State of Florida vs George Zimmerman Trial (day 12 )

Judge Debra Nelson 19(CNN) — In a hearing Tuesday outside of the jury’s presence, attorneys in the George Zimmerman trial argued about whether jurors should see the defense’s 3D re-creation of the altercation between the neighborhood watch captain and Trayvon Martin.

The defense also wants jurors to hear about Martin’s text messages, which reportedly show he had been in fights and was trying to purchase a gun.

The judge recessed court right before 10 p.m. ET, saying she would wait until Wednesday morning to make decisions on both of these issues. Defense attorney Don West vented his frustration as the judge left the bench, saying he was having trouble keeping up with the long hours and fast-paced schedule of the trial.

“I’m not physically able to keep up this pace much longer,” West said. “It’s 10 o’clock at night. We started this morning. We’ve had full days every day, weekends, depositions at night.”

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231 Responses to State of Florida vs George Zimmerman Trial (day 12 )

  1. IF a black man armed with a 9mm jumps out of his car, chases an unarmed white kid & kills him would pundits be talking about self defense?

  2. If pundits can’t quote Dr. King when it comes to our rights to equal justice under the law or our right to vote…PLEASE STFU!

  3. I wanna know why aren’t pundits speaking about Trayvon’s rights? The kid was scared and he ran. GZ followed & killed him. Where are Trayvon Martin rights?

  4. rikyrah says:


    thank you for your coverage of this trial.

    you’ll never know how much I appreciated being able to come and keep up with this trial because of 3CHICS

    • YVW, Rikyrah! We’re all supporters united together seeking justice for a young kid who was minding his own business & talking with a girl on the phone. He was gunned down so brutally and police treated him worse than dog. They felt he was unworthy of a thorough investigation. My soul is grieved.

  5. Liza says:

    Good information here….

    Even If George Zimmerman Found Not Guilty Of Murder And Manslaughter, He Could Still Get 25 Years
    by Richard Hornsby
    10:05 pm, July 9th, 2013
    To many people, there is no middle ground: George Zimmerman will either be convicted of Second Degree Murder or he will be found Not Guilty.

    But the reality is much more complex, because the jury will have a number of Lesser Included Offenses to choose from.

    Read the article…

    Richard Hornsby is a board certified Florida criminal trial lawyer.

  6. Witnesses come into court LIE their asses off & nothing is done. Witnesses are caught red-handed violating rules. Nothing is done. No one is held accountable! This is some f’d up ISH!

    • Ametia says:

      It’s called teh protection of the complexion, SG2.

    • GrannyStandingforTruth says:

      No comment. It’s best that I don’t say what I’m thinking right now because I am turning colors right now and my forehead feels like an overheated furnace. knowwhatimean?

  7. Xena says:

    Well, Donnelley just cursed George. When people are motivated by hate to do evil, it sends negative energy to the person they are trying to help. Proof? ShelLIE is charged with perjury, awaiting trial, and STILL BROKE and UNEMPLOYED.

  8. Judge Nelson denies state’s motion for violation of witness sequestration rules.

    • GrannyStandingforTruth says:

      I’m not surprise. This is a good example of institutionalize racism and how it operates. Nonwhite people have no rights.

      • I cannot BELIEVE this ISH! What’s the point of having rules if they’re not enforced. Got dammit!

      • Ametia says:

        Oh we have RIGHTS, Granny. We just have to FIGHT for them ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.

        I think the fix is in to a lesser charge from 2nd degree murder.

      • Ametia says:

        @SG2. Oh I can believe it, the drums have been beating this week alerting folks to stay calm about the outcome of the trial. Now whom do you think the FOLKS are that need to stay calm?

        The NEGROES who like to riot, of course.

        If they let Zimmerman walk, there will be a REVOLUTION, and they can televise it if they’d like.

  9. Defense attorney Mark O’Mara confirms John Donnelly was sitting in the second row.

  10. Ametia says:

    O’Mara is basically daring JN to charge Donnelly, especially for violating sequestration rules.

    • GrannyStandingforTruth says:

      Yep, and he seems to get away with it too. I wonder if she’ll let him have his way this time too. Time will tell. Smh!

    • Ametia says:

      MOM tries to throw out bullshit cases to intimidate JN into letting things slide. it’s a distraction, of course. I’m still PISSED about her allowing the defense to show that animation video in closing.

      • GrannyStandingforTruth says:

        Ametia, it is the South. They plan to let Zimmerman walk.

      • Ametia says:

        I think they’ve been signaling sinse last week that GZ’s going to roam free. I’m not pleased with the state’s case, so far. They’d better have a KILLER closing. PUN INTENDED. I’m not sure about the jury either. Teh moment we were informed that there were no BLACKS on theat jury, my head throbbed.

  11. Selah says:

    I’m trying to view this case as objectively as I can y’all….boy is this tough

    • Ametia says:

      It’s not tough for me, Selah, when practically every word that comes out the defense witnesses mouths (the SUBJECTS) are bald-faced LIES.

      • GrannyStandingforTruth says:

        I cosign with you Ametia.

      • Ametia says:

        JN denies states motion for sequestration violation. Stevie Wonder could see this coming.

      • Selah says:

        I know. I’ve talked to a lot of people who feel the exact same way. I’ve also talked to a lot of people who feel the opposite and believe the state’s witnesses are not credible. Not a lot of people on the other hand are viewing this completely objectively. Either view everyone as being honest or view everyone as being a liar.

      • GrannyStandingforTruth says:

        Selah, you have a brain, ears, and eyes. What do you think?

    • Ametia says:

      @Granny. Great question. I not trying to tag along behind what other folks think. I know what I see, hear, and feel, through the eyes, ears, and feelings of my life experiences.

  12. Judge Nelson said she was investigating another witness who may have violated sequestration rule, but didn’t make name public.

    All of these witnesses are in cahoots to lie to the court.

  13. Xena says:

    O’Mara is dancing all over the place to avoid talking about Donnelley.

  14. Ametia says:

    3 defense witnesses VIOLATED teh rules of SEQUESTRATION. JN will investigate.

    Stop making excuses O’Mara. Your shoddy witnesses are bottom feeders.

  15. Prosecution: Witnesses John Donnelly, John Good and Olivia Bartalan violated sequestration rules.

  16. Richard Mantei: Witness John Donnelly sat through two days of testimony

    Witness Donnelly was in court this week

    Witness Donnelly was in court this week.

    John Donnelly, GZ witness, sits in courtroom on second day of testimony, breaking rules of court

    John Donnelly, GZ witness, sits in courtroom on second day of testimony, breaking rules of court

  17. Judge Nelson told the jury they will be released until 10 a.m. tomorrow.

  18. Ametia says:

    O’Mara likes to cite other self defense cases, because he knows there really IS no JUSTIFICATION for George Zimmerman claim of self defense.

  19. Judge Nelson: We will do our jury instructions tonight

  20. Ametia says:

    JN: I’d like to start closing auguments tomorrow.

    John Guy is saying 3 hours for state closing. O’Mara: 3 hours is enough.

  21. The State wants to call alcohol enforcement officer who was battered by George Zimmerman at a bar.

  22. Ametia says:

    WTF is up with state. They’re fumbling.

  23. Richard Mantei says he called Adam Pollock to impeach the testimony of witness Dennis Root

  24. Ametia says:

    Mr. Pollock is a fucking BULLY & GRIFTER just like every witness that has sat on that stand in defense of GZ.

  25. Court is back in session..

  26. TMWarrior ‏@NotSure9
    As soon as the bell Rang Mantei scored a huge over hand right flooring Pollock with a single shot leaving the defense reeling to the ropes


    Boxer knockout

  27. roderick2012 says:

    I guess we will never know what those inflammatory text messages and emails entail unless the DOJ brings federal charges against Fatback.

  28. Ametia says:

    Zimmerman tell Judge Nelson he will not testify in his defense. SHOCKER!!!!

    • roderick2012 says:

      But, but, George, what about the masses?

      And the donors who believed in you?


      • Ametia says:

        Hi Liza. I just want to spit nails every time I hear about that animation video. Why would they need to show that cartoon of Zimmerman, when the jury has already seen the video of Zimmerman explaining his lying account of what went down?

      • Liza says:

        That’s a good question, Ametia. I think that they are just hoping to put one over on the jury. As in an “expert” studied this and produced this cartoon therefore it must be reliable. But unlike a reconstruction of a car crash that is based on physical wreckage, this is based on what people said happened. So I hope the jury dismisses it for what it is – a cartoon.

    • Liza says:

      That cartoon starring George Zimmerman is going to stand in for the real George who would get buried in his lies and contradictions. George can’t pull it off, and his creepy ass defense lawyers and their consultants figure they can’t take a chance on him.

  29. Court is in recess for 15 minutes.

  30. Attorneys having discussion at the bench

  31. Did Adam Pollock just lie about not advertising Zimmerman on his web site?


    • Ametia says:

      All the lies Pollock and the other witnesses have told, will come back and bite them clear in the ass. The chickens will come home to roost.

  32. The State calls gym owner Adam Pollock for rebuttal.

    • Michael Skolnik ‏@MichaelSkolnik



      He hit a woman and threatened to cut off her fingers and toes.

      • Ametia says:

        WOW; unfreakingbelievable! All that training and power just breeds aggression and base-level violence, now doesn’t it. Pollock, along with Zimmerman, West, and O’Mara are all COWARDS.

      • Liza says:

        That was the woman who bilked him out of some money. But he really is a dirtbag.

  33. Judge Nelson says there is substantial evidence for the case to go to the jury! Motion for Acquittal has been DENIED!

  34. Mark O’Mara is renewing his motion for a judgement of acquittal.

  35. The State will call 2 rebuttal witnesses.

    • GrannyStandingforTruth says:

      Why only two rebuttal witnesses? They need to call every lying witness the defense had. Black folks need to move from Sanford, Florida, especially if they have male offsprings. I worry about my cousin who lives in Florida since Trayvon’s murder came to light and my cousin is a lawyer. However, I know that racism does not respect or see any black person as decent or law-abiding citizens, racism only sees stereotypes. Racism even disrespects and stereotypes the President and First Lady of the USA because they are black people.

      • They have 3 rebuttal withnesses. 2 will be heard today & if I am correct 1 tomorrow.

      • GrannyStandingforTruth says:

        Oh okay. I decided not to get up early this morning and taped it instead. I’m on pacific time. Going to bed late and getting up a couple of hours later was a little too much. Thank God for DirectTV.

  36. GZ ran down a kid in the dark b/c he had a gun but won’t get on the stand. Punk ass coward!

  37. WTF is the photo of TM at 7-11 about? He’s buying candy & a drink. He’s not breaking the law. O’Mara is a true a-hole!

    • roderick2012 says:

      He’s not breaking the law-technically you’re wrong because Trayvon was breathing while black in the video.

      That’s clearly a criminal offense.

  38. Xena says:

    Bernie is slick. He has Papa Zim on recall; will probably ask about his meeting with investigators asking that they conclude their investigation and not charge George.

  39. GrannyStandingforTruth says:

    Good morning ladies and gentlemen. I am here.

  40. Next witness up

    Robert Zimmerman Sr

    • This lying slithering snake in the grass know damn well that’s not GZ screaming.

      • Xena says:

        @SG2. Yeah, but Papa Zim knows that unless he does what George wants, George will write a tell-all book describing why he engaged in sexual abuse at the encouragement of his parents to prevent him from being gay like his older brother. He’ll tell of Papa’s drinking problem, and his parents’ numerous separations.

      • roderick2012 says:

        Xena: why he engaged in sexual abuse at the encouragement of his parents to prevent him from being gay like his older brother.


        I always thought that Papa Zim sexually abused both Junior and George and that’s why Papa Zim has gone out of his way to protect George–actually protecting himself from being exposed to the world as a pedophile.

        Just yesterday I was surfing on my favorite astrology blogs and one of the regular posters is following this trial and she said that transiting Saturn was exactly conjunct George’s natal Saturn at 4 degrees Scorpio (Saturn Return) so it’s still hovering somewhere close to that today and George had to decide whether he was going to testify and tell his own story.

        I see Saturn’s judgement will be weighing heavy on Fatback for a couple more weeks–maybe that includes sentencing.

        • Xena says:

          @roderick2012. So, you too discern that the surge of support for GZ is to prevent blackmail?

          I’m not that trained in astrology to understand much about planetary returns, but I do understand with folks like GZ that the chickens do come home to roost. GZ is dysfunctional and his conscience only allows him to make self-serving choices. So let the planets do what they do. Let karma do what it does.

      • roderick2012 says:

        Xena: I’m not that trained in astrology to understand much about planetary returns, but I do understand with folks like GZ that the chickens do come home to roost.

        Chickens coming home to roost is a good way of explaining Saturn Returns.

        Saturn Returns occur between the ages of 28-30 and repeat every 28-30 years and are about taking responsibility for your past actions and George’s has been obvious because all of his past bad actions have been brought to public view even though his father and mother have used their connections to cover them up.

        I believe that not testifying was a huge blow to George’s ego because he truly believes he can convince anyone of anything–remember the cousin whom he molested stated that George can be charming and he even attempted to contact Angela Corey directly believing that he could convince her not to bring charges against him.

        • Xena says:


          Saturn Returns occur between the ages of 28-30 and repeat every 28-30 years and are about taking responsibility for your past actions and George’s has been obvious because all of his past bad actions have been brought to public view even though his father and mother have used their connections to cover them up.

          Thanks. I understand that Saturn returns are times to revisit life and make the right choices and repentances. But, not everyone does so, and they reap the whirlwind.

          I believe that not testifying was a huge blow to George’s ego because he truly believes he can convince anyone of anything–remember the cousin whom he molested stated that George can be charming and he even attempted to contact Angela Corey directly believing that he could convince her not to bring charges against him.

          I agree. People who are deceptive always believe they are convincing. Zimmerman is one who thinks he can convince God Almighty that George is really God.

          • roderick2012 says:

            “Zimmerman is one who thinks he can convince God Almighty that George is really God.”


    • Ametia says:

      I missed the questioning of Robert Zimmerman. What did he say?

  41. What does 2 black burglars breaking into a home at Retreat Circle have anything to do with Trayvon Martin?

    • Selah says:

      That we black people commit crimes? Umm wow. All I can say is wow. Who does this girl think she is?

    • roderick2012 says:

      Come on SG2, you know all us darkies look alike and we’re all guilty by association.

      Just like whenever three or more darkies garther we must be plotting against whitey just like when Sanford’s city manager allowedTracy and Sybrina to listen to that 911 call without getting permission from massa first.

      • GrannyStandingforTruth says:

        SG2@, well, you know, all black males love to burglarize and are black brutes.

        Granny—> giving institutionalized racism, gz’s lying witnesses, and stereotypes major eye rollage and neck twist. The more I listen to the white witnesses for defense who lived in that apartment complex, the more I am beginning to believe that they did not want any black people living there.

  42. Next witness up

    Olivia Bertalan

  43. Florida Police urges public to “Raise Your Voice, Not Your Hands” as Zimmerman verdict nears

  44. Dennis Root says he doesn’t think there was any ill-will, spite or hatred in Zimmerman’s words when he said “these a– holes always get away.”

  45. Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone: Don West clashing with judge, who’s repeatedly overruled his objection to her inquiring of Zimmerman about whether he will testify.

  46. Judge Nelson ain’t playing with West today. Your.Objection.Is.Overruled.

    • Local 10 Zimmerman ‏@WPLGZimmerman: Judge Debra Nelson overruled West’s objection on her own questioning of the defendant saying the court had a right to know.

      • roderick2012 says:

        When in the fugg has a lawyer ever had the balls or right to object to anything a judge has asked a defendant.

        West was correct last night-he does need a break and Judge Nelson should toss his wrinkled old ass into jail for contempt of court for a few days and he can rest and recuperate.

      • roderick2012 says:

        “West is pushing it. He’s doing b/c she’s a female judge and he wants to disrespect her.”

        Yet they forget that an all-female jury will determine their clients fate and I dare say that every single one of them have been disrespected by jerks like O’Mara and West at some point in their lives.

      • Ametia says:

        How is this MOFO going to object to the frickin’ judge?

  47. Court is back in session.

  48. David Otunga: Prosecutor using my argument

    David Otunga Prosecutor using my argument

  49. Court is in recess until 1:45pm

  50. O’Mara, please stop! Let John Guy straddle the doll.

  51. CarolMaeWY says:

    Who is testifying now? Thanks.

  52. Dennis Root is stumbling and spewing blather. GTFOOH!

  53. Dennis Root: Trayvon “absolutely” could have been getting up and backing away from Zimmerman when he was shot.

    • rachel says:

      I don’t predict a bright future as an “expert witness for the defense” for this guy.

    • roderick2012 says:

      But he couldn’t do it because George was restraining Trayvon by holding onto the right waistband of Trayvon’s undershirt with his left hand.

  54. Dennis Root: “I think I’m getting really lost.”
    Werk it, John Guy!

  55. CarolMaeWY says:

    Hello everyone. M

  56. Y’all see John Guy straddling?

    Bow chicka bow wow!

  57. Root didn’t tweet an announcement about this trial?

    Dennis Root

  58. Xena says:

    Root just started his company this year. This is the first time he has testified as an expert witness before a jury.

    • Liza says:

      This “expert” is just more proof that they have no defense. Just a cock-and-bull story pieced together from the multiple stories made up by a low-life loser who killed a kid for no reason. Now they are trying to shore it up with the opinions of instant experts and cartoon producers.

      F*ck them.

  59. Fin Gomez: Prosecutor John Guys hits root on advertising/publicity about consulting/testifying for Zimmerman defense.

  60. I love John Guy! He’s talking dirty again! ;)

  61. Ametia says:

    To the RACIST Trolls, your’e not coming here ever with charges of racism. EVER. Go on to your KKK rallies and rail against the dying of White Supremacy.

    • Xena says:

      @Ametia. Had a discussion with a sovereign citizen once. His position is that the “White man” is superior to other races because they went to other countries and took over leadership. My response? That was accomplished by violence.

      Bigoted racists are angry now because when they use violence on U.S. citizens of color, they are subject to the laws of the State and/or nation. Remember, they never wanted Zimmerman brought to trial.

    • rikyrah says:

      keep on telling these clowns the truth, Ametia

  62. Dennis Root: “Some people are just naturally born athletes.”


    Translation: Black people are naturally born athletes with brute strength.

  63. roderick2012 says:

    So this clown is admitting that Fatback aka softie would have stayed in the truck and waited on the police if he had not been armed because he knew if he started something he couldn’t finish he always had his trusty Kel Tec loaded with hollow points?


    • Ametia says:

      Right. It was because Zimmerman was armed with that 9mm that he got out of the truck. He was ready to hunt and kill that night and he did

  64. Xena says:

    On rebuttal, the State needs to bring in the former co-worker/bouncer who witnessed GZ pick up a woman and throw her, resulting in GZ’s termination.

  65. WTF is this guy doing? Is he trying to advise the jury about evidence? Get this mofo off the stage!

    • Ametia says:

      Of course, this dog and ponys show is to tell the jury that Trayvon deserved to get shot and killed, because he was a dangerous, black man. Root he looked like he was 20 years old? WTF? Zimmerman was lacking in physical ability in comparison to Mr. Martin.


  66. Xena says:

    Root is acting as a witness analyst. He’s a one-man jury. The State is entering objections.

  67. Will someone get this grifter off the stage?

  68. Ametia says:

    Shout out to Rachel Jeantel:


  69. Xena says:

    Good morning everyone. I’m not yet fully awake (making coffee) but alert enough to wonder what the hell can Root testify that proves GZ killed Trayvon in self-defense? The defense is reaching for straws.

    • Ametia says:

      Good Morning, Xena. Root can’t prove a DAMN thing. He’s just another cracka trying to justify Zimmerman’s murdering an unarmed black boy, named Trayvon Martin.

    • Ametia says:

      They’re trying to sidestep the jury. They have no respect for the legal process, no respect for the judge, jury, or laws. The defense team of Laurel & Hardy don’t believe the jury will decide in Zimmerman’s behalf, and that is why they’re bringing in all these low life experts.

      • Xena says:

        The defense was and is not prepared to put on a defense. They will get people off the street to testify of the perception of clothes people wear — anything — because they have nothing.

    • Xena says:

      The defense should still be held accountable. They can’t decide on July 4th that they’re going to present a defense and then subpoena folks who have sat in the courtroom while the State was presenting their case in chief.

  70. Ametia says:

    So the defense is furthering their agenda of making the case for Zimmerman’s murdering Tayvon LEGAL. Lord help the Martin family receive justice for their son.

  71. OK, why is this guy here? Zimmerman was NOT a cop!

  72. Tony Pipitone: Judge tells Juror 5 (E6) she can indicate if she needs to leave courtroom, and judge will recess.

  73. Next witness up

    Dennis Root

  74. Judge Nelson rules Trayvon text messages and photos from his phone will NOT come in.

  75. Judge Nelson rules computer animation will NOT be submitted as evidence but can be used as a demonstration during closing arguments.

    • roderick2012 says:

      So Judge Nelson splits the baby again.

      Allowing the defense to play their BS during closing arguments is worse because the State can’t rebutt any of it.

      I have had it with Judge Nelson and I believe that she’s been either threatened or paid.

      Judge Nelson, Angela Corey, the rest of the prosecution team should join the Hall of Shame along with Singleton and Serino.

    • Ametia says:

      WTF? This ruling makes NO SENSE. The jury will still be exposed to this bullshit circus act.

  76. rikyrah says:

    I’m gonna ask again…
    W-T-F is this bullshyt about Trayvon wanting to purchase a gun.

    • Just bullshit.

    • roderick2012 says:

      W-T-F is this bullshyt about Trayvon wanting to purchase a gun.

      True especially since if Trayvon had wanted to get a gun he could have easily done so since there are tons of illegal guns floating around in this country.

      Honestly it’s a shame that Trayvon didn’t have one so he could have put Piglet out of his wanna-be cop misery.

    • Ametia says:

      Exactly. So what if he did. I suppose it was perfectly ok for these white male mass murderers Jared Loughner, James Holmes, Wade Michael Page o not only want to purchase guns but possessed guns and commited MASS MURDERS.

  77. Judge Nelson looking over paperwork

  78. Court is in session

  79. roderick2012 says:

    Sybrina is a woman of great faith, but she looks weary in that picture.

    People of lesser faith would have committed suicide or gone crazy before now.

    She has withstood assaults on her character, her parenting skills, her love for Trayvon, her appearance and just about anything else you can mention just because she’s a black mother who had the nerve to ask for justice for her black son.

    Maybe Rev Wright was correct (gd America).

    May God continue to bless Sybrina and keep her along with Tracy.

  80. Don West & Mark O’Mara have disrespected Judge Nelson since day 1. They’re doing it for no other reason than she’s a woman. After the Judge recessed for the night, Don West continued to scream at her. I hope she smacks them down at 8:00am.

    Judge Nelson leaves courtroom

  81. Hey 3CP!

    Court lasted until 10:00pm. Judge Nelson had enough of Don West’s foolishness. West lost his mind last night and had a meltdown. Watch it below. I hope she finds him in contempt.

    • Ametia says:

      Don Wet’s a total DISGRACE to the justice system. The only thing missing from these citizens of law enforcement is the white hoods & robes.

    • Liza says:

      Let’s see if I understand this. I could walk home from the store with my purchases. Unknown to me, someone is stalking me. This person then confronts me, starts a fight, and shoots me through my heart. Yet, when my killer is brought to trial, the pictures and messages in my cellphone are “exculpatory and probative” evidence that the defendant was justified in doing what he did.

      • You wrapped it up nicely. It’s the most f’d up ish you’ve ever seen in your life.

        In their world… black skin = no rights

      • Liza says:

        It is the most ludricous defense for taking the life of another human being that I have heard in a long, long time. West and O’Mara are ambulance chasers, totally unqualified and unprofessional. Where in the blazes did Zimmerman find them?

  82. Good morning, everyone! We’re almost there. Justice4Trayvon!

    Hoodies up!

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