Thursday Open Thread | Holiday Music

christmas candles 77Carol of the Bells” is a popular Americanized version of a Ukrainian Christmas carol. It is a choral work by Ukrainian composer Mykola Leontovych as “Shchedryk and translated, or rather, adapted to English by Peter J Wilhousky who wrote and Americanized the lyrics. Leontovych’s composition was in turn, set to the words of an ancient Ukrainian carol performed during the celebration of the New Year.

The song is recognized by a four-note ostinato motif (see image to the right). It is a holiday favorite throughout the English-speaking world, having been arranged hundreds of times for different genres, styles of singing and settings. For example, it was been covered by artists and groups of many genres: classical, jazz, rock, and pop. It has also been featured in films, television shows, and parodies.

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91 Responses to Thursday Open Thread | Holiday Music

  1. Ametia says:

    ok, seriously THO

    The Neuroscience Behind Why White Cops Kill Black Men

    Studies may shed some light on why white police officers who aren’t consciously racist are quick to pull the trigger on black men.

    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/neuroscience-behind-why-white-cops-kill-black-men

  2. At Dr office seeing about my eye

  3. Liza says:

    Time for a mad face. But this baby is so adorable that you stop being mad.

  4. Ametia says:

    http://dnain.fo/1Q3p3hE

    Video of Police Shooting Ronnie Johnson Will Be Released Next Week: Rahm

    CHICAGO — The city will soon release a dashcam video showing an officer shooting and killing Ronald Johnson in 2014, Mayor Rahm Emanuel said.

    Johnson, who was 25, was shot and killed by police on Oct. 12, 2014, just days before Laquan McDonald was also killed by an officer. A dashcam video showing McDonald’s slaying has generated controversy throughout the city, with protests breaking out and Supt. Garry McCarthy being fired by Emanuel.

    http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151203/bronzeville/video-showing-police-shooting-killing-ronnie-johnson-be-released-rahm

  5. rikyrah says:

    Once I found out that he worked with the folks that were shot, sadly, I just filed this under ‘ Post Office Rampage.’
    You can miss me about him being ‘ radicalized’.
    This was just a workplace shooting, the only difference is that his wife joined him in the Bonnie & Clyde killing spree.

    • Ametia says:

      TELL

      IT

      The victims always get lost in the sauce, because America cannot & will NOT come to grips with its UGLY, UNEQUAL, UNJUST, WHITE SUPREMACTISTS VIEWS on anyone who is NON-WHITE

  6. rikyrah says:

    Rewatching Downton Abbey in preparation for the beginning of the final season. Just got finished with Sybil’s death – still gets me to bawl everytime I watch it.

    • Ametia says:

      I want to go one step father with this premise.

      I totally believe in arming and protecting oneself, black white, green or yellow!

      Black folks have the same second amendment rights as any white American

      The issue is white folks VIEW BLACK BODIES AS WEAPONS.

      PERIOD

  7. Ametia says:

    Obama To Give Statement From The Oval Office

    He’s speaking after meeting with his national security team.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-oval-office-statement_56606104e4b079b2818d665d

  8. rikyrah says:

    ‘Pressure Point’ – Sidney Poitier’s Overlooked “Roots of Racism” Drama – Coming to Blu-Ray/DVD in Feb.
    By Sergio | Shadow and Act

    December 2, 2015 at 12:45PM

    Like a lot of actors from the Golden Age of Hollywood, Sidney Poitier’s movie career is made of popular hits, some box office flops, a really bad film here and there, and, from time to time, some little-known, overlooked or forgotten films that deserve a second or even a third look.

    One of those films is the 1962 drama “Pressure Point,” produced by Stanley Kramer, who later went on to direct one of Poitier’s most popular films, such as “The Defiant Ones” and “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner.” “Pressure Point” was directed by the truly unique Hubert Cornfield, the son of a movie studio executive, who was a close friend of the French directors of the New Wave of the 1960’s, such as François Truffaut and Jean-Luc Goddard. Cornfield directed only six films in his career, from the mid-1950’s to late 1960’s, of which “Pressure Point,” and his very strange 1969 thriller, “Night of the Following Day” with Marlon Brando, are his two best films. He later directed a lot of French TV during the 1970’s before leaving directing for good.

    But “Pressure Point” is truly something else. Very unusual and quite daring for its time, the film actually is just as relevant today as when it came out, and perhaps even more so. A lot of films have dealt with racism, but what films you can name that focus on the causes of it?

    http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/sidney-poitiers-overlooked-film-on-the-roots-of-racism-pressure-point-coming-out-on-blu-ray-dvd-in-feb-20151202

  9. rikyrah says:

    “I’m Not Black. I’m O.J.” – Watch Full Trailer for ‘American Crime Story: The People v. O.J. Simpson’

    By Tambay A. Obenson | Shadow and Act

    December 2, 2015 at 2:56PM

    The FX network has announced a Tuesday, February 2 at 10 PM ET/PT premiere date for Ryan Murphy’s “American Crime Story: The People v. O.J. Simpson,” which will unfold over a 10-episode first season (“American Crime Story” will be a new franchise, just like “American Horror Story”). It is based on the book “The Run of His Life: The People v. O.J. Simpson” by Jeffrey Toobin, which provides audiences with a look at the O.J. Simpson trial told from the perspective of the lawyers that explored the chaotic behind-the-scenes dealings and maneuvering on both sides of the court, and how a combination of prosecution confidence, defense wiliness, and the LAPD’s history with the city’s black community gave a jury what it needed: reasonable doubt.

    So this is much less about the actual crime itself, as the story takes place after their murders (the court trial that followed), and there will be no flashbacks.

    Cuba Gooding Jr. plays O.J., while Sarah Paulson is prosecutor Marcia Clark, Courtney B. Vance plays the late Johnny Cochran, David Schwimmer is Robert Kardashian, John Travolta plays Robert Shapiro, and Billy Magnussen as Kato Kaelin.

    http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/im-not-black-im-oj-watch-full-trailer-for-american-crime-story-the-people-v-oj-simpson-20151202

  10. rikyrah says:

    Ta-Nehisi Coates Shares Early Concept Art for His Black Panther Comic + Writing Process

    By Tambay A. Obenson | Shadow and Act

    December 2, 2015 at 6:52PM

    In September, it was announced that Ta-Nehisi Coates will be penning a Black Panther comic book issue for Marvel – news that was met with much excitement from fans of the superhero, fans of Coates (even if they weren’t fans of Black Panther), and really just about everybody else it seemed. It was the kind of announcement that was almost universally welcomed, and I assume many are thus looking forward to seeing what Coates brings to the comic book franchise.

    You’ll be tickled to learn that, today, in a piece on The Atlantic titled “Conceptualizing the Black Panther,” Coates shares his early ideas for the upcoming comic, including a look at illustrator Brian Stelfreeze’s art for the series, which I embedded below.

    http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/ta-nehisi-coates-shares-early-concept-art-for-his-black-panther-comic-20151202

  11. Ametia says:

    So the San Bernadino killers are not WHITE, but American. Now they are considering TERRORISM

    • Well, remember the FBI first thought they may be white and said…they’re not terrorists, they’re American. I can’t with the FBI or Loretta Lynch. Pretty much put out with them both.

    • Ametia says:

      Yes; that’s why they went DRIP, DRIP, DRIP, with their news conferences. Parsing out crumbs until they constructed their story. Wanted to make sure the shooters were not WHITE, before they put out their NARRATIVE.

      Note at first it was ‘suspects, shooters, gunmen’ etc, now they can get out the “MUSLIM/TERRORISTS angles.

    • Liza says:

      Yeah, this one is going to be tough unless some living person knows what these people were up to. It’s like they had all this terrorist gear stashed away, perhaps intending to be terrorists, but the guy got pissed off at his Christmas party and decided to kill those folks instead. It’s very strange.

  12. rikyrah says:

    Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel Is Throwing Anyone Within Arm’s Reach Under the Bus
    He’s determined that someone else will go down for the city’s mishandling of the Laquan McDonald shooting.
    BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
    DEC 3, 2015 @ 10:28 AM

    Over the past two decades or so, I’ve decided that there is no more inexcusable a figure in our national politics than Rahm Emanuel, who is, for the moment, the mayor of Chicago, but also someone who, throughout his entire career, has made it quite clear that he believes political power derives from being as much of a dick as possible to the people who ostensibly are on your side. He is angry and profane, but he also remains utterly graceless and completely without charm. He alienated enough people while he was working for Bill Clinton that his tenure in the White House was shorter than it would have been otherwise. In 2006, when Howard Dean’s 50-state strategy delivered the Democratic Party a whopping victory in the midterm elections, he climbed over the people who did the real work to claim credit for the landslide. (And he succeeded: he is what passes in the political elite for a “tough guy” because he says “fuck” a lot. Google “Rahm Emanuel 2006” sometime.)

    He was insufferable as a member of the House of Representatives, where the standards are designed by the Constitution to be pretty damned high. His hiring as White House chief-of-staff was probably the worst personnel mistake the Obama Administration made in its early days. As mayor of Chicago, he’s managed to be so horrible to the city’s public school teachers that a couple of them went on hunger strike. He got re-elected because he strategically has not been a dick to anyone who would contribute a fat check to his campaigns. Now, though, he has his ass in a crack because the Chicago Police Department is running amok (again), and it looks like Emanuel put his re-election prospects ahead of telling the parents of Laquan McDonald how their son came to get shot 16 times by a Chicago patrolman.

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a40161/rahm-emanuel-laquan-mcdonald/

    • Liza says:

      Thank you, Charles P. Pierce. Well said. I have no idea why Rahm Emanuel thinks he can survive as mayor, but I certainly hope he doesn’t.

  13. rikyrah says:

    A Fresh Set of Official Images from Sundance-Bound Barack & Michelle in ‘Before Sunset’-Style Romance, ‘Southside With You’

    By Tambay A. Obenson | Shadow and Act

    December 2, 2015 at 5:13PM

    Here are new official images from “Southside With You,” the project that is being sold as a “Before Sunset”-style film (in short… man, woman, lots of mostly profound conversation over a specified period of time), which takes place entirely in one day, set during the summer of 1989, when one Barack Obama (then a first-year Harvard Law student) took his future wife, Michelle Robinson (an associate at a Chicago law firm), out on a first date, which included a tour of Chicago’s South Side.

    The future couple also caught a screening of Spike Lee’s “Do the Right Thing” – something the president has talked about previously. I assume that moment in time will be incorporated into the script.

    The film, which is directed by Richard Tanne, from his own screenplay (co-developed with co-star of the film Tika Sumpter), will make its world premiere at the 2016 Sundance Film Festival next month, in Park City, UT.

    http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/a-fresh-set-of-official-images-from-sundance-bound-barack-michelle-in-before-sunset-style-romance-southside-with-you-20151202

  14. Liza says:

    San Bernardino Shootings: What We Know, One Day After
    Updated December 3, 201510:19 AM ETSan Bernardino Shootings: What We Know, One Day After

    After a mass shooting, a police chase and a shootout, a violent day in San Bernardino, Calif., ended in the death of two suspects, authorities say.

    Syed Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, were responsible for the Wednesday morning attack that killed at least 14 people and injured 17, according to San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan. After initial concerns that there could have been a third shooter, police are now confident there were only two.

    There’s much that remains unclear, including the motives of the shooters and the identities of the victims. But briefings from police reveal an hours-long timeline of events:

    The Suspects

    Syed Farook, an environmental specialist who was born in the U.S., has worked for the San Bernardino County health department for five years.

    Tashfeen Malik was Farook’s wife, says Hussam Ayloush of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. Malik was born in Pakistan and lived in Saudi Arabia before she married Farook about two years ago, according to Ayloush.

    The couple had a 6-month-old daughter, whom they left with Farook’s mother on the morning of the attack, Ayloush says.

    The Shooting

    The attack began on Wednesday morning, at an office holiday party in the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino. The center provides social services to residents with developmental disabilities, but the shooting was focused on an office party for San Bernardino County staff.

    As a county employee, Farook was at the party. At some point he left in anger, Burguan says.

    He returned with Malik.

    Both were dressed in tactical gear and carrying .223-caliber assault-style rifles, semiautomatic handguns and explosive devices, police say, when they entered the Inland Regional Center and opened fire.

    The weapons used in the shooting were legally purchased, law enforcement officials tell NPR’s Carrie Johnson.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/12/03/458277103/san-bernardino-shootings-what-we-know-one-day-after

  15. rikyrah says:

    Teyonah Parris Delivers a Monologue That Gets to the Core of ‘Chi-Raq’s’ Message in New Clip from the Film
    By Tambay A. Obenson | Shadow and Act

    December 2, 2015 at 8:03PM

    Two days to go! Spike Lee’s much-discussed next joint, “Chi-Raq,” will be released this Friday, December 4, courtesy of Amazon Studios – their first in-house feature film, in a deal that involves both Roadside Attractions and Lionsgate (noteworthy, as both have previously teamed up on prestige film fare).

    The film’s solid cast includes rising star Teyonah Parris and multihyphenate and Nick Cannon, as well as lauded veterans like Angela Bassett, Samuel L. Jackson, John Cusack, Harry Lennix, Steve Harris, Wesley Snipes, and D.B. Sweeney. Singer/actress Jennifer Hudson also features.

    “Chi-Raq” is a modern day adaptation of the ancient Greek play “Lysistrata” by Aristophanes. After the murder of a child by a stray bullet, a group of women led by Lysistrata (played by Parris) organize against the on-going violence in Chicago’s Southside, creating a movement that challenges the nature of race, sex and violence in America and around the world

    http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/teyonah-parris-delivers-a-monologue-that-gets-to-the-core-of-chi-raqs-message-in-new-clip-from-the-film-20151202

  16. rikyrah says:

    Sikh woman ordered to show breast pump after fellow passenger suspects she may be a terrorist
    03 Dec 2015 at 09:32 ET

    A Sikh woman said she was asked to show her breast pump to fellow passengers on a Delta Air Lines flight to prove she wasn’t a terrorist.

    Valerie Kaur, an attorney and filmmaker who regularly appears on MSNBC, said she was waiting to board a flight to Los Angeles when she removed the luggage tag on her carry-on bag, where she kept her breast pump.

    “The passenger behind me raised his voice,” Kaur wrote on her Facebook page. “I turned around. He was a white man and his face was angry. He asked why I removed the tag. I offered to explain but he said he didn’t want to know.”

    She said the man instead raised his suspicions with other passengers in line, and an “alarmed and angered” gate agent questioned her.

    “I explained that I was a nursing mother, but she still didn’t let me board with my bag,” Kaur said. “Her face was just as angry. I had to pull out the breast pump to show her. Only then was I allowed to take my seat. All the passengers in first class watched and I smiled weakly to show them I wasn’t a terrorist.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/sikh-woman-ordered-to-show-breast-pump-after-fellow-passenger-suspects-she-may-be-a-terrorist/

  17. rikyrah says:

    OH WELL..

    shrug.

    you built it. you keep him.

    …………..

    The one sentence that shows how worried Senate Republicans are about Donald Trump

    By Amber Phillips December 3 at 7:30 AM

    “If he carries this message into the general election in Ohio, we’ll hand this election to Hillary Clinton — and then try to salvage the rest of the ticket.”

    That’s a quote from Matt Borges, chairman of the Republican Party in Ohio. He’s just one of several Republican operatives who recently told Jonathan Martin of the New York Times just how concerned they are that Republicans’ chances of keeping a hold of the U.S. Senate are inversely related to Donald Trump’s chances of getting the nomination.

    Borges is in the thick of that right now. He’s trying to keep Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) in office in what is already a competitive reelection race in a presidential battleground state.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/03/the-one-sentence-that-shows-how-worried-senate-republicans-are-about-donald-trump/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b

  18. rikyrah says:

    Is it Almost 1972, Again?
    by BooMan
    Thu Dec 3rd, 2015 at 01:56:17 AM EST

    In March 1974, The Atlantic published a lengthy essay by David Broder who was then at the height of his reportorial powers. The topic was the status of the Democratic Party and its prospects for success in the upcoming midterms and particularly the 1976 election. At the time this piece was published, Nixon was still president but he was so mortally wounded that a Ford presidency was treated as a given. As it turned out, Nixon wouldn’t resign for another five months.

    It’s somewhat interesting to see how Broder’s projections turned out, and they weren’t too bad. He only briefly mentioned Jimmy Carter, but he did so to point out that he (along with Govs. Dale Bumpers of Arkansas and Reubin Eskew of Florida) was a more promising prospect than any of the senators (Scoop Jackson, Muskie, McGovern, Humphrey, Walter F. Mondale, Lloyd Bentsen, and Birch Bayh) whose names were bandied about as potential nominees.

    Far more interesting, however, is Broder’s deep analysis of what lay behind the Democrats’ defeats in 1968 and 1972, and how they had reacted and organized in the aftermath of McGovern’s epic defeat.

    Before I go further, I need to contextualize this a little bit. The reason I am looking at the history of the Democratic Party in this time period is because I think the Republicans are in a similar situation right now. To be more precise, though, today for the Republicans is a lot like December 1971 for the Democrats. Things don’t mesh precisely here, but bear with me.

    In December 1971, the Democrats had lost a devastating election three years earlier and were on the cusp of getting wiped out in an electoral drubbing of historic proportions. Their great hope was Senator Ed Muskie of Maine who had lined up the establishment’s support.

    Now, I am going to ask you to look for contemporary parallels in the following excerpt from Broder’s analysis of what went wrong at the Democratic National Convention of 1972. Here Broder is explaining both why McGovern got to the convention in the strongest position and why his opponents were unable to derail him.

    But the key to the 1972 convention result lay, not in rules manipulations, but in two independent factors, as peculiar in their way as the accidents that befell Kennedy and McCarthy in 1968.

    One was the collapse of Edmund Muskie, the front-runner for the nomination and the consequent derailment of the vehicle on which most of the party regulars and elected officials had expected to ride to Miami Beach. No one in modern political history has dissipated as many assets as rapidly as did Muskie in the winter and spring of 1972.

    The other key factor was the inability of George Meany to pick a candidate to back in the early going. Facing a divided AFL-CIO executive board, Meany declined to choose among Muskie, Humphrey, and Henry (“Scoop”) Jackson. Not until the California primary, when it was too late, did the AFL-CIO come in full force behind Humphrey, and it nearly turned the tide.

    Even with the handicaps of Muskie’s collapse and labor’s indecision, the “regulars” very nearly triumphed. The key vote of the convention, on the California credentials challenge, was decided by only 173 votes–hardly evidence that the losers had been excluded.

    Now, substitute the name Jeb Bush for Ed Muskie and substitute the Republican Party’s establishment (elected officials and financiers) for George Meany and “the regulars.”

    In this scenario, George McGovern would be replaced by Ted Cruz or Donald Trump or maybe even Ben Carson. I know that’s not a kind comparison to make because McGovern was a better man and a better candidate than these Republican “irregulars.” But the comparison still works because we’re looking at rifts between establishment candidates and candidates powered by party activists and populist anti-establishment dissatisfaction.

    In 1971-72, the Democratic establishment’s great hope was Ed Muskie. He was “the vehicle on which most of the party regulars and elected officials had expected to ride to” the national convention. Yet, he rapidly dissipated all his assets in a way that looked all but unprecedented.

    Does that not almost perfectly describe Jeb Bush’s campaign so far?

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2015/12/3/15617/8785

  19. rikyrah says:

    Victoria Rowell @victoriarowell
    Another reason to watch “A Baby For Christmas,” Dec. 13 On UPtv — proudly Malinda Williams, Kristoff St. John & I were Executive Producers.

  20. rikyrah says:

    ‘Misguided missile’: A GOP strategist’s private advice on a Trump nomination
    December 2 at 3:20 PM

    Donald Trump has become such a force in the Republican Party that the official overseeing next year’s Senate races has proposed a delicate strategy for GOP candidates: Tap into Trumpism without mimicking Trump.

    In a seven-page confidential memo that imagines Trump as the party’s presidential nominee, the head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee urges candidates to adopt many of Trump’s tactics, issues and approaches — right down to adjusting the way they dress and how they use Twitter.
    ………………

    In the memo on “the Trump phenomenon,” NRSC Executive Director Ward Baker said Republicans should embrace Trump’s tough talk about China and “grab onto the best elements of [his] anti-Washington populist agenda.” Above all, they should appeal to voters as genuine and beyond the influence of special interests.

    “Trump has risen because voters see him as authentic, independent, direct, firm, — and believe he can’t be bought,” Baker writes. “These are the same character traits our candidates should be advancing in 2016. That’s Trump lesson #1.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/private-memo-lays-out-how-the-gop-would-deal-with-trump-as-its-nominee/2015/12/02/78514cba-9909-11e5-94f0-9eeaff906ef3_story.html

  21. rikyrah says:

    The new Nat Turner Movie is called:

    The Birth of a Nation

    BWA HA HA HA HA HA H AH HA HA

    A whole lotta 2520’s about to get in their feelings.

    http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/first-look-at-nate-parkers-nat-turner-film-the-birth-of-a-nation-20151202

  22. rikyrah says:

    Will they send him to jail, that’s the question

    ……………

    ‘Blade Runner’ Pistorius found guilty of murder on appeal

    BLOEMFONTEIN, Dec 3 (Reuters) – South Africa’s “Blade Runner” Oscar Pistorius was found guilty on Thursday of murdering his girlfriend, in an appeal court ruling that could see him sent back to prison for up to 15 years.

    The Supreme Court upgraded the 29-year-old Paralympian’s sentence on appeal to murder from “culpable homicide”, for which he had received a five-year sentence.

    Pistorius was released on parole on Oct. 19, having spent one day less than a year in prison for shooting dead model Reeva Steenkamp on Valentine’s Day 2013. He was meant to serve the rest of his sentence under house arrest.

    The athlete, known for the carbon fibre prosthetic blades he uses when running, will be sentenced for the new murder conviction by a lower court at a date still to be determined.

    It is likely his lawyers could argue that his physical disability and mental stress should be considered as mitigating circumstances.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/blade-runner-pistorius-found-guilty-of-murder-on-appeal/ar-AAfYaxl?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=HPCDHP

  23. rikyrah says:

    Eyewitness News ✔ @ABC7NY
    #BREAKING 5 elementary school kids arrested after allegedly trying to blow up Clifton High School
    http://7ny.tv/1TxunrZ

  24. rikyrah says:

    MEDIA ALERT:

    THE WIZ, LIVE
    Tonight, 8pm EST!

  25. rikyrah says:

    I done read it all.

    They stole a PHUCKING CABIN?

    …………………..

    Cabin fever? Log cabin in Wildwood disappears, St. Louis County police investigating

    By Valerie Schremp Hahn, Samantha Liss

    The Essen log cabin at 822 Highway 109 in Wildwood. Somebody disassembled and took the cabin sometime between Nov. 24 and 29, and St. Louis County Police are trying to figure out what happened. (Photo from the city of Wildwood.)

    A historic log cabin in Wildwood has gone missing, and St. Louis County Police are investigating.

    Sometime between Nov. 24 and 29, someone disassembled and carted off the pieces of the cabin off Highway 109 just south of Eatherton Road in Wildwood. The family who owned it had planned to donate the cabin to the city for use as a historic attraction.

    St. Louis County Police spokesman Brian Schellman said the cabin could barely be seen from the highway.
    “It’s pretty secluded, where, if nobody’s paying attention, you can probably get a big truck in there and do all this,” he said. “You’re not talking about a pickup truck moving it.”

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/cabin-fever-log-cabin-in-wildwood-disappears-st-louis-county/article_8ddd7ce8-7a90-5467-a10d-5c7779608747.html

  26. rikyrah says:

    GOP presidential candidates voice growing support for torture
    12/02/15 10:40 AM—UPDATED 12/02/15 11:09 AM
    By Steve Benen
    Jeb Bush isn’t prepared to rule out the restoration of torture policies used by his brother’s administration. Ben Carson has adopted a similar line. Marco Rubio has also offered some tacit approval of torture policies.

    With each passing week, the number of Republican presidential candidates voicing support for torture grows. Yesterday on MSNBC, for example, Chris Christie was asked if he considers waterboarding to be torture. The governor replied:
    “I don’t believe so. I don’t believe so. And I will tell you that the intelligence officers who conducted that activity were told by the Justice Department that what they were doing was lawful and constitutional. And then you have Barack Obama come in, and Hillary Clinton, and second-guess these people, demean them, and kill their morale.”
    Even for Christie, this is genuinely bizarre. In his mind, the White House hurt intelligence agencies’ feelings by banning torture?

    What’s more, as Salon’s Simon Maloy explained, “Putting any sort of faith in the torture memos from the Bush DOJ is not a good look for a would-be commander-in-chief, given that those memos are broadly viewed as a legal atrocity, a ‘perversion of law and logic’ that sought only to apply the thinnest veneer of legality to the Bush administration’s decision to violate the Geneva Conventions…. Christie says he wants to do ‘whatever we need to do to get actionable intelligence that’s within the Constitution,’ but that’s a meaningless statement if you subscribe to the Bush administration’s notion that the Constitution can be unilaterally reinterpreted to justify whatever action you think is necessary.”

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gop-presidential-candidates-voice-growing-support-torture

  27. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    Good Morning :)

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vIuEtsdWOvo/UMftCX6xZ3I/AAAAAAAAACQ/xfTmGdhKkGI/s1600/Carol-of-the-Bells-.jpg

    On, on they send, on without end
    Their joyful tone to every home

  28. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone :)

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