Tuesday Open Thread | So….those Dolt45 voters don’t REALLY believe in democracy?

The Trump effect: New study connects white American intolerance and support for authoritarianism
The research suggests that when intolerant white people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon their commitment to democracy.
May.27.2018 / 11:22 AM ET


A new study, however, suggests that the main threat to our democracy may not be the hardening of political ideology, but rather the hardening of one particular political ideology. Political scientists Steven V. Miller of Clemson and Nicholas T. Davis of Texas A&M have released a working paper titled “White Outgroup Intolerance and Declining Support for American Democracy.” Their study finds a correlation between white American’s intolerance, and support for authoritarian rule. In other words, when intolerant white people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon their commitment to democracy.


Black people, Asians, Native Americans and women were prevented from voting for significant stretches of American history. America’s tradition of democracy (for some) exists alongside a tradition of authoritarianism (for some). The survey data doesn’t show people rejecting American traditions, then, Miller says, so much as it shows “a preference for the sort of white-ethnocentrism that imbued much of the functional form of democracy for the better part of two centuries.”

The Founders supported democracy as long as it was restricted to white male property holders. Today, our understanding of democracy is more expansive — at least in theory.

In practice, the GOP has increasingly been embracing a politics of white resentment tied to disenfranchisement. “Since Richard Nixon’s ‘Southern Strategy,’ the GOP has pigeon-holed itself as, in large part, an aggrieved white people’s party,” Miller told me.


“The GOP has dug itself into such a hole on this that the most practical effort to stave off these impending losses is to disenfranchise the votes of the same ethnic/racial outgroups against whom GOP messaging has been stoking animosity,” Miller tells me. A party built on demonizing and attacking marginalized people is a party that will have to disenfranchise those same people if it is to survive.

Blaming authoritarianism on partisanship suggests that both sides are equally to blame for the erosion of democratic norms. But greater commitment to abortion rights and free healthcare in the Democratic party isn’t a threat to the foundations of democracy. The growing concentration of intolerant white voters in the GOP, on the other hand, has created a party which appears less and less committed to the democratic project. When faced with a choice between bigotry and democracy, too many Americans are embracing the first while abandoning the second.

So, stop with the economic anxiety. His policies are taking an axe to the WWC, yet, his support from them stays strong.
They never had a problem with WHITE socialism. They just had a problem with socialism that treated everyone equal. It’s why they choose to believe in the LIE of voter fraud, so that they can justify Voter suppression. They have no problem with supporting a traitor against the United States. All the while thinking that they can purse their lips to complain about athletes taking a knee in protest, trying to call THEM Un-American. Phuck outta here. They want to party like it’s 1948. But, NOBODY is playing with them.

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65 Responses to Tuesday Open Thread | So….those Dolt45 voters don’t REALLY believe in democracy?

  1. rikyrah says:

    This is one of my favorite YouTubers with her take on Monique.


  2. rikyrah says:

    You gotta be phucking kidding me 😠😠

    Bodak Red 💄 (@AFarray) Tweeted:
    RT @AlexCKaufman: Scott Pruitt repeatedly asked his 25-year-old staffers to put hotel reservations on their personal credit cards rather th… https://twitter.com/AlexCKaufman/status/1014129996418437121?s=17

  3. rikyrah says:

    Meet #NewportNancy

    Stacy Etheridge of Wellington Manor, Ga., posted a video on Facebook that was recorded by her daughter with the caption “Caucasian woman tells my daughter to put her cigarette out and decides to call the police on my daughter for smoking outside in a parking deck. Police showed up and said it was no harm to others….this calling the cops on Blacks is getting way out of hand. Now you can’t smoke outside. #NewportNancy”

  4. rikyrah says:

    June 23, 2016: Supreme Court upholds affirmative action in 4-3 decision.

    Aug. 19, 2016: Trump asks black voters: “What the hell do you have to lose?” by voting for him.

    July 3, 2018: Trump to rescind Obama-era guidelines on race and diversity in college.https://t.co/m1Ml9a51E6

    — Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) July 3, 2018

  5. rikyrah says:

    ICE is training its deportation officers in the use of M4 assault rifles, “chemical agents”, stun grenades, and flash bangs, according to federal procurement records I found.

    “Sounds like they’re getting ready for war,” a retired ICE agent told me.https://t.co/nVt6qSsikf

    — Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) July 3, 2018

  6. Liza says:

    File under “water is wet”…

  7. Liza says:

    Yes, but McConnell doesn’t care. He is a white supremacist.

  8. rikyrah says:

    As you celebrate our Independence Day think about those GOP reps in Moscow. Staying in luxury hotel, downing caviar and vodka shots. All while children are in prison camps in sweltering heat.
    Ask yourself who they represent, those GOP
    It’s not our country.
    It’s Trump pic.twitter.com/EYb9edgCNM

    — Mom (@Mom0U812) July 3, 2018

  9. rikyrah says:

    From Balloon Juice:

    Kay says:
    July 3, 2018 at 10:36 am
    After Republicans outlaw abortion there will be 50 debates in 50 states about how to put the ban in. There will be new laws, and the ban will reach all kinds of medical intervention related to pregnancy. There will be debates over how to punish women for obtaining an illegal abortion, indeed, how to define what they’re banning.

    They’ll be throwing out a huge body of law all of which is grounded in abortion being legal. All bets are off. I have no idea how it affects women and neither do any of them. They don’t care. You can tell they don’t care by the fact that they never discuss what happens when they reach their goal. That’s how little women and women’s health is valued. Not even discussed.

  10. Liza says:

    Saw this report last night on PBS Newshour. Impressive reporting by Jane Ferguson.

  11. Good morning, everyone.

    Getting things ready for the cookout. Tables and chairs are here. I’ll pick up the cake and meat today, snow cone machine is coming today. My brother is barbecuing two briskets, chicken and grilling Jalapeno poppers filled with shrimp, cream cheese & wrapped in bacon. Jason is bringing the second pit today. He’ll bbq a couple of roast and 3 slabs of ribs. My oldest will bbq burgers and sausage. These are some of our shirts.

  12. Ametia says:

    Pool Patrol Paula, Who Kicked Black Boys Out Of Pool, Can Now Play Life Guard At The Unemployment Office
    Good riddance!




  13. rikyrah says:

    DNC chairman introduces Obama as “the real president of the United States” hill.cm/5d7MJ3t https://t.co/3k6emJVLWH

    The Hill (@thehill) July 01, 2018

  14. rikyrah says:

    ‘Happy Independence Day’: Analyst busts GOP senator on Russian TV consorting with grandson of Stalin confidante
    David Edwards DAVID EDWARDS
    03 JUL 2018 AT 10:10 ET

    A Kremlin-funded television station this week broadcast images of Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) rubbing shoulders with Vyacheslav Nikonov, the grandson of Joseph Stalin’s foreign minister.

    In a tweet on Tuesday, Russian media analyst Julia Davis first noted that Shelby appeared on VTGRK, a news station funded by the Russian government.

    “GOP lawmakers requested that their meetings with members of the Russian government proceed in a closed format (no press allowed),” Davis wrote. “Here is @SenShelby chitchatting with [Vyacheslav Molotov’s] grandson, Vyacheslav Nikonov.”

    “Happy #IndependenceDay,” she added, later calling Shelby’s visit “surreal.”

  15. rikyrah says:

    July 3, 2018 at 9:47 am
    Judge Rules DHS Must Give Asylum Seekers Individualized Parole Hearings:

    “Trump administration must consider on an individual basis whether immigrants who come to the U.S. seeking asylum represent a flight risk
    or a danger to their community before they can be detained if they’ve proven a credible fear of persecution.”

  16. rikyrah says:

    Pruitt has literally committed every improper act that a Cabinet official can commit – and somehow still keeps his job. That’s why we need a Democratic Congress to conduct real oversight of this administration. https://t.co/lPQaSSkPrn

    — Chris Lu (@ChrisLu44) July 3, 2018

    An EPA whistleblower tells CNN Scott Pruitt directed his staff to scrub his official calendar to hide meetings https://t.co/9q9CAzL6mE https://t.co/Y772NW0yJS

    — Anderson Cooper 360° (@AC360) July 3, 2018

  17. rikyrah says:


    Immigration lawyer: ICE not offering bond to some separated families

    Rachel Maddow is joined by immigration lawyer Kate Lincoln-Goldfinch who says ICE has stopped allowing some of her clients to pay a bond so they can reunite with their children.

  18. rikyrah says:

    Cohen runs out of options

    Rachel Maddow speaks with Vanity Fair’s Emily Jane Fox about Michael Cohen’s strategy to change his legal team and participate in media interviews.

  19. rikyrah says:

    Dear Democrats:

    Policing your left flank on “Abolish ICE” is a sucker’s game.

    Instead, make this about Trump’s cruelty and incompetence.

    Trump is presiding over an immense moral and logistical disaster. You can win that argument.

    My post: https://t.co/o0l3GXV1JF

    — Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) July 2, 2018

  20. rikyrah says:

    Abp. Jose Gomez of Los Angeles, celebrated Mass with about 250 children in a detention center, including some who remain separated from family, on what once was the loading dock of a Walmart.
    “It was, as you can imagine, very challenging to see the children by themselves.” https://t.co/gHQiHFBM75

    — Rhina Guidos (@CNS_Rhina) July 3, 2018

  21. rikyrah says:

    EVERY Democrat needs the attitude of Ted Lieu, Maxine Waters, and Senator Maizie from Hawaii.


    Dear Alan Dershowitz: You seem bothered your friends in Martha’s Vineyard no longer invite you to nice dinners.

    I note the @POTUS you defend has ripped away babies & kids from parents. Over 2,000 kids have not been reunited & some may never be.

    Have a nice July 4th @AlanDersh. https://t.co/Xp0eKUtfm3

    — Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) July 3, 2018

  22. rikyrah says:


    It’s very simple: the punishment for an alleged misdemeanor cannot be you may lose your baby forever.

    — Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) July 3, 2018

  23. rikyrah says:

    Another big immigration victory for the @ACLU, as a federal judge orders the Trump admin to stop arbitrarily denying parole to asylum-seekers https://t.co/Nu56LRnfGh pic.twitter.com/dpvNGKHwVe

    — Alice Ollstein (@AliceOllstein) July 2, 2018

  24. rikyrah says:

    Michael Cohen’s new legal strategy

    Rachel Maddow explains Michael Cohen’s recent shift in legal strategy as he drops his joint defense agreement with President Trump.

  25. rikyrah says:

    In Trump era, fewer Americans feel proud of their country
    07/03/18 08:00 AM
    By Steve Benen
    In his latest Fox News interview, Donald Trump boasted, in apparent reference to Americans, “Our people have more pride then they used to have.” It’s a theme the president has been eager to push for a while.

    In May, the Republican delivered the commencement address at the U.S. Naval Academy and claimed, “We are witnessing the great reawakening of the American spirit and of American might. We have rediscovered our identity, regained our stride, and we are proud again.”

    In this case, it’s worth asking who, exactly, the president meant by “we.”

    Just 47 percent of adults in the U.S. say they are “extremely proud” to be American, the lowest share since polling organization Gallup first started asking that question nearly two decades ago.

    And that’s down ten points in just the last five years, from 57 percent in 2013.

  26. rikyrah says:

    Germany migrants: Merkel averts coalition government split

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel has reached a deal on immigration to end a row which threatened to break up her four-month-old coalition government.

    Interior Minister Horst Seehofer, who leads her Bavarian CSU allies, has now dropped his threat to resign.

    Mrs Merkel agreed to tighten controls at the Austrian border to stop people who have applied for asylum in other EU countries from entering Germany.

    Transit centres will be set up to hold them until they can be sent back.

    Mrs Merkel described the deal as a good compromise after tough negotiation.


  27. rikyrah says:

    Of course #WhiteNationalist, #EnemyOfTheFreePress, #Traitor, & #AllAroundAssWipe @realDonaldTrump refused to half-mast the Flag in honor of the slaughtered @capgaznews journalists.

    He Hates America & Democracy because he’s a tyrant & totally evil person. #Jail45#TrumpRussia pic.twitter.com/USzEB5GntP

    — Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) July 3, 2018

  28. rikyrah says:

    Jeffrey Toobin (@JeffreyToobin) Tweeted:
    See the new @USSupremeCourt clearly: Abortion illegal; doctors prosecuted; gay people barred from restaurants, hotels, stores; African-Americans out of elite schools; gun control banned in 50 states; the end of regulatory state. My @NewYorker column.

    https://t.co/ik0fa4XDIK https://twitter.com/JeffreyToobin/status/1013494911503564800?s=17

  29. rikyrah says:

    @kylegriffin1: The government now officially has access to 1,310,365 items seized in the Michael Cohen raid, and that’s only the beginni… https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1013867529331191808?s=17

  30. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄😄😄

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