Friday Open Thread | Dolt45 Sides With the Democrats

Posted on September 8, 2017 by rikyrah

Trump bucks GOP leadership, backs Democratic deal on debt ceiling, funding government

By Deirdre Walsh, Ashley Killough and Kevin Liptak, CNN

(CNN)President Donald Trump bucked his own party Wednesday and sided with Democrats to support a deal that would ensure passage of disaster relief funding as well as raising the debt ceiling and continuing to fund the government into December.

In a rebuke to Republican leaders, Trump backed Democrats’ plan to support a deal that would fund Hurricane Harvey aid but only raise the debt ceiling for three months. Those two items would also be tied to a measure to keep the government open through the end of December, setting up a hugely complicated year end crush of must-pass items.

Ignoring the advice of Republican congressional leadership and that of his own treasury secretary, Trump said he wanted a solution and supported the Democratic plan, according to a source briefed on a meeting that Trump held with congressional leaders Wednesday.

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This is big because we won’t be defaulting on the debt ceiling. Even though it’s kicking the can down the road, it does get money to those that need it.

 

Donald Trump Just Undercut His Own Party On The Debt Ceiling. It Was Deliberate.

The president has grown tired and resentful of Republican leadership on the Hill and feels he owes them no favors.
09.06.17 5:45 PM ET

excerpt:
For all his famed negotiating skills, Trump emerged from the meeting having handed Democrats a legislative triumph. But according to sources close to Trump, the president was more than willing to cut the deal because he has grown tired, if not resentful, of Republican leaders on Capitol Hill.

Multiple West Wing sources told The Daily Beast how the president was looking to strike a quick and easy deal—and that his speed reaching this specific arrangement was in part ensured by his resentment towards Republican leaders, who Trump views as hostile, insufficiently loyal, and impotent. It was well-known within the White House that President Trump, going into the meeting, was “not looking to do [Ryan and McConnell] any favors,” as one White House official put it.

Simply put, the president made a “deliberate decision not to care about Ryan’s feelings” and did what he wanted, another White House adviser said.

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75 Responses to Friday Open Thread | Dolt45 Sides With the Democrats

  1. Liza says:
    September 9, 2017 at 9:16 am

    Yeah. Our GOP led nation is well on it’s way to being the World’s Biggest Asshole.

  2. SouthernGirl2 says:
    September 8, 2017 at 11:28 pm

    Dick Gregory – On Slavery, Reparations and Hurricanes

  4. SouthernGirl2 says:
    September 8, 2017 at 10:34 pm

    My son just said the same thing. And they were here pulling us out of the water. You don’t hear a word of sympathy for Cuba. I’m so damn sick of these racist bigots.

  8. rikyrah says:
    September 8, 2017 at 9:59 pm

    Did I miss the official United States statement of sympathy for those who were victims of the Mexican earthquake?

  9. rikyrah says:
    September 8, 2017 at 9:51 pm

    Darth Maria Becky Sharapova Is the 2nd-Whitest Woman on Earth
    Damon Young
    Today 4:01pm

    Imagine, if you will, the level of raw and uncut caucasity necessary to be most famous for …

    losing to your fiercest rival so many consecutive times that said rival got so bored that she went out and had a freakin’ baby just so that the baby could eventually beat your ass, too, and
    injecting orca-whale sperm or whatever the fuck in your calves and getting suspended for it …

    ………………………….

    And then, if still not done with your cup of imagining iced tea, imagine possessing the caucastic audacity to believe that Serena still gives a fuck about that one time you beat her in 1752, and actually printing that in a book you intend for people to read.

    Naturally, all things considered, it sounds like Maria Sharapova should be the single-whitest woman on earth. Admittedly, she makes a compelling case. She checks every box on the Darth Becky sign-in sheet. Faux victimhood? Check! Shameless attempts to elicit sympathy at the expense of people of color? Check! Uninvestigated and unacknowledged privilege? Check! Probable midnight DMs from Jason Whitlock? Check! She makes a quite valid case for Peak Becky.

    Unfortunately, the Whitest Woman on Earth title is already held by Taylor Swift. Poor Maria can’t even win a battle of whiteness.

  14. rikyrah says:
    September 8, 2017 at 9:25 pm

    I am always fascinated that these hurricanes have their origins –
    OFF THE COAST OF AFRICA.

    The storms are created thousands of miles away and travel – literally – ACROSS THE OCEAN.

  15. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    September 8, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    ” The cost of a hurricane is high, especially if you can’t afford to flee”
    https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/the-cost-of-a-hurricane-is-high-especially-if-you-cant-afford-to-flee/article36216679/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&
    Excerpt:

    Residents of the Florida Keys were told no one would answer their 911 calls, and that they were “crazy” if they stayed.

    They’d have to be crazy to stay, right? Well, no. They could also just be poor. In order to flee, you have to have somewhere to go, and the money to get there. The line of cars snaking up the interstates, or waiting outside gas stations in West Palm Beach, provided visible proof of an income divide that is often hidden, and becomes visible in times of crisis: Some people have cars, and money for gas, motels, meals, pet food. Other people don’t. It’s hard to imagine how vast a sum $50 can seem if you’ve never been short $50.

    Hurricane Harvey, a catastrophe already pushed off the public radar, offered valuable insights into how difficult it can be for poor, disabled, elderly or undocumented people to flee a natural disaster. A woman named Judie McRae, who sheltered from Harvey in her Texas mobile home, told the BBC: “I had some problems getting out of town, a little broke and stuff, so I had to come home and, you know, tough it out. We’re all the working-class people.” She added, “We’re the ones who go to the restaurants and wait on you and pick up your trash and do all that work. We don’t have a lot of money.”

    The Washington Post did an extraordinary story on a run-down building complex in Houston that floods regularly, is filled with mould, and whose residents have to pay rent whether they’re knee-deep in water or not. They didn’t have the luxury of evacuating during Harvey, and instead carried sodden mattresses to the top floors of the building: “There were few around here who stockpiled food and drinking water to wait out the storm,” the Post story said, “because stockpiling requires extra cash, and extra cash is not a luxury they have.”

  18. rikyrah says:
    September 8, 2017 at 9:04 pm

    HIS OWN STATE HAS BEEN ACCUSED AND STILL THIS MUTHAPHUCKA REMAINS ON THE COMMISSION?

    DA PHUQ?

    Democrat to stay on Trump voter panel despite calls to leave

    Associated Press

    September 8, 2017

    New Hampshire’s secretary of state said today he will remain on an
    advisory commission to President Donald Trump though he disagrees with voter fraud allegations made by the panel’s vice chairman about his state.

    All four members of New Hampshire’s congressional delegation called on fellow Democrat and Secretary of State Bill Gardner to step down from the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity in response to a Breitbart column by Republican Kris Kobach published Thursday.

    ……………………………..

    “Secretary Gardner’s association with this partisan commission risks tarnishing his long legacy of fighting for the New Hampshire Primary and promoting voter participation, and it would be in keeping with his distinguished record to immediately relinquish any role with this commission,” Hassan and Sen. Jeanne Shaheen said in a statement.

    Gardner, the nation’s longest-serving secretary of state, countered
    by questioning whether the senators quit committees they’re assigned to in Congress because they disagree with other members.

    “Are they going to refuse to participate in anything? Don’t they try
    to deal with it? Don’t they try to have a dialogue,” he said.

    Gardner said he doesn’t condone Kobach’s claims but will remain on the commission because it’s important to figure out why Americans are losing trust in the election process. Nothing less than the fate of American democracy is at stake, he said.

    “Democracies go away when people no longer trust the very basic part of democracy, which is the ability to cast a vote for the people you want to represent you,” he said. “If they lose faith in that process, it goes away. That’s how democracies die.”

  19. rikyrah says:
    September 8, 2017 at 8:59 pm

    Thread

    GothamGirlBlue‏ @GothamGirlBlue

    I’ve been seething all day about the response to Hillary’s book, and I feel like I’ve finally channeled it into a coherent thread.
    9:25 PM – 7 Sep 2017

    2/ Every last thing we’re experiencing now was predicted by Hillary during the campaign. And like Cassandra, we refused to believe her.

    3/ I shouldn’t use the word “we” because I was a member of her coalition. I believed her and I believed in her.

    4/ She represented her coalition ably, if not perfectly. She talked about issues that mattered to us. She made sure to express empathy.

    5/ For that, she was heckled, harassed, attacked, dismissed, ignored and mocked by the very people who were supposed to inform us.

    6/ And every time someone wrote about how unlikeable she was, or how she didn’t talk about what really mattered, or how it’s her fault…

    7/ They were really saying it about our coalition. *We* were unlikeable. *We* didn’t really matter. It’s *our* fault that Trump won

    8/ This backlash is really about the idea that neither Hillary as a person nor the coalition she represented has any right to public life.

    9/ She was supposed to stan for white supremacy and patriarchy. She was supposed to put the priorities of white rural voters above all.

    10/ She was supposed to back down when shouted at. She was supposed to mold herself into something likeable.

    11/ It goes without saying that white men determine what is likeable. They say it’s voters, but they mean white male voters.

    12/ And we are seeing the backlash of not placating those who want our silence, our submission, our obeisance in their presence.

    13/ Y’all get distracted when a GOP presidential candidate retweets white supremacists, but you can find all the time to harass Hillary.

    14/ Trump is out here weaponizing the ICE into the goddamn Gestapo, but you can find time to tell Hillary her voice isn’t wanted.

    16/ And us, those who shared in her warnings and now feel the brunt of the brutality, we’re told that we had our shot and we wasted it.

    18/ But POC, women, urban voters who are responsible for 2/3 of the American economy? We should shut up and go home. No one wants us here.

    19/ It’s very clear that the storytellers of this age are interested in protecting the narrative of white-dominated Americana.

    24/ And she’s reminding us that likeability is a damn lie. You never would have liked her no matter what she did because she challenged you.

    26/ You want us to go away. You want us to internalize her loss as our inferiority. You want our silence, our return to the back.

  21. rikyrah says:
    September 8, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    I’m tired of the double standard for Hillary. Phuck yeah, she has the right to sell her book.

    https://twitter.com/leftyjennyc/status/906166806364266499

  24. rikyrah says:
    September 8, 2017 at 8:32 pm

    So, with Dolt45 and Irma….

    Are they going to ship him off to Camp David like they did with Harvey, so that he’ll have another one of those idiot photos, while leaving the ‘ Presidential, taking care of stuff surrounded by everyone working’ picture to Pence?

    Or, will he refuse to leave, thus denying Pence the opportunity to play President.

  27. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    September 8, 2017 at 8:13 pm

    Wow! Just Wow!!!

  28. Ametia says:
    September 8, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    It’s like everyone was WAITING TO EXHALE.

    I feel ya’ll.

  30. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    September 8, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    Map of power outages predicted:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJO4b31XoAABp_N.jpg

  31. Liza says:
    September 8, 2017 at 5:42 pm

    Weather.com has 243 pictures of Irma devastation right now from the islands southeast of Florida. This is so sad.

    https://weather.com/safety/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-images

  32. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    September 8, 2017 at 5:16 pm

    My gut feeling is that you will be okay, Sunshine. Blessings to you and may you feel God’s protective Love.

  33. sunshine616 says:
    September 8, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    Thank you all. I will keep u as updated as I can. I’ve never seen anything like these evacuations. I live in ocala fl and am Hoping we will be ok

  34. Liza says:
    September 8, 2017 at 4:24 pm

    Melania Trump’s clothes are okay from the few pictures I’ve seen of her. But who cares?

  35. Ametia says:
    September 8, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    *****DEAD*****

  36. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    September 8, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    Odetta :
    https://youtu.be/QZjuSinqLc4&rel=0

    Joan Baez :

    “Put your hand in the hand of the man
    Who stilled the water
    Put your hand in the hand of the man
    Who calmed the sea
    Take a look at yourself
    And you can look at others differently
    Put your hand in the hand of the man
    From Galilee

    https://youtu.be/nhxS2uriPMA&rel=0

  37. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    September 8, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    Here is the FL Evac Helpline: 1-800-342-3557

  39. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    September 8, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    I saw this earlier.

    Excellent checklist!

  40. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    September 8, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    May you and your family be safe, Sunshine.

    I read that police and others were going to houses to help people get to evacuation centers. Perhaps you can call your local city hall of police for help evacuating.

  43. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    September 8, 2017 at 3:08 pm

    Amen. Stay safe Sunshine. You will be in my prayers.

  44. rikyrah says:
    September 8, 2017 at 2:54 pm

    Spicer, Priebus, Hicks among six current and former Trump aides Mueller has expressed interest in interviewing for Russia probe
    September 8 at 3:27 PM

    Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has alerted the White House that his team will likely seek to interview six top current and former advisers to President Trump who were witnesses to several episodes relevant to the investigation of Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the request.

    Mueller’s interest in the aides, including trusted adviser Hope Hicks, ex-press secretary Sean Spicer and former chief of staff Reince Priebus, reflects how the probe that has dogged Trump’s presidency is starting to penetrate a closer circle of aides around the president.

    https://media.tenor.com/images/c5f054ba5ec2364c488e9365eafdfe46/tenor.gif

  45. Liza says:
    September 8, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    Qatar donates $30m to help Hurricane Harvey victims in Texas, the largest contribution from a foreign government https://t.co/jf8GIyt3xD pic.twitter.com/lVl9ZyLiVC— Al Jazeera English (@AJEnglish) September 8, 2017

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  48. rikyrah says:
    September 8, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    What say you, stupid Democrats on that scam commission.

    …………………..

    Election Integrity Commission members accuse New Hampshire voters of fraud

    Source: The Washington Post

    By David Weigel September 8 at 9:06 AM

    Days before they meet in New Hampshire, members of the White House’s Election Integrity Commission have seized on a report about same-day registration to allege that massive fraud might have swung the state’s 2016 vote. Both voters and election experts say the allegation — accusing thousands of voters of criminal activity simply for living in New Hampshire but holding out-of-state driver’s licenses — are baseless.

    The accusation arose Thursday morning, when Shawn Jasper, the speaker of New Hampshire’s Republican-run House of Representatives, released data on same-day registrants that he’d obtained from the secretary of state’s office. In November 2016, 6,540 voters had registered to vote on Election Day. As of Aug. 30, just 1,014 of those voters had obtained a New Hampshire drivers license. A few hundred voters did not obtain state licenses but had registered cars in the state.

    That was enough for Jasper to allege thousands of fraudulent votes — and for Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, the vice chairman of the commission, to flatly allege that fraudulent voters might have stolen the state’s four electoral votes and a U.S. Senate seat away from Republicans.

    “If 59.2 percent or more of them went for (Democratic Sen. Maggie) Hassan, then the election was stolen through voter fraud,” Kobach wrote in a column for Breitbart. “That’s likely, since the surrounding states are Democrat (sic) strongholds.”

  50. SouthernGirl2 says:
    September 8, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    I pray you are safe, Sunshine. May God’s mercy and grace protect you and your family.

  54. rikyrah says:
    September 8, 2017 at 2:04 pm

    sending you prayers, sunshine

  55. Liza says:
    September 8, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    I’ve been watching this on the weather channel. I hope you stay safe, Sunshine. Post updates if and when you can.

  56. Ametia says:
    September 8, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    Sunshine! Lady, you stay safe. You’re in our thoughts and hearts.

  57. sunshine616 says:
    September 8, 2017 at 1:23 pm

    There is literally no where to go. No gas and and half the state under mandatory evacuation. Roads backed up hotels packed. I have never been so damn scared in my life. Wish me luck chicas

  58. rikyrah says:
    September 8, 2017 at 12:39 pm

    LOL

    I saw this on Facebook
    She was hilarious. She was like – I am NOT going outside looking like this.
    If YOU like this, do it to YOUR hair and go outside looking like this..
    “Twists, please.”
    And, then the eyeroll.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BYxK0jHHJJF/

  63. Ametia says:
    September 8, 2017 at 9:50 am

    TRASH

  64. SouthernGirl2 says:
    September 8, 2017 at 9:42 am

    Just look at this! The effing #DOJ y’all. WTF kind of evil is this?

    https://twitter.com/pastortraci/status/906129617353879552

  68. Ametia says:
    September 8, 2017 at 9:24 am

    GOD DON’T LIKE UGLY

    Monster Hurricane Irma Barrels Toward Climate Change Deniers’ Playground
    The most powerful storm ever recorded in the Atlantic is headed straight for the beach houses of deniers Donald Trump, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and the Koch brothers.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/monster-hurricane-irma-barrels-toward-climate-change-deniers-playground?via=newsletter&source=DDMorning

  69. Ametia says:
    September 8, 2017 at 9:23 am

    Attorney General Announces Sara Netanyahu Will Be Indicted for Fraud
    The wife of Israel’s prime minister is being indicted over spending irregularities to the sum of over $100,000 at the prime minister’s residence

    Revital Hovel Sep 08, 2017 4:27 PM
    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.811274

  71. Ametia says:
    September 8, 2017 at 9:22 am

    TGIF, Everyone!

  73. yahtzeebutterfly says:
    September 8, 2017 at 6:13 am

    Amen.

  74. rikyrah says:
    September 8, 2017 at 1:47 am

    Prayers for everyone in Irma’s path 😥😥😥

  75. rikyrah says:
    September 8, 2017 at 1:46 am

    Good Morning, Everyone 😐😐😐

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