Thursday Open Thread | There are stories you read that makes you blink numerous times, cause you can’t believe them

This is one of those stories.
Hat tip – reader at Balloon Juice

Tens of Thousands With Outstanding Warrants Purged From Background Check Database

Tens of thousands of people wanted by law enforcement officials have been removed this year from the FBI criminal background check database that prohibits fugitives from justice from buying guns.

The names were taken out after the FBI in February changed its legal interpretation of “fugitive from justice” to say it pertains only to wanted people who have crossed state lines.

What that means is that those fugitives who were previously prohibited under federal law from purchasing firearms can now buy them, unless barred for other reasons.


After Trump was inaugurated, the Justice Department further narrowed the definition to those who have fled across state lines to avoid prosecution for a crime or to avoid giving testimony in a criminal proceeding.

On Feb. 15, the FBI directed its employees in the Criminal Justice Information Services Division to remove all entries of fugitives from justice from the background check database and said that “entries will not be permitted” under that category until further notice. Before the FBI memo, there were about 500,000 people identified as fugitives from justice in the database — and all of those names were removed.

Now there are 788.

Think on that.
TO 788.

Just out there, people.
Not on the database.
Guess what they can do now..


Does this make you feel MORE SAFE… or LESS SAFE…

They are all Law and Order when it comes to Non-White folks..

But, they can’t study White Racist Nationalist Groups..
But, they can Black Lives Matter…

And now, we have a fugitive database, which has pretty much been eliminated.

Now, tell me Ladies and Gentlemen…what would happen if 44 had done this?

Uh huh
Uh huh.

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95 Responses to Thursday Open Thread | There are stories you read that makes you blink numerous times, cause you can’t believe them

  1. rikyrah says:

    Yashar Ali
    🐘‏Verified account @yashar

    Trump isn’t going to Alabama to campaign for Moore — but plans to hold a rally next door. @jdawsey1 is scoopin’ at the Post

  2. rikyrah says:

    They are TRIFLING.

    They have NO Home Training.

  3. rikyrah says:

    Mikel Jollett


    Guys, the Republican are trying to overhaul the entire economy to redistribute a massive amount of money from the poor to the rich in one bill with no CBO score, no hearings, not even a final text.

    9:27 AM – Nov 30, 2017

  4. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    “With prosecutions over, six Baltimore officers back at work after death of Freddie Gray”

    One officer now patrols the Baltimore waterfront. Another works with the unit that polices the city in helicopters. A third officer, now a detective, investigates powerful drug rings.

    Today, all six officers who were charged in the arrest and death of Freddie Gray case are back on duty.

    None are back to patrolling the streets of West Baltimore, where Gray was arrested in 2015 and suffered a severe injury in the back of a police van.

    “They were offered positions outside the patrol division, and they’re satisfied with their assignments,” said Michael Davey, the attorney for the union that represents Baltimore police officers.

  5. Liza says:

    Not to worry, it’s not your eyes. SG2 turned on the snow, :).

  6. Ametia says:

    -It’s Rep. Conyers’ Right To Fight Allegations, Rep. Gwen Moore Says
    November 30, 20177:33 AM ET
    Heard on Morning Edition

    Listen· 7:07

    SNIP: Rep Moore had to CHIN CHECK David Greene

    GREENE: I know you say it’s his choice, but I want to ask you about, you know, the choice of the caucus and how to respond to things like this because even before the Conyers sexual harassment allegations became public, there were some questions about how the CBC responded to things like this. In October, your colleague Congresswoman Eddie Bernice Johnson of Texas was criticized by many for suggesting that women can bear some responsibility for being sexually harassed. And we should say she later walked that back. But given that, given the response to Conyers, do you worry at all about the credibility of a caucus that has this foundation in the civil rights movement.

    MOORE: David, interrupt you right now.

    GREENE: Please, no, please.

    MOORE: Let me interrupt you right now. First of all, this is not a, quote, unquote, “Congressional Black Caucus problem.” The problem of sexual harassment is very pervasive. I wouldn’t be shocked or stunned if there were a hundred men in this body on both sides of the aisle in both chambers who are accused of this behavior. Sexual predation is pervasive not only in Congress but in our society. We need – this is a social problem that has bubbled up at this time. And so for you to characterize this as some sort of Congressional Black Caucus problem, I take offense to that. And just let me say, the Congressional Black Caucus met yesterday, and we categorically are opposed to sexual assault. We stand firm on that ground.
    As a matter of fact, the Congressional Black Caucus has taken leadership in promoting sexual assault training. We have one of our members from Detroit, by the way, Brenda Lawrence, who has taken the lead, along with Jackie Speier, in reforming the means, methods, modes for women to be able to come forth with their complaints that are not as arduous and grueling as the current process. And so, David, I would have to say, no, this is not a Congressional Black Caucus problem.

    GREENE: Well, Congressman, I want to say forgive me if I came across in any way suggesting that.

    MOORE: Yeah, you did come across that way.

  7. rikyrah says:

    Another story from Dolt45’s America..
    Just getting those CRIMINALS, right?

    O. Felix Culpa says:
    November 30, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    A story about the consequences of electing vermin

    Ms. O works for a school-to-work transition program for high school students with disabilities. Yesterday she got an emergency phone call: the parents of one of their students just got deported and this young man with disabilities and his younger brother are now effectively orphaned. A lowly paid job coach is volunteering to drive the young man to his internship and they’re trying to figure out long term support for these forcibly abandoned kids. I can’t imagine how frantic their parents must feel.

    Fuck Trump and his enablers. That is all

  8. rikyrah says:

    Sessions hints at crackdown on recreational pot, affecting California, other states
    NOVEMBER 29, 2017 06:12 PM

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions hinted Wednesday that the Justice Department may take a tougher stance on recreational marijuana in the near future, a change in policy that would have a significant impact on the five states plus the District of Columbia that already allow the drug to be used for more than medicinal purposes.

    California is scheduled to join that group on Jan. 1.

    Sessions and other DOJ officials previously indicated they would continue the policy laid out by the department under former President Barack Obama, which in essence allows state officials leeway in how they deal with the drug as long as they meet certain standards, like keeping cannabis out of the hands of minors, keeping it from crossing into states where it isn’t legal and preventing drugged driving.

    Marijuana, however, remains illegal under federal law, and there was always the possibility the Trump administration could crack down.

    “In fact, we’re looking at that very hard right now, we had a meeting yesterday and talked about it at some length,” Sessions said at a press conference Wednesday. “It’s my view that the use of marijuana is detrimental, and we should not give encouragement in any way to it, and it represents a federal violation, which is in the law and is subject to being enforced.”

  9. rikyrah says:

    I had never heard of @DanaNessel until about ten minutes ago, and after watching this ad several times, I now want to know everything about her. Goodness gracious, THIS is how a Democrat should talk. She’s got my support.— Charlotte Clymer🏳️‍🌈 (@cmclymer) November 30, 2017

  10. Liking young teen girls is not of Yahweh, the God “I AM”. It’s a perversion of Christianity. A counterfeit. A hoax. You’re mocking the Gospel. The Scripture is clear. Galatians 6:7-9 God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

  11. rikyrah says:

    NFL Players Just Sold Kaepernick’s Protests for $100 Million. Are They Sellouts or Heroes?
    Michael Harriot and Stephen A. Crockett Jr.
    Today 12:13pm

    A group of players in the National Football League accepted an offer from NFL owners for $100 million for social justice causes in exchange for … umm … I want to use a term that expresses the exact sentiment while still conveying a modicum of journalistic integrity. I think the most precise way to describe what the owners want in exchange for this obscene amount of cash is an Old English term called “Shutting the fuck up.”

    Actually, none of the parties involved will say outright that the proposed sum is a payoff for discontinuing the protests against injustice and equality during the national anthem.

    A group of mostly black players calling themselves “The Players Coalition” held a conference call on Wednesday evening and accepted the offer, according to the Chicago Tribune. The group was started by Malcolm Jenkins of the Philadelphia Eagles and former NFL wide receiver Anquan Boldin. However, the article reports that there are close to 40 players who want to reject the offer, including Miami Dolphins safety Michael Thomas and 49ers safety Eric Reid.

    • Liza says:

      Equal Justice Initiative‏Verified account
      3h3 hours ago

      Typically costing $65, pedestrian tickets significantly disrupt the lives of poor people, who were about six times as likely to receive a pedestrian citation as those living in the city’s more affluent zip codes

      Equal Justice Initiative‏Verified account

      The sheriff’s office said issuing tickets is necessary to reduce fatalities in Florida’s most populous city, which has one of the highest pedestrian fatality rates in the country.

      But ProPublica found no strong relationship between where tickets are issued and where fatalities occur.

      In fact, census tracts where the population is mostly black had similar numbers of deadly crashes compared to other neighborhoods, but residents there were ticketed anywhere from two to five times as much.

      Equal Justice Initiative‏Verified account

      The Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office told reporters that its officers use pedestrian infractions to stop, question, and search people they perceive as suspicious.

      Equal Justice Initiative‏Verified account

      Even larger racial disparities exist in ticketing for violations of less-familiar statutes.

      For example, 78% of all tickets for “walking in the roadway where sidewalks are provided” were issued to black pedestrians, as were 68% of tickets for “failing to cross the road at a right angle or shortest route.”

      Equal Justice Initiative‏Verified account

      Almost a third of all tickets issued in this period went to African American males from age 14 to 35.

      Equal Justice Initiative‏Verified account

      Black pedestrians received 55 percent of the tickets issued even though the city’s population is only 29 percent black.

  12. .@GOP @JeffFlake @SenBobCorker Do you not care about the racism and hatred Trump is spreading across the world? You have the power to stop this. Why do you remain silent when everyone can see how dangerous he is to America and the world?

  13. rikyrah says:

    important to understand why all GOP supports such horrendous tax bill

    bc it’s not just a “tax” bill. it’s an abortion bill. it’s a gun bill. it’s a cut-Medicare and Social Security bill

    and they get to pass it ALL w/o hearings or debate

    — Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) November 30, 2017

  14. rikyrah says:

    Gene Sperling‏Verified account @ genebsperling
    The GOP tax plan designed to politically punish California & dramatically increase impact of CA state & local taxes moves closer & closer. 11 House GOP from CA have complete power to block. Instead, they’re caving to crass GOP politics at expense of CA families. Time to speak up.

  15. rikyrah says:

    Stuart Rothenberg‏ @ StuPolitics
    It’s interesting that so many members of the media think passing the tax bill is more important for Trump & the GOP than what is in the bill and who wins/loses.

  16. rikyrah says:

    A comment from BJ:

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes says:
    November 30, 2017 at 10:18 am

    The aim is to create Mississippi 1930 on a broad scale.

    To recap:

    1. Donald is right – the Mueller investigations are done before the end of the year, because he’s pardoning everybody, including himself. The GOP will do nothing outside of a couple of expressions of concern.

    2. Crosscheck is going to be weaponized for 2018 so as to institutionalize the GOP as the American version of the PRI.

    3. This tax bill is intensely ideological, and fits a number of categories that ALEC has been chipping at for years. Those blue city/blue state taxation schemes fund a lot of things that make life broadly better. Conservative ideologues want government large enough for some slush and sinecures for high level cronies, and for badly trained cops to kick the shit out of n****rs, sp*cs, f*gs and poor white trash, but little else. This gets them toward that goal.

    4. Next up will be repeal of the 17th amendment. What little black and urban representation that will be allowed will be swarmed in the state legislatures by white rural/exurban members.

    5. What this country looks like 10 years from now economically and socially resembles a cross between Russia after the Crimean War, 1920s China and Spain under Franco.

    • Liza says:

      “What this country looks like 10 years from now economically and socially resembles a cross between Russia after the Crimean War, 1920s China and Spain under Franco.”

      What I’ve been thinking. I’ve started to believe that they will leave this country in shambles even if they are voted out in 2018. They’ve had enough time to destroy the country and they seem hell bent on doing it.

  17. rikyrah says:

    I told you…

    They’d sell their mothers to Lucifer for those tax cuts.

    4/ More than a few Members have told me, “We have to get the tax bill out. That’s why we put up with him.” Now, that’s not *entirely* why they put up with him, but ride with that as the framing idea for a moment.— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) November 30, 2017

  18. rikyrah says:


    hat tip- BJ

    1. The individual mandate repeal would cause health insurance premiums to rise sharply and millions to lose coverage.

    2. The CBO estimates the bill’s automatic spending cuts would slash Medicare by $25B annually.

    3. It would blow up the deficit by at least $1.4T, providing Republicans with an evergreen excuse to cut popular New Deal programs. (Lil’ Marco has already admitted this.)

    4. It would hurt the poor, the middle class, students, retirees, etc., to give rich parasites like the Trumps, DeVoses, Princes, Kochs, Mercers, et al, billions in tax relief annually. Forever.

    5. It will exacerbate the already critical problem of wealth inequality and undercut local blue state governments’ ability to assist their vulnerable populations.

  19. rikyrah says:

    More on the GOP Tax Scam:

    Some measures are barely connected to the realm of taxation, such as the lifting of a 1954 ban on political activism by churches and the conferring of a new legal right for fetuses in the House bill — both on the wish list of the evangelical right.

    With a potentially far-reaching dimension, elements in both the House and Senate bills could constrain the ability of states and local governments to levy their own taxes, pressuring them to limit spending on health care, education, public transportation and social services. In their longstanding battle to shrink government, Republicans have found in the tax bill a vehicle to broaden the fight beyond Washington.

    The result is a behemoth piece of legislation that could widen American economic inequality while diminishing the power of local communities to marshal relief for vulnerable people — especially in high-tax states like California and New York, which, not coincidentally, tend to vote Democratic.

  20. rikyrah says:

    Ok, I’m not for harrassment, but gotta call foul on some of this.

    Reading one of the ‘ instances’ of Conyers and went WHAT THE PHUCK?!

    I’m still back at the description of the harrassment….

    I’ll ask again…

    WHO out here has had their BOSS in their BEDROOM – and it’s NOT a HOUSEWARMING TOUR?

    Shyt don’t make no sense.

  21. rikyrah says:

    We’re mobilizing our members to take action — CALL 844-502-4371 and tell your Senators to vote NO on Medicare cuts and a tax hike for seniors! Keep following us for updates -Caroline D.— AARP (@AARP) November 30, 2017

  22. Y’all KNOW he’s lying his ass off. This is right up there with him lying about thousands and thousands of Muslims cheering on 9/11.

  23. rikyrah says:

    The GOP Tax Scam


    The tax plan has been marketed by President Trump and Republican leaders as a straightforward if enormous rebate for the masses, a $1.5 trillion package of cuts to spur hiring and economic growth. But as the bill has been rushed through Congress with scant debate, its far broader ramifications have come into focus, revealing a catchall legislative creation that could reshape major areas of American life, from education to health care.

  24. rikyrah says:

    So, you mean that the Secretary of Exxon might not get his $ 71 million dollar tax break?

    Oh, the horror.

    NYTimes story on Tillerson being pushed to the exit.

    It was not immediately clear whether Mr. Trump has given final approval to the plan, but he has been said to have soured on Mr. Tillerson and in general is ready to make a change at the State Department. John F. Kelly, the White House chief of staff, developed the transition plan and has discussed it with other officials.

    Under his plan, the shake-up of the national security team would happen around the end of the year or shortly afterward. But for all of his public combativeness, Mr. Trump is notoriously reluctant to fire people, and it was not known if Mr. Tillerson had agreed to step down by then. Public disclosure of Mr. Kelly’s transition plan may be meant as a signal to the secretary that it is time to go.

    …. The ouster of Mr. Tillerson would end a turbulent reign at the State Department for the former Exxon Mobil chief executive, who has been largely marginalized over the last year. Mr. Trump and Mr. Tillerson have been at odds over a host of major issues, including the Iran nuclear deal, the confrontation with North Korea and a clash between Arab allies. The secretary was reported to have privately called Mr. Trump a “moron” and the president publicly criticized Mr. Tillerson for “wasting his time” with a diplomatic outreach to North Korea.

    Mr. Tillerson’s departure has been widely anticipated for months, but associates have said he was intent on finishing out the year to retain whatever dignity he could. Even so, an end-of-year exit would make his time in office the shortest of any secretary of state whose tenure was not ended by a change in presidents in nearly 120 years.

    ….Mr. Tillerson’s appointment was something of an experiment from the start. Never before had a president named a secretary of state with no prior experience in government, politics or the military. Mr. Trump, who himself had no government or military experience before this year**, bet that Mr. Tillerson would be able to translate his formidable skills in the corporate world to international diplomacy after 41 years at Exxon Mobil. [** I think I see your problem, folks.]

    But Mr. Tillerson has often been on a different page than Mr. Trump, and he has spent much of his time reorganizing the State Department, slashing its budget and pushing out more than 2,000 career diplomats. Even on that he ran into serious troubles. Just this week, the counselor he brought in to execute his plan quit after just three months.

    A sign of his fading fortunes in the White House has been the changing views of Mr. Kelly. Once a defender of Mr. Tillerson, Mr. Kelly is described by colleagues as now having mixed opinions, seeing him as a wounded figure who may no longer be able to be as effective as the president needs his secretary to be.

  25. rikyrah says:

    The Trump campaign’s Russia-connected contacts – annotated list
    11/29/17 09:50 PM—UPDATED 11/30/17 12:26 AM

    1. Sergey Kislyak (1, 2, 3)
    2. Sergey Gorkov (4)

    3. Felix Sater (5)

    4. Sergei Gordeev (6)

    5. Konstantin Kilimnik (7, 8)

    6. Oleg Deripaska (9)

    7. Alexander Torshin (10, 11)

    8. Natalia Veselnitskaya (12, 13)

    9. Rinat Akhmetshin (14)

    10. Ike Kaveladze (15)

    11. Emin Agalarov (16)

    12. Shlomo Weber (17, 18)

    13. Russian Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich (19, 18)

    14. Andrey Baranov (20, 18)

    15. Igor Sechin (21) (disputed by Carter Page)

    16. Joseph Mifsud (22)

    17. Ivan Timofeev (23)

    18. Olga Polonskaya (23, 24)

    19. Kirill Dmitriev (25)

    Each number links to a story about them and Trump Campaign contact. Find those links at the story.

  26. rikyrah says:

    Trump campaign had at least 19 Russia-connected contacts
    Rachel Maddow updates a running list of Russia-connected contacts by members of the Donald Trump campaign, bringing the count to 19, with the open possibility of new ones being exposed

  27. rikyrah says:

    Jared Kushner met with Robert Mueller in Trump Russia probe: NYT
    Rachel Maddow replays breaking news from the New York Times that Jared Kushner has spoken with special counsel Robert Mueller, with additional reporting from CNN that the main subject of discussion was Mike Flynn.

  28. rikyrah says:

    Mike Rosenberg‏Verified account
    11h11 hours ago
    Can’t stop thinking about how Matt Lauer made $25 million a year while 23,000 U.S. journalists have lost their jobs since 2007.

  29. rikyrah says:

    NBC News fires Matt Lauer over sexual allegations
    Stephanie Gosk, correspondent for NBC News, talks with Rachel Maddow about the firing of Matt Lauer for “inappropriate sexual behavior” and the challenges of reporting on a story within one’s own company.

  30. rikyrah says:

    China Has a Plan to Rule the World

    …As foreign scientists pull back from some U.S. labs because of visa and government-grant worries, the Chinese are doubling down. According to the second Air Force study, China surpasses the United States in annual patent applications, is now No. 2 in peer-reviewed research articles and in 2014 awarded more than twice as many degrees in science, technology, engineering and math.

    China is mobilizing its best tech talent for this global empire. China Telecom plans to lay a 150,000-kilometer fiber-optic network covering 48 African nations. IZP, a big-data company, plans to expand soon to 120 countries. BeiDou, a government agency, is building a GPS-like satellite navigation system for all Eurasia.

    There’s an eerie sense in today’s world that China is racing to capture the commanding heights of technology and trade. Meanwhile, under the banner of “America first,” the Trump administration is protecting coal-mining jobs and questioning climate science.

    Sorry, friends, but this is how empires rise and fall.

  31. rikyrah says:

    A good description of the horror Xmas decorations at the WH:

    Sab says:
    November 30, 2017 at 8:54 am

    Poor kids. The White House Xmas reminds me of the Beast’s palace in Jean Cocteau’s “Beauty and the Beast”, with all the wall sconces that were disembodied arms holding torches.

  32. rikyrah says:

    World astonished at yet more falsehoods from Donald Trump
    Eric Mouthaan, correspondent for RTL Dutch TV, talks with Rachel Maddow about Donald Trump’s retweet of a false anti-Muslim propaganda video and the reaction of the world to a U.S. president who so regularly disgraces himself and his country.

  33. rikyrah says:

    Greg Sargent‏Verified account


    Treasury Sec Mnuchin promised an analysis showing tax cuts will pay for themselves.

    But Treasury has not released it yet, one source admits, because no such analysis exists:

  34. rikyrah says:

    No Lie Told.

    From BJ:

    Kay says:
    November 30, 2017 at 7:35 am

    You have to credit the Trump Administration for not just spreading their lying, mean-spirited bullshit in or about THIS country- they also spread nastiness internationally. They are really ambitious assholes. Over-achievers on the asshole scale. Ordinary asshole Presidents limit their racist fear-mongering to “the water’s edge”- not this crowd. They have to gin up their compatriots overseas, too. Pure poison. Trump’s tweets consist of 2 subjects- attacking other people and boasting about himself. Still, political media search for some silver lining, some “grown up” who is REALLY running the government when all the public statements of all the low quality Trump hires indicate what a rational person would have started with- they’re assholes too. It’s WHY he hired them.

  35. rikyrah says:

    Emotionally he’s a mess. But politically he’s in control, The media has spent weeks focusing on sexual misconduct (other than his). Meanwhile he guts the CFPB and net neutrality. Senate poised to pass an awful tax bill. Then confirm some judges. Wake up!

    — Richard W. Painter (@RWPUSA) November 29, 2017

  36. rikyrah says:

    Hmmm, Marco Rubio says that the tax plan is just the first step before “instituting structural changes to Social Security and Medicare” benefits to reduce the federal deficit.

    — Glenn Kessler (@GlennKesslerWP) November 29, 2017

  37. rikyrah says:

    Maryland, D.C. AGs get permission to subpoena @realdonaldTrump’s companies in suit over foreign emoluments

    — David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) November 29, 2017

  38. rikyrah says:

    Please shoot me: This limited edition Trump 45 gun finished in 24 karat gold is on sale for between $15,000 and $50,000 cc: @doctorow

    — Christian Nightmares (@ChristnNitemare) November 28, 2017

  39. rikyrah says:

    Mueller’s team has postponed an anticipated grand jury testimony linked to his investigation into Michael Flynn amid growing indications of possible plea deal discussions.

    — Anthony De Rosa 🗽 (@Anthony) November 29, 2017

  40. rikyrah says:

    If Stone is charged with a crime, his false statements to journalists and others could be used against him.

    — Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) November 30, 2017

    Two ways:

    1) If he takes the stand, he can be asked about these matters and then can be confronted with prior statements if he changes his story.

    2) His prior statements can be used as direct evidence if they are relevant to the offense. A defendant’s statements are admissible.

    — Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) November 30, 2017

  41. rikyrah says:

    A New York radio personality was Roger Stone’s Wikileaks contact

    — CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) November 29, 2017

  42. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄😄😄

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