman to serve as a judge in the United States when she was sworn into the bench of the New York City Domestic Relations Court in 1939.

    https://youtu.be/eCNkpJrwNqc&rel=0

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  46. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 8:50 am

    Do y’know who introduced that “Red Line” he’s about to cross?

    It was Maggie Haberman (and some other NYT reporter who’s not as front-facing).

    They handed this “Red Line” to Trump. Fed it to him, in fact. You can find it on your own, but DM me if you want the transcript now.

    — Neokara Calavera (@KaraCalavera) April 11, 2018

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  47. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    April 11, 2018 at 8:47 am

    Chemist Percy Lavon Julian was born on this day, April 11, in 1899.
    From Wikipedia:

    Percy Lavon Julian (April 11, 1899 – April 19, 1975) was an African American research chemist and a pioneer in the chemical synthesis of medicinal drugs from plants.He was the first to synthesize the natural product physostigmine, and a pioneer in the industrial large-scale chemical synthesis of the human hormones progesterone and testosterone from plant sterols such as stigmasterol and sitosterol. His work laid the foundation for the steroid drug industry’s production of cortisone, other corticosteroids, and birth control pills.

    https://youtu.be/DuF7ss-r-m4&rel=0

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  48. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    April 11, 2018 at 8:39 am

    Spellman College was founded on this day, April 11, in 1881.

    https://youtu.be/W0a47n4TTyQ&rel=0

    https://youtu.be/rvpc-0n74cY&rel=0

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  49. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    April 11, 2018 at 8:25 am

    “House Speaker Paul Ryan won’t seek re-election”
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/11/politics/paul-ryan-retirement-house-speaker/index.html

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    • yahtzeebutterfly says:
      April 11, 2018 at 5:32 am

      This scary and heartbreaking.

      And for them to lie about it! What if there had not been surveillance video??

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  59. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 5:07 am

    How cute. They commit TREASON, and there is a “loss of clout ”

    https://twitter.com/nytpolitics/status/983914550385893376?s=20

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    • eliihass says:
      April 11, 2018 at 6:22 pm

      Our warped ‘media’ at work..

      Greedy, unscrupulous, immature, transactional stenographers and gossip columnists consistently and deliberately muddying stuff up on behalf of the power and money purveyors they seek access to..

      Reply
  64. rikyrah says:
    April 11, 2018 at 4:59 am

    Good Morning,Everyone 😄😄😄

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