#DylannRoof Judge: “There are four kinds of people in this world: black, white, red necks & niggers”

Dylan Roof JudgeThe judge who called for sympathy for shooter Dylann Roof’s family members has a history of racist language in the courtroom.

Charleston County Magistrate James B. Gosnell began Friday’s bond hearing for mass-murderer Dylann Roof by declaring that the killer’s family members were victims as well.

At least he did not repeat an opinion that he offered in another proceeding a dozen years ago.

“There are four kinds of people in this world—black people, white people, red necks, and n—rs,” Gosnell advised a black defendant in a November 6, 2003 bond reduction hearing.

The comment led to a judicial disciplinary proceeding and a 2005 determination by the state Supreme Court. The court’s written finding reports Gosnell’s lame defense.

“[Gosnell] represents he knew the defendant, the defendant’s father, and the defendant’s grandfather,” the finding notes. “[Gosnell] represents that when the defendant, an African-American, appeared in court for the bond hearing, [Gosnell] recalled a statement made to him by a veteran African American sheriff’s deputy.”

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179 Responses to #DylannRoof Judge: “There are four kinds of people in this world: black, white, red necks & niggers”

  1. Dallas says:

    If anybody deserves death for what he did it’s this creature.

  2. rikyrah says:

    found this at POU:

    Nelba Marquez-Green, whose beloved precious daughter Ana was murdered in Sandy Hook wrote this on Facebook few days ago:

    April 2013.

    I was invited to fly down to Washington DC to strategize for gun responsibility and meet a bunch of really important legislators.

    We were all sitting around a table and the question was asked, “what’s the one thing that needs to change in our culture to reduce gun violence?”

    My answer? “The hearts of white men”. Everyone stared at me uncomfortably. I was the only person of color in the room. But, I was clear. Why? And why did I leave the “movement”?

    Because NO ONE wanted to talk about racism. NO ONE wanted to talk about privilege. NO ONE wanted to own that my child had just been murdered by a man raised in affluence, with access to medical care.

    You know what many did want to talk about ? “thugs” “ghettos” “gangbangers” “drug dealers” “single parents”. Code for people who look like me. But they didn’t know. My skin is light and my hair was straight and my husband was not present. They didn’t know some of the other families from newtown were equally appalled.

    NOT ONE was brave enough to stand up and even name the disease that is “hatred”. Fear of the other. Racism, discrimination.

    NOT ONE willing to discuss the increase of angry, young adult White male mass shooters.

    NOT ONE willing to talk about criminalizing parents for buying their ill children guns. Or holding them responsible for the crimes they commit. (Unless we were talking about poor, urban ones).

    NOT ONE wanted to talk about the importance of parental accountability in child rearing (unless we were talking about poor, urban folks).

    NOT ONE in any way, shape or form really wanting to talk about mental health from a prevention perspective…..from cradle to grave.

    NOT ONE wanting to discuss the changing landscape of America and the impact on the white male psyche.

    NOT ONE willing to talk about the need for love.

    I left the “movement” for many reasons. The brown family that lost their baby in sandy hook just didn’t fit in. Anywhere. And we weren’t talking about real issues.

    We were better off remembering our child on our own. We were better off “promoting love, community and connection for every child and family”.

    We were all victimized on 12/14. We were robbed of the unique, amazing contributions that those murdered people would have made in the world.

    We were all victims this week as well.

    I haven’t pledged since 12-14. I will pledge when we can really say we are “land of the free, home of the brave”. I didn’t see bravery. I saw a bunch of cowards in DC.

    I am so, so sorry Ana Grace. I am so, so sorry Isaiah. You deserved so much better than this.

  3. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    Shaun King ‏@ShaunKing
    The #GoHomeDeray hashtag, which has been a top trend nationwide for over 14 hours, is despicable & cowardly.
    It also has deep racist roots:

    @ShaunKing funny how time and time again they repeat the same hatred pic.twitter.com/3pJOuq745p— moe (@moejo219) June 21, 2015

  4. rikyrah says:

    skeptical brotha @skepticalbrotha
    They’ll praise Nikki Haley because they can’t admit that White Supremacy is a problem, and if they did, they don’t have a single solution.

  5. rikyrah says:

    from POU:

    What Chuck Todd did today was the beginning of the media attempting to shift the narrative of the shooting in Charleston. Coincidentally the Council of Conservative Citizens is putting out bullshit about “legitimate grievances”. All to get the spotlight off of White folks and their issues with racism. That’s why these Blackademics constantly trying to make racism a “But why ain’t Obama doing nothin? He ain’t never loved us!” trope need to be slapped. These Coons are doing exactly what the MSM wants.

  6. rikyrah says:

    Jeanne K. ‏@SnarkAmendment 2h2 hours ago
    Remember @martinbashir only offended Sarah Palin and got fired.
    Chuck Todd just offended half the country. #FireChuckTodd

    • Ametia says:

      SATURDAY, JUNE 20, 2015

      He is Not a Twenty-First Century White Supremacy ‘Mindweapon’: The ‘Last Rhodesian’ Dylann Roof’s ‘Manifesto’ is Tedious, Boilerplate, White Supremacist Claptrap

      There is a furious effort now on the part of the so called mainstream media, to blunt the racism angle of this shooting, which really is the only angle, to avoid having the discussion that needs to be had. Yes, guns are a problem. But racism is an even bigger problem; its the catalyst for the devastating use of guns in a lot of cases. Racism was the focus of the Charleston killer. He wasn’t there to make a statement on the second amendment or gun rights, he was there to kill black people for being black, to start a race war.

      If anything, what the media needs to be exploring are the beliefs of people like Roof. Where do they come from? Why do they persist in believing things that are not true, in order to keep alive the hatred that seems to be the only thing that really animates them politically? If they were going to air a segment, why not air one of white male killers, who are damn near the sole perpetrators of mass killing, and ask them why they did it?

    • yahtzeebutterfly says:

      Here is the Southern Poverty Law Center’s article of the Council of Conservative Citizens:


      Founded in 1985 by Gordon Baum, a worker’s compensation attorney and longtime racist activist, the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC) rose from the ashes of the Citizens Councils of America (CCA), commonly called “White Citizens Councils,” a coalition of white-supremacist groups and individuals formed throughout the South to defend school segregation after the Supreme Court outlawed the policy in 1954 in Brown vs. Board of Education.

      Unlike the KKK, the CCA groups had a veneer of civic respectability, inspiring future Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall to refer to it as the “uptown Klan.”

  7. rikyrah says:

    From TOD:

    June 21, 2015 at 5:14 pm
    Hello everyone! I hardly comment here, but I’m a long time everyday lurker. I love TOD and it is here where I get updates on the President and read your great comments. You all are my life line when I need to get the facts because of some MSM hysterical harebrained story about President Obama and I also come here for laughs (Amk :-)) when need be.

    I comment today because my heart is broken because of the tragedy at Mother Emmanuel AME. I grew up in Emmanuel and it’s been a part of my family for generations. I’m so sad for the victims, their families, my Emmanuel family and my family in Charleston. They are torn up and they all have some connection to the people that were killed. Although I’m on the other side of the country and can’t be there during this tragic time, my heart and soul is in Charleston.

    Also, I want to share my story and brief moments with Rev Pinckney and Rev Simmons. I thought people should know how these two kind and thoughtful men helped me during a sorrow time of my life.

    My mother passed away and her funeral was held at Emmanuel AME on June 1st. Before she passed, my mother was in & out of the hospital since March. When she first went into the hospital she was diagnosed with kidney failure. At that time the doctors wanted me to decide to either put my mother on dialysis or to place her in hospice. I wasn’t ready and couldn’t make that decision for her. I told the doctor he needed to talk to her and let her make that decision. My mother decided that she wanted to live a little longer. Since then, she has been in and out of the hospital. Her health was getting worst. The last week she was in the hospital, her doctor called me with more bad news. He said they found cancer in her lungs and again asked me to make a decision, because other than dialysis there was nothing more they can do for her. Knowing my mother’s health had gotten worst, I became scared, upset and heartbroken. I didn’t know what to do. I told the doctor I couldn’t make a decision just yet, I needed time to process and talk to my family. The next morning, I woke up thinking I should call my mother’s church and speak with the pastor; he would be able to help me. I don’t know why I had that thought, but something in me said to call. I haven’t communicated with Emmanuel since I left Charleston over thirty years ago.

    When I called that morning, I reached the church secretary. I told her that I needed to speak with the pastor about my mother who was a long time member and I gave her little background of why I was calling. She said she knew my mother and she was going to contact the pastor as soon as possible. Nervous and anxious, I hadn’t heard from him for a couple of hours, so I called back. The secretary apologized and said the pastor was in Columbia, SC in session, but she’ll make sure he calls me as soon as possible. An hour later, my phone rang and it was Rev Pinckney. He greeted me with his strong voice and said he was so sorry to hear about my mother. He had just visited her at the hospital the week before. He said that they had a good time talking and she made him laugh. He also went on to say that he understood my dilemma and asked was I ready to make the decision, did I talked to the doctors and family members? I told him, I had not made a decision and yes I spoke to my family, but they left it up to me. I cried and told him I didn’t know what to do, I didn’t want to let my mother die, but I also didn’t want her to be in pain or suffer. He told me it’s going to be alright and he prayed with me. He said overall, he couldn’t tell me what to do, it’s up to me and the family, but he would be there for me anytime day or night.

    My family and I eventually decided that we couldn’t let my mother suffer any longer so we put her in hospice. When I arrived in Charleston I called Rev Pickney and told him we made a decision and it would be a matter of time. Again, he prayed with me and asked if I needed anything. A week later she passed.

    Rev Pinckney called me and told me to Rev Simmons will be contacting me about the service. I met with Rev Simmons at Emmanuel. He greeted me with open arms and told me that he was there for me. While planning the service, Rev Simmons knew I was too distraught, so he guided me through the process. There were a few times I called Rev Simmons for some reason or another and without hesitation; he took the time to talk. Last week I received a voicemail from Rev. Simmons checking up on me. I called him back and we talked briefly. He asked will I be coming back to Charleston and I told him not anytime soon, but I was so grateful for his help and thanked him for everything.

    The Saturday before my mother’s funeral we met with Rev Pinckney. It was a very busy day for him, he had a wedding to officiate and family events to attend, but he text me to let me know he would be running late but come to the church and he’ll meet with my cousin and I shortly. We waited for only a few minutes. When we finally met face to face, he greeted us with a big smile and hug. He told me it was finally great to meet me and again asked if I needed anything. We prayed and talked for a while about our decision, his eulogy and my mother. While in his office, I noticed he had a picture of Rev Pinckney and Vice President Biden, I smiled to myself and realized we had a lot in common. I didn’t ask him about the picture because it wasn’t the place or time, but I assured myself that mom’s eulogy would be in good hands and it was. He gave a beautiful eulogy and after the services, he greeted the family and I gave him a big hug and thanked him for everything. After the burial, although he was very busy he stayed, chatted and laughed with us at the repass and that was the last time I saw him.

    I will never forget Rev Pinckney and Rev Simmons. They helped me get through a very difficult time in my life and I deeply appreciate it. I know it is part of their jobs to be there for families when a church member passes away, but I didn’t perceive it that way. The time they took with me and my family was genuine, sincere, generous and thoughtful. God bless them!

    Thank you Chips for allowing me to share my story.


    • Ametia says:

      Reposting this here;

      If anything, what the media needs to be exploring are the beliefs of people like Roof. Where do they come from? Why do they persist in believing things that are not true, in order to keep alive the hatred that seems to be the only thing that really animates them politically? If they were going to air a segment, why not air one of white male killers, who are damn near the sole perpetrators of mass killing, and ask them why they did it?

  8. rikyrah says:

    The Slaves Singing ‏@williamcson 3m3 minutes ago

    At some point we have to realize the White dominated media knows exactly what it’s doing & intends to antagonize us. It’s done on purpose.

  9. Twitter GOING IN on Chuck Todd’s ASS

  10. rikyrah says:

    PragmaticObotsUnite @PragObots
    hope @MichaelEDyson is as vocal about Chuck Todd’s racial tone deafness as he was about PBO’s #AMEShooting statement https://twitter.com/juddlegum/status/612706221980798976

  11. rikyrah says:

    Dan Cohen @dancohen3000
    Confederate flag on display in Jerusalem #sharedvalues pic.twitter.com/tPIrZWEbW8

  12. rikyrah says:

    Saturday, June 20, 2015
    Right Wing Media and Their “Racialized Political Fodder”

    In what is purported to be Dylann Roof’s “manifesto,” he writes that this is where it all began:

    The event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case. I kept hearing and seeing his name, and eventually I decided to look him up. I read the Wikipedia article and right away I was unable to understand what the big deal was. It was obvious that Zimmerman was in the right. But more importantly this prompted me to type in the words “black on White crime” into Google, and I have never been the same since that day. The first website I came to was the Council of Conservative Citizens.

    Reading that reminded me of how Ta-Nehisi Coates had meticulously laid out the process by which the killing of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman became “racialized political fodder” for right wing media.

    The reaction to the tragedy was, at first, trans-partisan. Conservatives either said nothing or offered tepid support for a full investigation—and in fact it was the Republican governor of Florida, Rick Scott, who appointed the special prosecutor who ultimately charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder. As civil-rights activists descended on Florida, National Review, a magazine that once opposed integration, ran a column proclaiming “Al Sharpton Is Right.” The belief that a young man should be able to go to the store for Skittles and an iced tea and not be killed by a neighborhood-­watch patroller seemed un­controversial.

    By the time reporters began asking the White House for comment, the president likely had already given the matter considerable thought. Obama is not simply America’s first black president—he is the first president who could credibly teach a black-studies class…

    The moment Obama spoke, the case of Trayvon Martin passed out of its national-mourning phase and lapsed into something darker and more familiar—racialized political fodder. The illusion of consensus crumbled. Rush Limbaugh denounced Obama’s claim of empathy. The Daily Caller, a conservative Web site, broadcast all of Martin’s tweets, the most loutish of which revealed him to have committed the un­pardonable sin of speaking like a 17-year-old boy. A white-­supremacist site called Stormfront produced a photo of Martin with pants sagging, flipping the bird. Business Insider posted the photograph and took it down without apology when it was revealed to be a fake.

    Newt Ging­rich pounced on Obama’s comments: “Is the president suggesting that if it had been a white who had been shot, that would be okay because it wouldn’t look like him?” Reverting to form, National Review decided the real problem was that we were interested in the deaths of black youths only when nonblacks pulled the trigger. John Derbyshire, writing for Taki’s Magazine, an iconoclastic libertarian publication, composed a racist advice column for his children inspired by the Martin affair. (Among Derbyshire’s tips: never help black people in any kind of distress; avoid large gatherings of black people; cultivate black friends to shield yourself from charges of racism.)

    The notion that Zimmerman might be the real victim began seeping out into the country, aided by PR efforts by his family and legal team…In April, when Zimmerman set up a Web site to collect donations for his defense, he raised more than $200,000 in two weeks, before his lawyer asked that he close the site and launched a new, independently managed legal-defense fund…

    …Before President Obama spoke, the death of Trayvon Martin was generally regarded as a national tragedy. After Obama spoke, Martin became material for an Internet vendor flogging paper gun-range targets that mimicked his hoodie and his bag of Skittles… Before the president spoke, George Zimmerman was arguably the most reviled man in America. After the president spoke, Zimmerman became the patron saint of those who believe that an apt history of racism begins with Tawana Brawley and ends with the Duke lacrosse team.

    There you have it, folks. Because President Obama simply said, “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” the right wing media in this country went into a frenzy. That’s when they got Roof’s attention. The rest was up to the white supremacist group, the Council of Conservative Citizens.


  13. Liza says:

    Look at this. Maybe they should have taken down the flag when they were asked to politely.

    Confederate statue in downtown Charleston tagged. pic.twitter.com/QDXjWDwpdK— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) June 21, 2015

  14. rikyrah says:

    BWD @theonlyadult
    Hey @MHarrisPerry & @MichaelEDyson how about instead of blaming Obama for everything, you’ll go after birther, white supremacist @chucktodd

  15. rikyrah says:

    Milt Shook @MiltShook
    Who the FUCK at @NBCNews thought this was a great idea? http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/wtf-nbcs-chuck-todd-airs-color-blind-segment-with-all-black-shooters-to-address-charleston-massacre/ … Heads should roll with this one. #tonedeaf #braindead

    • Ametia says:

      Asolutely shameful, but then we should NOT be surprised at the levels to which these cable networks have sank to.

      They have taken Fox’s lead on catering to the racists, ignorant midnset of the GOP base and doing the bidding of their benefactors, the KOCH BROTHERS.

  16. rikyrah says:

    raemd95 @raemd95
    If #ChuckTodd is just going to make up stuff, NBC should just bring back #BrianWilliams as Moderator of #MeetThePress

  17. rikyrah says:

    Hmmm @EthanObama
    Slave owner kills nine slaves but Chuck Todd runs a segment on runaway slaves stealing hot apple pies off the window sill.

  18. We’re grieving 9 people shot dead by a white supremacist while in Bible Study & Chuck Todd does a segment on black shooters. White supremacy won’t even let us grieve in peace.

    For the love of all that is HOLY…Take Chuck Todd OFF THE TV.

  19. rikyrah says:

    MHP: Charleston attack was ‘an act of racial terror’
    “To walk into the womb of Mother Emanuel, to worship for an hour with her people, to take their lives in calculating, cold blood, is to strike at the very heart of the black American struggle for freedom,” says Melissa Harris-Perry


  20. rikyrah says:

    uh huh

    uh huh


    How Charleston’s Emanuel AME Church Triggered White Southern Militarism


    Published JUNE 18, 2015, 12:21 PM EDT

    Last night, a white man (suspected to be 21-year-old Dylann Roof) entered the historic Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in downtown Charleston, South Carolina, sat through an hour-long meeting, and then opened fire on those in attendance. Reverend Clementa Pinckney, a state senator, was among nine individuals who were killed. Many are shocked at not only the grisly nature of the shooting, but also its location.

    “There is no greater coward,” Cornell William Brooks, president of the N.A.A.C.P, declared in a statement, “than a criminal who enters a house of God and slaughters innocent people engaged in the study of scripture.”

    This experience is unfortunately far from new: While black churches have long been seen as a powerful symbol of African-American community, they have also served as a flashpoint for hatred from those who fear black solidarity, and as a result these edifices have been the location for many of our nation’s most egregious racial terrorist acts.

    Further, the very spot of land on which the Emanuel Church is built has witnessed much of this sobering history. In the summer of 1822, white residents of Charleston discovered that one of their worst fears had come true: a slave conspiracy to rise against their masters and slaughter all white residents was afoot in the city. The accused ringleader, Denmark Vesey, was a former slave who had been a free carpenter in Charleston for two decades. His insurrection was supposedly planned to take place on July 14—Bastille Day. Once the plot was uncovered, however, authorities were swift with retaliation: 131 men were charged with conspiracy, 67 were convicted, and 35, including Vesey, were hanged. While historians today debate the extent of the conceived rebellion, the event proved formidable in confirming southern angst over an “internal enemy,” and white supremacists knew they had to respond quickly and violently.

    That Vesey was one of the founders of the Emanuel Methodist Episcopal Church was no mere coincidence. To those who pushed prosecution, the church was central to the conspiracy. The year prior, city officials had closed the church because they feared it was breaking slave codes concerning unsupervised black gatherings after sunset and the law against teaching slaves to read. Charleston authorities depicted Vesey’s frustrations over their suppression of church activities as one of his three primary motivations. (The other two were the Haitian Revolution and the debates over the Missouri Compromise.) The punishment for these sins was the noose.

    In the wake of the suppressed rebellion, Charleston lawyer Edwin Holland specifically blamed black churches. These preachers, he accused, carried “the Sacred Volume of God in one hand” while spreading ideas “of discord and destruction, and secretly disperse among our Negro Population, the seeds of discontent and sedition” with the other. The city decided the African Methodist Episcopal Church, which attracted nearly 2,000 congregants, was the problem. New draconian measures were instituted that banned religious services without a white person present. The AME Church, only built four years previously, was then burned to the ground even as the conspirators were hung from the sky.


  21. rikyrah says:

    h/t TOD

    charlestons emauel ame
    Arriving at Charleston’s Emanuel AME this morning

    Amk: ‘The one who has seen it all, and the one who hopefully won’t’

    • yahtzeebutterfly says:

      Movingly powerful!

    • rikyrah says:

      why this picture touches me:

      it’s the timelessness of it. the little girl, in her afropuffs and summer dress..outside of the color of the shoes…they probably would have been black when I was growing up, but that dress, could have come from anytime in the past 40 years. And, the Elder with his white gloves….he could have been standing there today, 20 years ago, 40 years ago, 60 years ago…

      this has always been our community…and we know it down to our soul.

    • Liza says:

      This picture is so beautiful and so well thought out that it looks like a painting.

    • Ametia says:

      Echoeing Rikyrah’s sentiments. This photo right down to the wooden doors could have been my church, me and my daughters all could have been this little girl.

      And our wise Elders, deacons…..


  22. rikyrah says:

    X @XLNB
    The media blamed Trayvon and Mike Brown’s parents, but #DylannRoof family are somehow the victims. #no

  23. rikyrah says:

    Joshua L. @theuppitynegro
    Jake Tapper don’t understand black church. Said he don’t get why they singing uplifting gospel music.

  24. rikyrah says:

    pril ‏@ReignOfApril 11m11 minutes ago

    April retweeted Ray Childress

    I’m unavailable for your ignorance today. Leave a message at my middle finger. I’m so stealing this line.

    April added,

    Ray Childress @CotorraBooks

    @ReignOfApril So funny that ppl got a problem with #RachelDolezal identifying herself as black, but #CaitlynJenner is ok as a woman #Doyou

  25. rikyrah says:

    Found at POU:


    It must be frustrating for them because the bastard is not a white kkkop who of course can do no wrong and whose version of events must always be believed. His victims were not people they could easily smear with a fuzzy video, a “menacing” photo, poor grades, drunkenness, toy guns or the God-awful crime of selling loose cigarettes. Most white people in this country, with an assist from the media and right-wingers, suspend all logic and common sense and like sheep allow themselves to be persuaded that a state-sanctioned, brutal death is an acceptable outcome for these minor and/or non offenses.

    In this case, however, the victims are “respectable”, educated, professional, black people murdered during bible study in a church. Now, what’s a right-winger to do with that? How can he spin it to the murderers’ advantage? Chances are, he/she can’t.

    So, if we didn’t know it before this slaughter, we know it now. If you’re black, please don’t get murdered unless your life and character are unimpeachable because that’s the only way you’ll get even a modicum of sympathy or respect in death. America, what a truly fucked-up country!

    • Ametia says:

      Chokie TOAD attempted to erase & whitesplain that murdering racist who terrorized and massacred 9 black PRAYING church-goers, by featuring blacks who murder on a Sunday morning talk show that caters to white folks.

      SOUNDS LIKE FOX doesn’t it?

  26. rikyrah says:

    guess who is trying to erase their cyber footprint?


    After the Discovery of Dylann Roof’s Website, the Council of Conservative Citizens Is Running Scared

    By Charles Johnson


    Share0As we noted in our previous article about the discovery of Dylann Storm Roof’s website, Roof credited the white supremacist group called the Council of Conservative Citizens with “awakening” him to “black on white crime,” and inspiring him to start out on the murderous racist path that led him to the Emanuel AME Church in Charleston.

    Following the exposure of Roof’s “manifesto” (and “manifesto” is too grandiose a term for what’s really just a racist rant), the Council of Conservative Citizens apparently took down their entire website; if you go to topconservativenews.com or conservative-headlines.com (the deceptively innocuous-sounding names for their hate site) you see nothing but a blank white screen at the moment. But Google’s cache still has a copy of their post trying to distance themselves from Dylann Roof — with hundreds of evil, racist comments.

    And now we’ve learned (via @MelioraMed) that one of the CCC’s main spokesmen on Twitter, Kyle Rogers (@kylerogers76), an overt racist with nearly 40,000 followers, has also deleted his Twitter account. If you click that link to his username you’ll see: “Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!”

    Here’s what his profile page looked like a few days ago, from Google’s cache:

    Read more at http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/44745_After_the_Discovery_of_Dylann_Roofs_Website_the_Council_of_Conservative_Citizens_Is_Running_Scared#wwq1exCqxPV7JjhB.99

  27. rikyrah says:

    The Daily Edge ‏@TheDailyEdge 11h11 hours ago
    When @JebBush wanted to remove it, @MarcoRubio co-sponsored “Confederate Flag Bill” in Florida http://www.huffingtonpost.com/… …

  28. rikyrah says:

    Compartmentalizing Slavery
    How white Americans constructed a fictitious distinction between white and black emotions.

    By Heather Andrea Williams

    This article supplements Episode 3 of the History of American Slavery, our inaugural Slate Academy. Please join Slate’s Jamelle Bouie and Rebecca Onion for a different kind of summer school. To learn more and to enroll, visit Slate.com/Academy.

    Excerpted from Help Me to Find My People: The African American Search for Family Lost in Slavery by Heather Andrea Williams. Published by The University of North Carolina Press.

    Their griefs are transient. Those numberless afflictions, which render it doubtful whether Heaven has given life to us in mercy or in wrath, are less felt, and sooner forgotten with them. In general, their existence appears to participate more of sensation than reflection.

    —Thomas Jefferson, president and slave owner

    There was certainly no monolithic white response to the separation of slave families. Certainly white abolitionists abhorred slavery, and many agreed with Harriet Beecher Stowe that family separation was one of its most repulsive features; but even some of them questioned black people’s ability to feel deeply.

    It is fair to say that most white people had been so acculturated to view black people as different from them that they did not perceive the existence of slavery in America as a problem, and when exposed to slaves, they barely noticed the pain that they experienced. These whites compartmentalized their lives and experiences, putting themselves and other whites into one sphere and enslaved people or even free black people into another. It did not even occur to them that emotions experienced in the white sphere could also be experienced by the enslaved people.

    Sarah Brownrigg Sparkman, for example, could listen to the 91 enslaved people she took to Mississippi express their concerns about leaving their loved ones behind yet speak of them as being cheerful, childlike, and without a care. She did not layer their concern and anxiety over their curiosity and awe; instead she saw only one dimension. When she wrote of the enslaved people singing into the night even though they had to walk for miles the next day, she did not consider whether, as Frederick Douglass believed, “The songs of the slave represent the sorrows of his heart and is relieved by them, only as an aching heart is relieved by its tears.” She could not see that the slaves who sang together at night may have done so in part to soothe themselves and to hold their community together. She also did not seem to notice if some people were too sad to participate in the singing, or whether Rose had wandered off alone to grieve for her husband, whom she had left behind in North Carolina. These details eluded Sparkman even as she wrote about missing her own relatives; she was able to see only simple-minded people who were able to walk all day and stay up all night enjoying themselves.


  29. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    The confederate flag represents a evil part of history.

    It stands for unspeakable violence against Blacks, heinous oppression, opposition against civil rights, and deep racist hatred.


  30. rikyrah says:

    PAUL MOONEY Black Criminals vs White Criminals


  31. I’m damn tired of the FBI Director feeding the public BS on who’s a fucking terrorist. Racism is rampant all the way to top levels of GOVERNMENT!

  32. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    BREAKING: Confederate flags are burning across America as citizens revolt against the #CharlestonShooting. pic.twitter.com/cgM6hPa0UM— Bipartisan Report (@Bipartisanism) June 20, 2015

  33. rikyrah says:

    H/T LGF commenter

    Wow! Mike Huckabee once addressed Council for Conservative Citizens that inspired #DylannRoof #CharlestonShooting pic.twitter.com/ECFECwQNp6

    — Muck Raker (@VoteMuck) June 20, 2015

  34. rikyrah says:

    On Lamh’s blog,

    I decided to read a majority white space – Gawker to see the evaluation after the manifesto and this comment proves Lamh assessment on point

    Brendan O’Connor

    6/20/15 11:47am

    This is honestly frightening to me. Because a lot of people I know wouldn’t exactly disagree with his opinions of black people/asian people/white people.

    I’ve had family members say with absolute certainty that whites were more evolved from blacks. Why? Because blacks are able to run faster and jump higher because of evading animals, while white people aren’t able to do that because we “evolved” beyond the need to. They believe adaptation=evolution. They viewed white people as genetically superior.

    It’s sad that I have family members, people I know and love, who would probably agree with everything he said in that manifesto if I didn’t tell them who wrote it.

    These ideas aren’t radical, these thoughts aren’t extremist, or delusional, or rare. The south is ripe with people who actually wholeheartedly agree to these ideas, because that is what they were told by their parents, who were told by their parents, who grew up in the time where black people were hanged in the streets. Where black people had their houses, their places of worship set on fire just for existing NEAR the white neighborhoods.

    The adults, the grandparents, the NEWS are teaching children, teens, and young adults that black people DESERVE to die because of their actions. If Fox News has the BALLS to tell me that this was not an attack based on race, then Fox News needs to admit that they are the problem. They REFUSE to talk about race because they do not want to think that this is THEIR issue.

    Racism is alive and well in the south. Racism is alive and well in the media. It is coddled with a warm familiarity by so many people. They don’t want to admit that they are the problem. That the STEREOTYPES they perpetuate have MURDERED 9 people in a Church. 9 people who accepted him when he entered and did not turn him away, 9 people who prayed with him before he murdered their friends and their family.

    The family of the victims forgive him because they know this is not an issue originating from him. This is an issue bigger than any snot-nosed 21 year old brat. This is an issue that stems from the media’s portrayal of black people.

    • yahtzeebutterfly says:

      Lamh is correct and it makes me shudder.

      Now it the time for all good people and I mean ALL to get involved and push back!

      • yahtzeebutterfly says:

        From Tim Wise’s article “The Heritage of Hate: Dylan Roof, White Supremacy and the Truth About the Confederacy” :

        But now, and let us be clear on this point: it is time for the rest of us to finish that war, once and for all. It is time to bury the Confederacy and everything for which it stood; to destroy for all time the white supremacist culture that Dylann Roof and his compatriots so cherish; and this time, completely and without pardon.

        Not by violence, not by retribution, and not by exchanging hate for hate; rather, we must destroy the culture and system of white supremacy by our resistance to its logic, our opposition to its policies, and our insistence that we can and must do better.

        We who are white must end white supremacy by our actions of solidarity with our black and brown brothers and sisters, and on behalf of racial equity; by our refusal to remain silent, to collaborate, to put up with the racism of our friends, family or colleagues for even one more second. We must end white supremacy by showing up to insist that Black Lives Matter, not merely as an aspirational slogan but a moral principle, and that we who are white will defend that principle and the principle of multiracial democracy with our voices, our money, our bodies and even our lives if need be.

        The next Reconstruction must be permanent.


  35. rikyrah says:

    Pedantic Professor ‏@pedanticprof 6h6 hours ago
    Conflating racism with mental illness absolves society of its responsibility while stigmatizing the mentally ill.

  36. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    Photo by Deray at protest against confederate flag:


    • Liza says:

      My gut feeling is that if we were allowed to see pictures of that crime scene, this whole thing would be over with pretty quickly. There wouldn’t be a Rebel flag left in the entire nation. And a few other things might move along more quickly as well.

      Why have folks got to protest and beg for a dignified response after a massacre? For God’s sake, where is the humanity?

  37. Liza says:

    Website features racist manifesto, photos of Charleston shooting suspect
    Manifesto said author ‘chose Charleston’ because it once had ‘highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country’
    June 20, 2015 12:00PM ET
    by Massoud Hayoun @mhayoun Google+

    A website, LastRhodesian.com, features what appear to be pictures of Dylann Roof, the 21-year-old suspect in this week’s deadly shooting at a historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina, and an unsigned racist manifesto explaining why the writer “chose Charleston.”
    In the pictures, Roof is shown posing with a gun, posing with the Confederate flag, posing with statues of what appear to be slaves at some sort of museum, stepping on the American flag, burning the American flag and wearing a jacket decorated with the flags of Apartheid-era South Africa and white minority-ruled Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe.

    “I was not raised in a racist home or environment,” the manifesto states. But the writer says that the Trayvon Martin case awakened a sense of political awareness. “White people are being murdered daily in the streets,” it continues. The manifesto, written in plain text on one unadorned web page, continues with several paragraphs describing the writer’s opinions of various communities in the United States, including African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Jews and Hispanics.

    The website features multiple images and references to films on white supremacy, including American History X, a 1998 blockbuster featuring Edward Norton as a reforming white supremacist.
    It concludes with a section alluding to the writer’s motivations for actions, although without specifying what those actions are. “I see all this stuff going on, and I don’t see anyone doing anything about it. And it pisses me off,” the author wrote, quoting “American History X.”

    “Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me,” the website states. “I have no choice. I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country.”

    http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/6/20/website-features-racist-manifesto-photos-of-charleston-shooting-suspect.html http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/6/20/website-features-racist-manifesto-photos-of-charleston-shooting-suspect.html

    • Liza says:


      • Dylann Roof searched the historical significance of Emanuel AME
        He went to kill black people
        He wanted to start civil war
        He assassinated a STATE SENATOR
        How is that NOT political, FBI?

        There is an enemy within and that’s why George Zimmerman and Darren Wilson AREN’T in prison.

  38. Liza says:

    Relatives blame the Internet for Dylann’s act of terrorism.

    Jun 20 2015, 4:29 pm ET

    Charleston Church Shooter Dylann Roof Was Loner Caught in ‘Internet Evil’: Family
    by Erin Calabrese and Elisha Fieldstadt

    Long before police say Dylann Roof massacred nine people at a Charleston, South Carolina, church this week, his relatives recall he was a “sweet kid” who grew into a “painfully shy” loner.

    But along the way, they told NBC News, he became ensnared by something sinister online.

    “He was locked in his room looking up bad stuff on his computer,” Roof’s ex-stepmother, Paige Mann, said Saturday from her home in Chapin, South Carolina. “Something on the computer drew him in — this is Internet evil.”

    Mann described her former stepson as “very smart — too smart,” and said that he was “bored in advanced classes” in school.

    Mann and Roof’s father, Ben, are divorced, but she said they were both concerned about him and urged him to get a job.

    But the family didn’t see warning signs that he would commit such a brutal act, mostly because Roof was a “sweet kid,” Mann said. She said she released a childhood photo of Roof to NBC News because “I just want to show you that he had a good family.”

    “I never imagined he’d have anything bad in his heart toward people,” Mann’s mother, Patricia Hastings, told NBC News.

    “Ben comes from a very good family, very well-educated, from church-going, God-loving people who would never condone or teach this to their children. I don’t know when Dylann got lost,” Hastings said, adding that the family is getting death threats.


  39. rikyrah says:

    fire tom friedman @firetomfriedman
    4 million professional reporters covering Charleston and Dylann Roof’s manifesto found by @HenryKrinkIe & @EMQuangel http://lastrhodesian.com/data/documents/rtf88.txt

  40. rikyrah says:

    just an observation from BJ

    Hal says:

    June 20, 2015 at 9:45 am

    Very interesting to me that several white friends who were filled to the brim with opinions on social media, particularly Facebook, in the cases of Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, Freddie Grey and Michael Brown amongst others, have no opinion on the Charleston murders. Not a peep.

    I guess when you can’t accuse Al Sharpton of just trying to make white people look bad, as one friend of a friend said, it’s just not as interesting.

    • majiir says:

      I found the same thing on my local newspaper posting about this race-based terrorist massacre—-crickets. Now, these are the same individuals who never miss an opportunity to talk ugly about young black males when they commit any crime. They blame PBO and every black person in the nation, then they go on to speak as if they’re in his family and disrespect his mom and other relatives, and they always say the guy has an absentee dad. They even even stoop so low as to make fun of the guy’s name. They aren’t saying a d*mn thing about Dylann Roof. Methinks some mystical fairy visited them Wednesday night and put superglue between their lips and between their fingers, making it impossible for them to type anything about him on social media boards. Strange folks, they are, and they’re cowards, too because none of them have the courage to break ranks and condemn Roof.

  41. rikyrah says:

    sigh…still think voting is ‘respectability politics?’


  42. rikyrah says:

    comment from BJ:

    Germy Shoemangler says:

    June 20, 2015 at 1:32 pm

    The unemployed high school dropout with the vacant stare of a mole rat and an Ish Kabibble haircut thought blacks had low IQs, and so he shot a group of successful, college-educated black people.

    He should be locked up and forced to endure what Kalief Browder (an innocent man) suffered.

  43. rikyrah says:

    uh huh

    uh huh

    so much for it being part of a long cherished history


  44. rikyrah says:

    Ruler of New Wakanda ‏@insanityreport 1h1 hour ago
    he grew up in an abusive household. So what? He didnt kill his family. He killed black people. We ain’t have shit to do with his upbringing

    • rikyrah says:

      Ruler of New Wakanda ‏@insanityreport 36m36 minutes ago
      That’s why they’re always asking us to remain calm in these situations knowing they wouldn’t do the same if it was them

  45. rikyrah says:

    Take Down the Confederate Flag—Now

    The flag that Dylann Roof embraced, which many South Carolinians embrace, endorses the violence he committed.

    Ta-Nehisi Coates

    Jun 18, 2015

  46. rikyrah says:

    Just got back home..

    So…..it took TWITTER FOLKS to find the terrorist’s manifesto…

    Isn’t that interesting….

    Uh huh.

    UH HUH.

    I’ll ask these questions again…

    HOW did he get the murder weapon?

    WHAT was his employment?

    HOW did he get a car?

    HOW did he get the money to put gas in the tank?

    WHAT does his family do?

    Tamir Rice was a 12 year old BOY and they investigated HIS FATHER….

    But, somehow, NOTHING on this TERRORIST’S FAMILY?

    UH HUH

    UH HUH

  47. Oh he’s a victim now?

    Lying liar–> Dylann Roof’s says he is getting threats from the Black Panther Party.


  48. Kurtis Cook, y’all!

  49. Ametia says:

    So CNNis now claiming the website photo APPEAR to be Dylann Roof, when they actually are this murdering nut job.

  50. In an hour, a church changes forever


    It almost didn’t happen

    As he wheels his dark 2000 Hyundai Elantra into the church’s parking lot, Dylann Storm Roof has no way of knowing that the building might well have been empty had members canceled the Bible study.

    His only hint is the handful of cars scattered about the large lot as the sky glows from the setting evening sun.

    At 8:16 p.m., Roof points his car into a space reserved for handicapped access and parks as close as he can to the church’s street-level meeting and office area. He wears a long-sleeved grey shirt and dark pants, even though temperatures soar into the 90s.

    A half-minute later, he reaches for a handle to an elegant wooden side door, which leads to the Bible study room. It is left unlocked to welcome members and strangers alike.

    He steps into the Bible study session and its dozen attendees, including much of the church’s clergy.

    A 21-year-old white man, he is slight of frame and wears his hair in a bowl cut. He stands out. But to some gathered, he simply looks clean-cut and seems decent, almost shy.

    Besides, in the AME Church, all people are welcomed with love, embraced by its members.

    Saying little else, Roof asks who the minister is. When told that Pinckney, 41, is the church’s head pastor, Roof sits near him at a round table.

    The group invites the guest to join their study of Mark 4: verses 16 to 20. “Others, like seed sown on rocky places, hear the word and at once receive it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away.”

    The killing begins

    About 9 p.m., the Bible study concludes. As the group prepares to share a concluding prayer, Roof suddenly stands, pulls out a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol and says he has come to kill black people.

    He shoots the Rev. Pinckney first, at near point-blank range. Simmons tries to protect the pastor, a father of two young children, but Roof shoots him multiple times, too.

    As Roof unloads his gun into the remaining people who had welcomed him, they fall from wounds or to avoid being shot, first Coleman-Singleton, a 45-year-old church pastor and track coach at Goose Creek High School, then Thompson and on and on.

    Somehow, Felicia Sanders remains composed enough to pull her 5-year-old granddaughter down with her and whispers: play dead. The two lie on the cold floor covered in the spilled, warm blood of their friends and family.

    Sanders feels the heat of each gun blast, hears the clank of casings echoing onto the hard tile and struggles to hold utterly still, even as Roof stops to reload.

    Her son, 26-year-old Tywanza Sanders, tries to take advantage of the halt in gunfire to calm Roof and talk him out of more bloodshed.

    But Roof replies that he’s there to do a job — and he must finish it. He shoots Sanders, then the rest, including Susie Jackson, a beloved aunt who Sanders couldn’t save with his final, most desperate words. At 87, she is the oldest worshipper there.

    All of the dead and dying suffer multiple gunshot wounds.

    As Roof starts out of the building, he passes Polly Sheppard, who is on her knees praying and has somehow avoided his rampage so far.

    He asks her if she’s shot. She says no.

    “I am going to let you live so you can tell the story of what happened,” Roof says, telling her he plans to kill himself.

    With Felicia Sanders and her granddaughter still pretending to be dead, with Sheppard still alive, Roof returns to the church door, looks both ways as he opens it and climbs into his car and leaves.

    It’s about 9:15, one hour after he arrived.

    Two others also survive, unseen by Roof, locked in the Rev. Pinckney’s office: the pastor’s wife, Jennifer Pinckney, and one of their young daughters.

    Shock and the aftermath

    After police arrive, the survivors are sent to the Embassy Suites Hotel across Meeting Street, some sobbing, some far too stunned to react. Soon 200 to 300 family, friends and clergy gather.

    Sheppard scrolls through the contacts on Ethel Lance’s cellphone — picked up after the shootings — until she sees one she recognizes. It is Willi Glee. At 74, he’s long served in the church on its history and archives committee.

    “He killed everybody,” she says. “They’re all dead.”

  51. Liza says:

    Shaun King

    Can we be honest?
    We have Two America’s.
    One fictional and great in every way.
    The other, the real America – violent & racist from DAY 1
    10:48 AM – 19 Jun 2015

  52. Liza says:

    Lindsey Graham says being Confederate loser racists is just part of who we are, y'all http://t.co/7ZTYkPHxvg pic.twitter.com/A6rpTzMMjL— Wonkette (@Wonkette) June 19, 2015

  53. Austin representing!

  54. Mavis Staples sings acoustic rendition of ‘We Shall Overcome’

  55. Liza says:

    No discernible reaction from Dylann Roof throughout the hearing, or while the family members spoke. I wonder if he ever saw this outcome in his grand fantasies.

    And then there’s the judge, thinking he is making this profound statement about Charleston and how we must recognize that the young man’s family are also victims, never expecting this whirlwind or some such nonsense. And what appears to be his own racial bias from a previous case is already out there. They need to replace him.

    Whenever these shootings occur, and it’s pretty damn often, I have yet to consider the killer’s family among the victims. How are they victims?

  56. These are the victims that lost their lives in the Charleston Shooting.

    Charleston shooting victims 2

  57. No Judge in America has considered Muslims families as victims after their loved one has murdered. I see you AmeriKKKa!

    • eliihass says:

      Families of black victims are considered enablers and poor role models who contributed to the dysfunction of their child; And Muslim families are considered suspects, persons of interest and co-conspirators.

    • Ametia says:

      Lemme guess, that judge falls in the ‘RED NECK’ category. BE GONE DEVIL!

  58. How is Dylann Roof family a victim? He’s 21 yrs old. Who the hell do you think taught him THAT HATE? They nurtured it.

    • Ametia says:

      SG2, these racist MOFOs will use every trick in the book imaginable to hold on to that narrow, fearful, mindset of white superiority.

      DENIAL should be classified as a CRIME.

  59. God help us. The Judge in DylanRoof bond hearing poured SALT IN THE WOUNDS bringing up the terrorist family as victims.

    • Liza says:

      That was so inappropriate, cruel, and heartless for the judge to say that. He is tone deaf to what is going on here, or is that what he’s trying to do, rub salt in the wounds. This judge should be removed, his history is out there, he has no credibility right at the start. They need to get rid of him, appoint someone else.

    • Ametia says:


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