Wednesday Open Thread | Reggae | Michael Rose

Michael+RoseRose started his recording career as a solo artist for record producers Yabby You and Niney the Observer. He joined Black Uhuru in 1977 after the departure of Don Carlos and Garth Dennis. He led them to international success in the early 1980s, having written most of their popular material. They won the first-ever Grammy Award for reggae in 1985 for the album Anthem,[2] with the hallmark voice of Rose in the forefront.

After the release of Anthem, Rose left Black Uhuru and retired to the Blue Mountains in Jamaica to start a coffee farm. He released a string of singles in Jamaica, but nothing much was heard of him outside the island until 1989, when he was signed to RCA and released the strongly pop influenced album Proud in Europe and Japan.

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146 Responses to Wednesday Open Thread | Reggae | Michael Rose

  1. ***************
    Ms Nancy Smash! Go Nancy!

  2. Ametia says:

    Whotthe fuck wants to hear talking heads praise the GOP and try to hold up limp dick Boner.

  3. Yahtc says:

    I NEVER want Congress to play a game of chicken again!!

    They were playing with the lives of all Americans with the Shutdown:

  4. rikyrah says:

    Ametia, SG2:

    have been told that Maddow’s opening segment is blistering and postable video worthy.

    please help.

  5. rikyrah says:

    CarolDuhart (Aquariusmoon)
    October 16, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    Obama apparently has getten a hidden win. The next time, all Obama has to do is send a letter to Congress saying he’s raising the limit-Congress has the option to vote against it, Obama vetoes the no, Congress can override. Apparenlty that’s it.

  6. Yahtc says:

    Live House of Rep. of c-span:

  7. rikyrah says:

    we need the video of the President’s Press Conference tonight

    some descriptions:


    Pres had ended the presser and was walking out when a reporter yelled out “Are you worried that you’ll have to do this again in a few months?” Pres stopped mid strut, turned around with a smirk and said “No.” Then he resumed pimp-strut was went out of the door. It was boss.



    I wish he had said “you wanna take a swing at the king…you best not miss”



    It was glorious particularly because the media is already starting the talking point of “we’re gonna go through this again in February” and Pres just smacked it down with a “Nah, son.”

  8. Cory Booker is winner of the US Senate seat! Go Senator, Booker! Whoo Hoo!

  9. Yahtc says:

    “Senate passes debt deal to end standoff; House to vote soon” – ‎2 minutes ago‎
    By Carrie Dann, Political Reporter, NBC News. With broad bipartisan support, the Senate voted late Wednesday to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling, closing in on an end to the 16-day standoff that put the United States within hours of a …”

  10. Josh says” Mom this Stew is off the chain”. :) He’s so sweet! I invited him over to eat.

  11. Stew is ready! And big pan of cornbread! Yay!

    I warmed the house up with oven heat. *tee hee*

  12. Yahtc says:

    “Separate and Unequal Voting in Arizona and Kansas”
    October 16, 2013
    by Ari Berman

  13. Yahtc says:

    “Ted Cruz says he won’t delay vote on Senate deal”

    WASHINGTON — Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, said Wednesday he will not block a vote on the Senate deal to end the government shutdown that’s also aimed at averting financial catastrophe.

    STORY: Senate reaches deal to end government shutdown

    The Tea Party favorite said he would vote “no” on the deal announced Wednesday by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. But he said he would not delay a final vote on the measure — a key concession if the measure is to reach President Obama’s desk before Thursday’s deadline to raise the debt limit.

    “I’ve never had any intention of delaying the timing of this vote,” Cruz told reporters, saying the outcome would remain the same.

    Cruz’s 21-hour, filibuster-style protest of President Obama’s health care law last month helped contribute to the partial government shutdown. He and Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, were key forces behind a GOP push to tie defunding of the Affordable Care Act to a stopgap spending bill to fund the government.

    Senate Democrats had insisted that the spending measure, known as a continuing resolution, be “clean” and free of restrictions on the health care law. When the House GOP went along with the strategy to rein in the law they deride as Obamacare, that’s when Congress was unable to pass a bill funding the government by Oct. 1, the start of the new fiscal year.

    Cruz made his comments about the deal to reporters, at the same time McConnell was speaking on the Senate floor. He said the deal does nothing to address concerns about the health care law.

    “It appears the Washington establishment is refusing to listen to the American people,” Cruz said. “The deal that has been cut provides no relief to the millions of Americans who are hurting because of Obamacare.”

  14. Ametia says:

    Hat tip Democratic Underground


  15. Yahtc says:

    Harry Belafonte takes Martin Luther King’s heirs to court over documents

  16. Yahtc says:

    Man Paralyzed by Cops Faces 20 Years
    The case of Leon Ford Jr., who was unarmed at the time of the shooting, raises questions about racial profiling

  17. rikyrah says:

    About two weeks ago, as tea partiers in the GOP-controlled House were forcing a government shutdown, some House Democrats sent a private and informal message to House Speaker John Boehner: if you need to break with the die-hard conservatives of your caucus to keep the government running and avoid a debt ceiling crisis, we might be able to try to help you protect your speakership, should far-right Republicans rebel and challenge you. This offer was conveyed to Boehner just as he was entering what has turned into the toughest stretch of his speakership, according to two senior House Democratic lawmakers who each asked not to be identified.

  18. Yahtc says:

    A Chicago Man Threatens to Burn Papers That Belonged to the First Black Harvard Graduate
    He says the school isn’t offering him enough money for the rare paperwork he discovered in an old building.

  19. Ametia says:

    It’s Official: Ronan Farrow to Host MSNBC Show

    Ronan Farrow – the son of Mia Farrow who previously worked as an Obama administration foreign policy official – will host a weekday program on MSNBC beginning early next year. The announcement came Wednesday from MSNBC president Phil Griffin.

    The show, which is likely to launch in mid-January, will be closely aligned with Farrow’s activism. And he told The Hollywood

    during a phone interview on Wednesday that his desire to join a television network was born of conversations he has had with young people who are frustrated with the vituperative immobility in Washington as well as the current state of TV news.

  20. Yahtc says:

    The DuSable Museum of African American History

  21. Ametia says:



    • Ametia says:

      WASHINGTON, DC – House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) released the following statement regarding the bipartisan Senate agreement to reopen the federal government and avoid a national default:

      “The House has fought with everything it has to convince the president of the United States to engage in bipartisan negotiations aimed at addressing our country’s debt and providing fairness for the American people under ObamaCare. That fight will continue. But blocking the bipartisan agreement reached today by the members of the Senate will not be a tactic for us. In addition to the risk of default, doing so would open the door for the Democratic majority in Washington to raise taxes again on the American people and undo the spending caps in the 2011 Budget Control Act without replacing them with better spending cuts. With our nation’s economy still struggling under years of the president’s policies, raising taxes is not a viable option. Our drive to stop the train wreck that is the president’s health care law will continue. We will rely on aggressive oversight that highlights the law’s massive flaws and smart, targeted strikes that split the legislative coalition the president has relied upon to force his health care law on the American people.”
      See more at:

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  23. rikyrah says:

    Heritage Action: Obamacare safe ‘until 2017’

    10/16/13 11:16 AM

    By Steve Benen

    Late yesterday afternoon, House Republican leaders still thought they’d put together a bill that would put Democrats in an awkward spot, while satisfying the far-right. House Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) office vowed a floor vote by the evening.

    But around 5:30 p.m. eastern, Heritage Action, an activist project of the Heritage Foundation think tank, effectively vetoed Boehner’s idea. “Unfortunately, the proposed deal will do nothing to stop Obamacare’s massive new entitlements from taking root – radically changing the nature of American health care,” the group said.

    Soon after, the bill was quietly killed and the entire House Republican offensive collapsed.

    With this in mind, it was interesting to see Michael Needham, the CEO of Heritage Action, on Fox News this morning, offering his assessment of the right’s crusade against the Affordable Care Act. Needham said:

    Well, everybody understands that we’ll not be able to repeal this law until 2017. We have to win the Senate and win the White House.”

  24. rikyrah says:

    Senate deal complete, floor votes on the way

    10/16/13 01:05 PM

    By Steve Benen

    It’s done.

    Senate Democratic and Republican leaders on Wednesday reached final agreement on a deal to reopen the government and extend its borrowing authority into February, with votes in the House and the Senate possibly to begin in the afternoon, according to aides familiar with the negotiations. […]

    A Democratic leader said the current plan was for the Senate to provide the legislative language to the House, get a House vote, and then have the Senate take up the bill, pass it, and perhaps send it to President Obama before the end of the day.

    The order of which chamber goes first may yet change, but the road ahead is no longer in doubt. There were some lingering concerns about whether Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) or other right-wing senators might deliberately delay the vote until after the debt-ceiling deadline, but he and others told reporters this morning that they don’t see the point. Far-right senators could needlessly push off voting on the bill, but they wouldn’t have the votes to defeat it.

  25. Liza says:

    Poor Rielle Hunter, trying so hard to be a grifter but people keep forgetting about her. Well, here she comes again.

    ‘In Hindsight, What Really Happened: The Revised Edition: John Edwards, Our Daughter and Me’

    Rielle Hunter
    Posted: 10/15/2013 10:27 am

    I behaved badly. That may seem obvious to you but it’s taken me a long time to admit that, even to myself. For years I was so viciously attacked by the media and the world that I felt like a victim. I now realize that the attacks are actually beside the point. The point is: I behaved badly.

    I am very sorry for my wrong, selfish behavior. Back in 2006, I did not think about the scope of my actions, how my falling in love with John Edwards, and acting on that love, could hurt so many people. I hurt Elizabeth and her kids. I hurt her family. I hurt John’s family. I hurt people that knew Elizabeth. I hurt people who didn’t know Elizabeth but loved her from afar. I hurt people who gave their hard earned dollars to a campaign — a cause they believed in. I hurt people who are married and believe in marriage. Many of these people have let me know that I hurt them. Unfortunately, I was not thinking about anyone but myself. I was selfish. I fell in love with John Edwards and wanted to be with him and that desire trumped everything else.

    And then instead of apologizing when I should have, I went on to hurt more people by writing a book. I truly did not realize at that time how damaged I was and because of that, when I wrote my book I made more mistakes, ones I feel horrible about.

    My publisher came up with the idea of me going through my book and annotating all of my regrets and mistakes. I liked that idea. I thought it was innovative and interesting, but of course the actual execution of that idea turned out to be excruciating. Owning your past mistakes is no day at the beach but I do believe it is an important endeavor to undertake.

  26. rikyrah says:


    1. President Obama won. For once, he held firm, and it worked.

    2. The G.O.P. lost, and so did the Tea Party. Both saw their approval ratings fall to record lows.

    3. It was a big waste of time.

    4. The United States was also a loser. Its reputation in the eyes of the world was further damaged. U.S. “soft power” took another blow.

    5. Republicans need remedial lessons in game theory. If you aren’t willing to go over the cliff, and your opponent knows that, there’s no point in engaging in brinkmanship.

    6. Ted Cruz is a charlatan. He pushed for a government shutdown and then joined a protest by veterans and Tea Party members against the closure of national monuments.

    7. If anyone has a justification for smoking, it’s John Boehner. Really, wouldn’t you want a Camel Ultra Light if you had his job?

    8. The two-and-a-half-week government shutdown probably reduced quarterly G.D.P. growthby about 0.3 per cent. But much of that loss will be made up when the government re-opens.

    9. Warren Buffett came up with the best quote of the crisis: “Creditworthiness is like virginity. It can be preserved but not restored very easily.”

    10. We get to do it all again in January and February. But next time, we’ll all be aware in advance that the G.O.P.’s threats to force a debt default are empty.

    • Liza says:

      I hope that all of those right leaning “independent” voters remember this Tea Party inspired faux debacle in November of 2014 when these idiots are up for re-election.

  27. rikyrah says:

    Charles Pierce’s nickname for Senator Pittypat:

    ‘ Huckleberry J. Butchmeup.”


  28. Yahtc says:

    From April 2013

    Author and screenwriter Tananarive Due reflects on her first year as the Cosby Chair for the Humanities at Spelman College.

  29. Yahtc says:

    Hat tip to Dave. From Florida:

    “Man burned after Halloween ‘prank’ involving gasoline, wooden cross and fire”

    Police said Nielson was with his wife putting together a “prank,” display along the side of his house when he retrieved the gasoline and candles. “It started as some kind of prank apparently and involved a wooden cross. We don’t know if he was trying to light the cross or the candles but when he did, his clothes caught fire,” Martinez said.

  30. Yahtc says:

    From 2011:
    “Rita Dove recites poetry at the White House Poetry NIGHT”

  31. Ametia says:

    Jay Carney WH presser live now.

  32. rikyrah says:

    Why We Had to Cleave the GOP

    by BooMan
    Wed Oct 16th, 2013 at 11:18:02 AM EST

    President Obama sat down with Univision reporter Claudia Botero and told her that he would begin pushing anew for a comprehensive immigration reform bill as soon as the government shutdown/debt ceiling crisis is resolved. Now, it’s still a bit premature to begin talking about the likely fallout from the shutdown crisis, but one of the arguments I have been making throughout is that the Republicans need to be cleaved in two if we are going to be able to do things like pass a transportation bill, end the sequester, or pass immigration reform.
    I can’t say that I am confident that we’ve made a sufficient breakthrough, but we’ve done the preliminary work. Here’s the deal. So long as Speaker Boehner was adhering to the Hastert Rule that says that he can’t bring a bill to the floor that doesn’t have the support of the majority of the Republican Caucus, then most of the president’s agenda was dead on arrival in the House.

    That was a very bleak prospect for the president’s second term. There have been a few discrete times when Boehner has been willing to break the Hastert Rule…to avoid the fiscal cliff, for example, and to reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act. But Boehner had to be very selective with these transgressions, lest he invite an internal revolt. Obviously, he was unwilling to stick his neck out to avoid a government shutdown or keep us from coming up against a debt default.

    Yet, the Hastert Rule is an artificial rule. It isn’t part of the Constitution or the official rules of the House. There are several parts of the president’s agenda that actually have the support of the majority of the House, if not the majority of Republicans in the House. There is probably majority support for turning off the sequester and transportation and farm bills. There is almost definitely majority support for comprehensive immigration reform.

    To get movement on these issues, the prerequisite is that Republican moderates in the House get comfortable with defying the Tea Party movement and working with the president. That is no easy task, considering the way the Republican base feels about Obama. A second prerequisite is that the Speaker, whether Boehner or some replacement, be willing to bring bills to the floor. That is also a heavy lift.

    But, if it is going to happen, the only way it could happen is if there is a major rift in the Republican Party between the sane Republicans and the crazy ones. There is no guarantee that this will be sufficient, but it can’t happen without the rift.

    Most of the focus on the administration’s strategy has been on their desire to get rid of the leverage the Republicans have used through hostage-taking. What makes this element so important is that the Congress has to pass a budget eventually, and without the hostages, they have to do it sooner rather than later. And they’ll have to actually make concessions rather than just pocketing the administration’s concessions and governing through sequestration. This will quickly put a final inglorious end to the Norquist Pledge, which is a major achievement.

    But the cleavage in the Republican Party is arguably more important because, without it, there is no hope of building a governing majority in the House.

    I don’t think this governing majority will emerge smoothly, if at all, from the current crisis, but I expect it to kind of evolve over the next few months as the GOP really begins to digest how badly they are divided. Immigration reform could be the vehicle. A battle over the Speakership could be the vehicle. A battle over the Farm Bill could be the vehicle. The next budget or debt ceiling deadline could be the vehicle. In every one of these debates, the fissures in the GOP will be coming to the fore.

    So, this battle is going to have real consequences

  33. Yahtc says:

    Artist Gertrude Morgan painted inspired testaments on recycled paper.

    From Wikipedia:

    Sister Gertrude Morgan (1900-1980) was a preacher, missionary, artist, musician, and poet who worked in New Orleans in the 1960s and ’70s, notable primarily for her folk art.
    She was born in 1900 in Lafayette, Alabama, and moved to Columbus, Georgia at the age of eighteen. She was married to Will Morgan in 1928, but at the age of 38 thought she heard a voice from God telling her to become a street evangelist. She left her family and husband to move to New Orleans, where she organized an orphanage with two other missionaries.

    She believed God told her to begin painting in 1956, and in 1957 thought she heard a voice telling her that she was the Bride of Christ. Thus she adopted a white habit and moved out of the orphanage to establish “The Everlasting Gospel Mission” in the French Quarter of New Orleans.
    Music was one of the tools of her ministry, and in the early 1970s, Let’s Make A Record was recorded in order to capture Morgan singing and playing her tambourine.
    She painted in order to create visual aids for her preaching, and her paintings use a colorful religious iconography. Some of her favorite subjects are the Book of Revelation and her and Jesus flying in an airplane, this last accompanied by the poem “Jesus is my air Plane.” She painted on whatever was at hand, including styrofoam trays, window shades and even toilet paper rolls.

    Her art brought her fame and notoriety, and in 1974 she announced that the Lord had ordered her to cease painting in order to concentrate on her preaching and poetry. She died in 1980.
    In 2005, the New Orleans Museum of Art presented the first comprehensive collection of her art. Also in 2005, the Ropeadope label released King Britt presents Sister Gertrude Morgan, which took the a cappella/tambourine recordings of Let’s Make A Record and added contemporary beat programming and instrumentation. The album received rave reviews and created a new, young audience for Sister Gertrude Morgan. The album artwork featured her paintings.

  34. GOP gets nothing.

    *GIGGLING* President Hotness!

  35. Ametia says:

    Carl Bernstein: GOP leadership ‘cancerous’ H/T TOD

  36. Ametia says:

    For Ted Cruz & GOP


  37. Yahtc says:

    Why you should see ’12 Years a Slave’

    • Ametia says:

      “12 Years a Slave” is easily the most hard-hitting portrayal of slavery since the 1977 TV blockbuster “Roots.” It is the kind of film that many people will avoid, in part because of its depiction of everything from the surrealism of slave markets to whippings, rapes, hangings and the myriad ways in which slave owners terrorized and ruled over their property.

      The thing is; the many people who will “AVOID” the movie are the very ones who SHOULD & NEED to see it.

      Denial is not that river in Egypt, folks.

  38. rikyrah says:

    Why Isn’t the GOP Complaining About the Deficit? Because It’s Dropping — Fast.

    Posted on October 16, 2013 at 7:35 am by Bob Cesca

    My Wednesday column:

    As we careen headlong toward the debt ceiling deadline, with the House Republicans and Speaker John Boehner in full Three-Stooges-Trying-To-Fix-The-Plumbing mode, the issue area that’s been overshadowed by the grandstanding, political props and brinksmanship is government spending itself.

    The budget deficit is really the 4,000 pound gorilla in the room and the Republicans refuse to discuss anything other than the fact that employer mandate for the dreaded Affordable Care Act begins a year after the individual mandate. Yes, we’re in the middle of a showdown over the debt because of Obamacare rather than, you know, spending and fiscal responsibility.

    Why aren’t they talking about the deficit? That’s easy: they can’t say anything bad about it because the Obama administration’s record on the deficit is kind of stellar.

    Let’s review some numbers.

  39. The Houston Chronicle REGRETS endorsing Ted Cruz.

    The Houston Chronicle, which endorsed Houstonian Ted Cruz (R-TX) in the general election for Senate last fall, now regrets its endorsement, according to an editorial published this morning.

    The Chronicle’s endorsement had been qualified to begin with, as the paper had preferred Texas Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst, whom Cruz upset in the Republican primary. But the editors now long for the days of Cruz’s predecessor, Kay Bailey Hutchison, whom the paper said worked with her colleagues toward solutions, rather than against both.

    We’re not sure how much difference one person could make in the toxic, chaotic, hyperpartisan atmosphere in Washington, but if we could choose just one it would be Hutchison, whose years of service in the Senate were marked by two things sorely lacking in her successor, Ted Cruz.

    For one thing, Hutchison had an unswerving commitment to the highest and best interests of Texas at all times.

    …And dare we say it? We miss her extraordinary understanding of the importance of reaching across the aisle when necessary. Neither sitting Texas senator has displayed that useful skill, and both the state and the Congress are the poorer for it.

    …When we endorsed Ted Cruz in last November’s general election, we did so with many reservations and at least one specific recommendation – that he follow Hutchison’s example in his conduct as a senator.

    Obviously, he has not done so. Cruz has been part of the problem in specific situations where Hutchison would have been part of the solution.


    Karma! It’s what’s for dinner! :)

  40. Ametia says:

    Justices Weigh Michigan Law and Race in College Admissions

    WASHINGTON — Just four months after the Supreme Court largely ducked the question of whether the University of Texas may take account of race in its admissions decisions, the justices heard arguments on Tuesday about whether Michigan’s voters violated the Constitution by forbidding race-conscious admissions plans at that state’s public universities.

    The new question led to a lively argument that illuminated the justices’ very different understandings of the meaning of equal protection, the workings of the political process and the value of affirmative action programs. The court appeared closely divided, with the five more conservative justices seeming generally inclined to uphold the ballot measure.

    The measure, known as Proposal 2, was a response to Grutter v. Bollinger, a 2003 Supreme Court decision that upheld the use of race as one factor of many in law school admissions to ensure educational diversity. Proposal 2, approved in 2006 by 58 percent of Michigan’s voters, amended the State Constitution to prohibit discrimination or preferential treatment in public education, government contracting and public employment.

    Groups favoring affirmative action sued to block the part of the law concerning higher education. The United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, in Cincinnati, ruled last year that the initiative, which amended the State Constitution, violated the federal Constitution’s equal protection clause.

    • Ametia says:

      These fools REALLY think they are doing America a favor for faking crisis and faking deals. The GOP got MAJORLY OWNED by POTUS & the DEMS.

  41. rikyrah says:

    Karma is a bitch and remains UNDEFEATED.

    I have NO sympathy for these people.


    South Dakota Conservatives Abandon the Tea Party Government Shutdown

    By: Adalia Woodbury
    Tuesday, October 15th, 2013, 9:12 pm

    The Tea Party’s claim that a government shutdown will force Washington into fiscal responsibility doesn’t mean much to its supporters in South Dakota. A devastating blizzard that destroyed 80,000 heads of cattle earlier this month is showing them the hard way that there are circumstances in which people need government. The only thing more traumatic is realizing that government isn’t there because of the very shutdown they supported.

    When Hurricane Sandy devastated businesses in eastern States, Tea Party members of Congress opposed Sandy aid to rebuild businesses because that’s ”pork”.

    The Tea Party doesn’t believe in pork, because that leads to a culture of dependency which is bad unless they are the dependents .

    When supporters of the Tea Party shutdown start sounding like liberals, it’s the proverbial canary in the coal mine. Take Silvia Christen, the executive director of South Dakota’s Stock-growers Association.

    Some ranchers lost all their cattle. They’ve yet to find one alive… They’re facing absolute destruction. … one appropriate role for these guys is to lend a hand after disasters like this … and they’re not here.

    Then there’s Scott Reder who lost all of his cattle in the blizzard. Since the shutdown, Reder passes a federal Farm Services Administration office whose doors are closed. Like most ranchers, he subscribes to solving his own problems and when help is needed he looks to his neighbors.

    In other words, Reder isn’t someone who subscribes to this imaginary culture of dependency that Tea Party lawmakers talk about. Losing his cattle and his livelihood through no fault of his own, Reder is seeing that government actually can be a friend when you’re in need.

  42. rikyrah says:

    The hollow men

    Tuesday, October 15, 2013 | Posted by Liberal Librarian at 6:34 PM

    This crisis was manufactured, yes, but for a purpose.

    The country as it is trending is a country which frightens an unfortunately significant number of Americans. Not significant enough to win elections, as one does in a democratic republic, but significant enough so that it adheres to itself the power of destruction.

    If the Tea Party caucus in the House was its own party, and not part of the GOP, it would be a toothless, useless animal. It doesn’t have the votes to pass the renaming of a post office, much less matters of national import. But, it is part of the GOP caucus, and its power doesn’t lie in numbers. Its power lies in what any mafioso would recognize: that of extortionate threats. And any Republican who might want to make an accommodation with the Democrats has to look over his shoulder, wondering what Freedom Works will do when the next primary comes up. If they were men and women of honor, they would damn the next election and do what’s right to save the country. But we have to come to the point where we stop deluding ourselves: there is no moderate GOP caucus. If one existed, it would have revolted by now, siding with House Democrats and ending this farce. It hasn’t. And it won’t.

    Today’s GOP, all of it, from John Boehner down to Louie Gohmert, consist of hollow men and women. They’re not in government to serve the commonwealth. They don’t believe in the United States, not the country as it exists. They believe in a country which never existed, where everyone knew one’s place, and people like them were at the top, or, more frankly, local capos.

    There are no moderates. They all serve an ideology of death, one which says that if the country can’t conform to their vision, then they will destroy it, and take the rest of the world with it as well.

    I would like to believe that Boehner will come to his senses. But he has shown no hint of that. He has no sense. Whether it’s fear or brute callousness is immaterial. The results are the same. He can’t lead because he doesn’t want to lead. The scuppering of yet another House GOP plan by conservative interest groups because it wasn’t bloody enough is evidence of this. Boehner’s plan was another awful one, but not awful enough. So he has again abdicated all responsibility.

    This is a manufactured crisis, but one manufactured with a purpose.

    The hollow men who fund the GOP don’t care a whit for the Constitution, only insofar as it can be interpreted to benefit them. And if it stands in their way, better that the whole house burn. They’ll survive, or so they think. They think themselves masters of the universe, able to thrive in any environment, even one of chaos. But chaos respects nothing but brute strength, and they may find that the skills which served them well in a regulated market will be as ash in the brave new world towards which they wish us to slouch.

  43. rikyrah says:

    From Charles Pierce:

    A great portion of the courtier press that now expresses horror at what is going on now went gleefully along for the ride as it became inevitable. Any members of that courtier press who relished the pursuit of Bill Clinton’s penis, or conducted the absurd campaign of untruth that was waged against Al Gore between 1999 and 2000 lost the right years ago credibly to denounce conservative extremism and Republican vandalism. That means you, Roger Simon of Politico, who was so shocked the other day to discover that racism may have afflicted the process of government since the president’s election, but who once claimed to right to make candidates like Gore “jump through hoops” for the pure hella-fun of it. That means you, Chris Matthews, who chased the presidential dick for two years, all the way through an impeachment process that was a constitutional absurdity, but who now discovers that the campaign of destruction never truly stopped. That means you, Andrew Sullivan, with your current existential torment over How It Came To This. (Pro tip: The Bell Curve? Betsy McCaughey on health-care? Fifth-column liberals? You helped.) This means you, David Brooks, sucking your thumb on book leave while the monster that you got rich feeding grows into its full power. This means all of you who went along for the ride on torture, and on Iraq, and who hid under the bed after 9/11. This is how the power came to rest with Ted Yoho, who is a fool and a know-nothing. This is how historical inevitability is created. This is how its momentum becomes unstoppable. This is how the wreckage piles up.

  44. rikyrah says:

    Chad Pergram ✔ @ChadPergram

    Reid & Pelosi spoke just a bit ago. Expecting roll out of Senate deal this am. There’s a scenario to move this in Senate & Hse today.

    8:04 AM – 16 Oct 2013

  45. rikyrah says:

    IF you live in New Jersey, suck it up and go vote for Cory Booker today.

  46. rikyrah says:

    Default Was Never An Option

    by BooMan
    Wed Oct 16th, 2013 at 09:03:53 AM EST

    A few days ago, Rolling Stone published a Tim Dickinson article on the inner doings of “the Republican suicide machine.” It’s a big piece, and on page four there is a description of John Boehner, Eric Cantor, and their relationship to the business community.

    Boehner and Cantor have learned to speak the language of the Tea Party – the majority leader more fluently than the speaker – but their real job is to keep the old Republican-patronage machine humming. In their political bloodlines and in their donor networks, both Boehner and Cantor are deeply connected to the politics of Rove. Boehner’s signature accomplishment was steering George W. Bush’s education initiative No Child Left Behind to passage – a law that [Heritage Action president Michael] Needham decries as “a gargantuan federalization of education” and “an anathema to conservatives.” For his part, Cantor was a key member of the 2003 Tom DeLay whip team that twisted arms in an infamous all-night session required to pass the deficit-financed Medicare prescription-drug plan, a Rove-driven gift to Big Pharma and the most sweeping expansion of the program since the days of Lyndon Johnson.
    Looting Main Street

    Boehner is renowned as a “Chamber of Commerce Republican” – and the campaign-finance data are unambiguous: In the 2012 election cycle, Boehner was the House’s top recipient of campaign cash from 34 different industries, from hedge funds and investment firms to coal mining, student­loan companies, hospitals, nursing homes and Big Tobacco. He was also the top recipient of campaign cash from lobbyists themselves, raking in $393,000 according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics. In D.C., the speaker’s clubby network of staffers and lobbyists is known as “Boehnerland,” and its members include heavy hitters for Citigroup, UPS, Altria, AmEx, Akin Gump and the National Federation of Independent Businesses. “The Boehner folks barbecue on Sunday together, they go on vacations together, they name their kids after each other,” says the former leadership aide.

    Although he’s positioned himself as a kindred spirit of House insurgents, and has even joined the RSC, Cantor is perhaps more deeply knitted into the Republican establishment than Boehner is. It was Cantor’s prodigious fund­raising talents that elevated him to the fast track in 2003, when he became chief-­deputy whip after just one term in Congress. Married to a former Goldman Sachs VP, he speaks the language of the investment class and is said to sell financiers on the “return on investment” of their political donations to the party. He’s been a fierce defender of the hedge-fund loophole that taxes the income of top investors at less than the rate of their secretaries – once arguing that taxing “carried interest” at normal rates would hurt “the average blue-jean-wearing American.” Over his career, he’s raised more than $2.4 million from the investment community.

    John Boehner and Eric Cantor are a little different than freshman lawmakers like Rep. Ted Yoho of Florida whose day job in 2009 was cutting the balls off large mammals in his veterinary clinic. Rep. Ted Yoho was recently quoted saying that a default on the debt would “stabilize” global markets. That’s the kind of clown that Boehner and Cantor have been trying to humor and placate.

    If you want to know why I have been so serene about the threat of default, it’s because John Boehner and Eric Cantor are creatures of big business, and they have almost nothing in common with the Tea Baggers who forced this crisis upon the Republican leadership.

    From there, it was easy to game this thing out. Boehner would never get his caucus to pass anything, and he’d be weakened and forced to rely on Democratic votes. He would never default.

  47. rikyrah says:

    The Morning Plum: John Boehner’s `moment of truth’ arrives

    By Greg Sargent

    October 16 at 9:01 am

    From the very beginning of this whole crisis, two facts have been plainly obvious to anyone who cared to appreciate the basic dynamics of the situation:

    1) The incentives always argued overwhelmingly in favor of Dems refusing to concede any meaningful ground to the GOP demand for major unilateral concessions in a context where Republicans were using the threat of extensive harm to the country to get their way. This was the only way to prevent this from happening to Dems — and the country — again.

    2) There was never any compromise that could prove acceptable to both Tea Party conservatives on one side, and Obama and Senate Dems on the other. One side believes it must reserve the threat of widespread damage to the country as leverage to cripple the Obama presidency before it destroys the country. The other wants to end use of that as leverage for good. That core difference was inherently unbridgeable.

    Today, with Senators close to a deal to reopen the government and lift the debt limit, John Boehner may finally have to come to terms with those two facts, and accept their implications: The only way out of this mess is through an alliance of non-Tea Party Republicans and Democrats.

    The collapse of the House’s plan to end the crisis — precipitated by conservatives who said it didn’t extract enough in concessions on Obamacare in exchange for averting widespread harm to the country – once again confirms point two above. Meanwhile, Jackie Calmes has a good piece reporting on the White House’s conclusion early on that the only real option was to refuse to legitimize GOP extortion tactics, having been badly burned in 2011. This basic White House motive should have been obvious for weeks.

  48. rikyrah says:

    What This Cruel War Was Over

    It is not so much the behavior of the lone idiot that matters, but the tenor of the crowd around him.

    Ta-Nehisi Coates
    Oct 15 2013, 9:35 AM ET

    On Sunday, a group of conservative radicals held a protest in Washington. Eventually they walked to the White House. One of these radicals felt it was a good idea to wave the flag of slavery, treason, and terrorism in front of the home of America’s first black president. Lone idiots are often drawn to protest action. The behavior of such idiots, while alarming, should not necessarily be taken as an indicator of the aims and thrust of the protest. On the contrary, it is not so much the behavior of the lone idiot that matters—but the tenor of the crowd around him.

    If, for instance, you witness a march against military action in Syria and see a Nazi flag among the protestors this should disturb you. But you would be heartened to see the protesters snatch the lone idiot in their midst, eject him from their party with great vigor, and give him some blows for good measure. The flag would still disturb you, but perhaps you might be able to see it as a fringe action, and not the heart of the protest itself.

    It is the wisdom of the crowd that matters. The wisdom that marked Sunday’s crowd was the idea that the president “bows down to Allah” and needs to “put the Qu’ran down.” The wisdom that marked Sunday’s crowd was the notion that Obama was not the president of “the people” but the president of “his people.” The wisdom of Sunday’s crowd held that the police, doing their job, looked “like something out of Kenya.” It’s not so much that a man would fly a Confederate flag, as Jeff Goldberg notes, in front of the home of a black family. It’s that a crowd would allow him the comfort of doing it.

    I was in a crowd once. It’s been almost 20 years. But I remember most is how emphatically we were drilled, that day, on the politics of respectability. Our wisdom was conservative—too conservative for my tastes, frankly. But I obeyed the edict of the day which held that had any black man who came to the Million Man March and so much as stole candy bar would doom us all. That was our wisdom. It’s a good memory. But I fear that it is no match for the wisdom of Sunday’s crowd. The blue period is upon us.

    MORE: I don’t know if I am effectively communicating what is wrong with that picture and why it is deeply infuriating. If a patriot can stand in front of the White House brandishing the Confederate flag, then the word “patriot” has no meaning. The Nazi flag is offensive because it is a marker of centuries of bigotry elevated to industrialized murder.

    But the Confederate flag does not merely carry the stain of slavery, of “useful killing,” but the stain of attempting to end the Union itself. You cannot possibly wave that flag and honestly claim any sincere understanding of your country. It is not possible.

    • Liza says:

      “You cannot possibly wave that flag and honestly claim any sincere understanding of your country. It is not possible.”

      Those who wave the confederate flag haven’t got a sincere understanding of much of anything. Their dogs are smarter than they are.

      • Yahtc says:

        And, to think of just how many of those types wanted to secede after President Obama was reelected!

        How many of those people are pushing their State’s Rights agendas right now for such purposes as disenfranchising voters, ignoring where federal money is really supposed to be spent in their states, etc.?

    • Ametia says:

      @lIZA These fools are so ENTRENCHED in their own NARROW-MINDED stupidity.

  49. rikyrah says:

    October 15, 2013 5:59 PM
    Three Theories of House GOP Brinkmanship—And One More

    By Ed Kilgore

    As we await the next development in the fiscal saga, it’s worthwhile to look at three theories kicking around today for exactly why House Republicans are continuing to engage in economy-risking and popularity-damaging brinkmanship, even after they’ve abandoned their earlier audacious demands for (serially) a disabling of Obamacare and “grand bargain” budget negotiations with higher taxes left off the table.

    One fairly straightforward hypothesis is from WaPo’s economics writer Neil Irwin, who suggests House GOPers are suffering from the “sunk cost fallacy:”

    House Republicans pushed a hard line in the runup to the government shutdown, demanding a repeal of Obamacare in exchange for agreeing to fund the government. There was never any way that the White House or Senate Democrats would go along with that, but that was their strategy, and it led to the shutdown of the government.

    Two weeks later, Republicans have started to accept that they will not get a full repeal of the health reform legislation, and are trying to work on more attainable goals. But there is a strong current within their caucus that sees the fact that they have shut down the government and attendant decline in popularity as a reason that they must continue to fight.

    So they have to “win” something Democrats don’t want to give them, or the “sunk costs” of a bad strategy will have been for naught.

  50. rikyrah says:

    October 15, 2013 3:44 PM
    Boehner’s Moment of Truth Approaches

    By Ed Kilgore

    This report from Salon’s Brian Beutler, which echoes others, indicates that any idea John Boehner had of supplanting a nearly-done Senate deal with his own is falling apart:

    It didn’t take Democrats long to react to the House GOP debt limit plan, and thus for Boehner to begin dragging the outline to the right, aware that it will either pass with 217 Republican votes, or fail completely, leaving him at the mercy of the Senate.

    Harry Reid called the House GOP position “a blatant attack on bipartisanship” and vowed that it “won’t pass the Senate.” Boehner is already reacting, scrounging for more GOP votes by promising to stick it to Congressional staff. National Review’s Robert Costa reports that Boehner is reversing his position that aides should be held harmless in this fight, and will agree to nix the federal government’s contribution to their health insurance as well. It could move further right still. And as before it may not pass anyhow.

    The “stick it to Congressional staff” bit is a reference to the Vitter Amendment, that demagogic favorite of the Defunding Obamacare crowd which bans the federal health insurance subsidies that would have been made available after a Republican amendment to the Affordable Care Act forced Members of Congress, their staffs, and executive-branch political appointees into the Obamacare exchanges. The initial Boehner proposal, which I’ve called Vitter Lite, would have applied the provision only to principals, not staff. So restoring the original language is a trophy for the Right and a concession that this proposal will in no way be “bipartisan.”

  51. rikyrah says:

    It’s still extortion for the sake of extortion
    By Jonathan Bernstein
    October 15 at 4:23 pm

    We have two interesting theories today about what’s happening in the House. One is from Neil Irwin, who posits that it’s all about a sunk costs fallacy — Republicans are mistakenly continuing to ask for things they can’t get because that’s the only way to justify what they’ve already given up by following their current strategy. The other theory, well-articulated by Greg Sargent, Jonathan Chait and Danny Vinik, is that Republicans are still fighting for the principle of extortion.

    I strongly agree with the latter theory — way back in May, I argued that radical Republicans were fighting over the principle of extortion for the sake of extortion:

  52. rikyrah says:

    The Wall Street Journal editorial page has had enough: “It’s time to wrap up this comedy of political errors.”

    “President Obama called their bluff, no doubt in part to blame the disruption on the GOP and further tarnish the party’s public image. Now the most Republicans will get out of this is lower public approval and a chance to negotiate with Mr. Obama again before the next debt-limit deadline. If the Senate passes its compromise, Mr. Boehner will have little choice other than to bring it to the floor and let it pass with votes from either party. Mr. Obama will have to deliver enough Democratic votes to pass it.”

    “At least that’s better than getting the blame for whatever happens if Treasury stops sending out Social Security checks in order to prioritize debt repayments. The politics of that are little better than defaulting on debt. Republicans can best help their cause now by getting this over with and moving on to fight more intelligently another day.”

  53. rikyrah says:

    Premiums on Obamacare marketplaces beat expectations, report shows

    When open enrollment begins on the online, state-based marketplaces established under Obamacare, premiums nationwide are expected to be around 16 percent lower than originally predicted, the U.S. Health and Human Services Department said in a new report released Wednesday.

    The administration sees the lower-than-expected premiums as a sign that the plan to drive down health costs for consumers by increasing competition is working. They also point to the insurers entering the individual health insurance market for the first time as a sign of strong competition, as well as the variety of plans that will be available on the market.

    For families nationwide, “these new options will finally make health insurance work within their budget,” Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told reporters Tuesday.

    She noted that, according to the report, six in 10 uninsured Americans will be able to find coverage for less than $100 a month, while the average consumer in one of the 36 states with a federally-run marketplace will be able to choose from an average of 53 different plans.

  54. rikyrah says:

    Rep. Clyburn Slams Ben Carson’s Obamacare ‘Slavery’ Remark
    Oct 14, 2013

    By Jada Gomez-Lacayo, Editor

    There’s no denying that President Barack Obama‘s Affordable Care Act has been met with resistance from the right. However, Dr. Ben Carson has taken an extreme view — the neurosurgeon believes that the healthcare initiative is the worst thing since slavery. U.S. House of Representatives Assistant Democratic Leader James Clyburn completely disagreed, and aired his views on “NewsOne Now” with Roland Martin:

    “I think that Dr. Carson is trying to find a way to endear himself to conservative voters. He has declared himself a candidate for President… That is the kind of manufactured controversy that has been engulfing this country for a long long time and I’m very disappointed…”

    • Liza says:

      Love this clip where Mitt buries himself. He is obviously not a fact checker and believes the rightwing propaganda and the lies he is told, and ultimately shows that he is just another front man for GOP plutocracy. Truth never matters to these people.

  55. rikyrah says:

    Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka

    A year ago today, Pres. Obama said “Please Proceed, Governor” and the rest is history.

    7:16 AM – 16 Oct 2013

  56. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone :)

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