Friday Open Thread | Memorable Teen Movies: The Breakfast Club

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The Breakfast Club is a 1985 American coming-of-age comedy-drama film written, produced, and directed by John Hughes and starring Emilio Estevez, Paul Gleason, Anthony Michael Hall, John Kapelos, Judd Nelson, Molly Ringwald and Ally Sheedy. The storyline follows five teenagers, each a member of a different high school clique, who spend a Saturday in detention together and come to realize that they are all more than their respective stereotypes, while facing a strict disciplinarian principal.

Critics consider it one of the greatest high school films of all time, as well as one of Hughes’ most memorable and recognizable works.[citation needed] The media referred to the film’s five main actors as members of a group called the “Brat Pack”.

The Breakfast Club’s title comes from the nickname invented by students and staff for morning detention at New Trier High School, the school attended by the son of one of John Hughes’ friends. Thus, those who were sent to detention before school starting time were designated members of “The Breakfast Club”.


The main theme of the film is the constant struggle of the American teenager to be understood, by adults and by themselves. It explores the pressure put on teenagers to fit into their own realms of high school social constructs, as well as the lofty expectations of their parents, teachers, and other authority figures. On the surface, the students have little in common with each other. However, as the day rolls on, they eventually bond over a common disdain for the aforementioned issues of peer pressure and parental expectations.[13][14] The main adult character, Mr. Vernon, is not portrayed in a positive light. He consistently talks down to the students and flaunts his authority throughout the film. Bender is the only one who stands up to Vernon.[13]

Stereotyping is another theme. Once the obvious stereotypes are broken down, the characters “empathize with each other’s struggles, dismiss some of the inaccuracies of their first impressions, and discover that they are more similar than different.”[15]

The film’s poster, featuring the five characters huddled together, was photographed by Annie Leibovitz toward the end of shooting. The shot of five actors gazing at the camera influenced the way teen films were marketed from that point on.[16] The poster refers to the five “types” of the story using slightly different terms than those used in the film, and in a different sequence, stating “They were five total strangers with nothing in common, meeting for the first time. A brain, a beauty, a jock, a rebel and a recluse.”

The Breakfast Club Soundtrack

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    The Economy Is Better — Why Don’t Voters Believe It?

    Exploring the Iowa paradox.


    At 9:30 a.m. on a recent Wednesday, Cyndi Diercks stood poolside at the Paddling Pooch in Bettendorf, Iowa, watching Ollie, her 12-year-old Weimaraner, swim laps. Between tosses of a fluorescent-green floating chew toy, Diercks, the 54-year-old owner of a local landscaping business and a leader of a local tea party group, enumerated all that was wrong with the U.S. economy.

    The Federal Reserve is devaluing the dollar, Diercks said. Too many Americans are on food stamps or other benefits. Government regulation is stifling small businesses (she bore particular animus toward the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, the federal workplace safety regulator). Inflation is too high. Taxes are too high. Government spending is too high. Statistics showing improvement in the economy are misleading if not outright lies.

    “We don’t know where they’re coming out with those numbers,” Diercks said. “The unemployment rate isn’t down. No one wants to talk about the truth, and I hate it.”

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    Friday, November 13, 2015
    Cruz Missile Attack, Con’t
    Posted by Zandar
    Over in the GOP Clown Car death match arena, Ted Cruz is going after fellow GOP senator Marco Rubio over immigration and it’s going to get ugly, fast.

    Mr. Cruz was asked Wednesday night by a reporter in Kingston N.H., if there was still a distinction between his position on immigration and Mr. Rubio’s.
    “It is not complicated,” Mr. Cruz said, then paused before adding, “that on the seminal fight over amnesty in Congress, the Gang of Eight bill that was the brainchild of Chuck Schumer and Barack Obama, that would have granted amnesty to 12 million people here illegally, that I stood with the American people and led the fight to defeat it in the United States Congress.”
    Mr. Cruz said: “In my view, if Republicans nominate for president a candidate who supports amnesty, we will have given up one of the major distinctions with Hillary Clinton and we will lose the general election. That is a path to losing.”

  7. rikyrah says:

    Less than three months before the kickoff Iowa caucuses, there is growing anxiety bordering on panic among Republican elites about the dominance and durability of Donald Trump and Ben Carson and widespread bewilderment over how to defeat them.

    Party leaders and donors fear that nominating either man would have negative ramifications for the GOP ticket up and down the ballot, virtually ensuring a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency and increasing the odds that the Senate falls into Democratic hands.

    The party establishment is paralyzed. Big money is still on the sidelines. No consensus alternative to the outsiders has emerged from the pack of governors and senators running, and there is disagreement about how to prosecute the case against them. Recent focus groups of Trump supporters in Iowa and New Hampshire commissioned by rival campaigns revealed no silver bullet.

    In normal times, the way forward would be obvious. The wannabes would launch concerted campaigns, including television attack ads, against the ­front-runners. But even if the other candidates had a sense of what might work this year, it is unclear whether it would ultimately accrue to their benefit. Trump’s counterpunches have been withering, while Carson’s appeal to the base is spiritual, not merely political. If someone was able to do significant damage to them, there’s no telling to whom their supporters would turn, if anyone.

  8. rikyrah says:

    Morning Plum: Marco Rubio’s clever immigration straddle

    By Greg Sargent November 11
    Last night’s GOP debate laid bare with unusual clarity the deep and nasty divide within the party over immigration. That divide has a policy and political component: The first is over what to do about the 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country — should they go, or should they stay, and if so, on what terms? The second is over a related dispute over whether Republicans have to make genuine efforts to appear more welcoming and inclusive and broaden the party’s demographic appeal to win the White House.

    At the debate, Donald Trump doubled down on his calls to deport the 11 million, aligning himself with one side of this argument. But John Kasich and Jeb Bush forcefully and unequivocally denounced Trump’s stance as policy fantasy and political suicide, aligning themselves clearly with the other side.

    As many news accounts have observed, Rubio last night did not get drawn into this debate. But on ABC News this morning, George Stephanopoulos tried to pin Rubio’s position down — and the Florida Senator responded by straddling that seething divide. Rubio declined to directly denounce Trump’s call for mass deportations:

  9. rikyrah says:

    Republicans still can’t explain why their economic ideas keep failing

    By Paul Waldman November 11
    Watching last night’s debate, I experienced a moment of breathless anticipation when one of the moderators, Gerard Baker of the Wall Street Journal, asked Carly Fiorina a version of what I think is the single most important economic question the Republican presidential candidates should have to answer. Let’s look at what Baker asked, and then we’ll look at how I’d put it, and what the candidates did and didn’t say:

    “Now, in seven years under President Obama, the U.S. has added an average of 107,000 jobs a month. Under President Clinton, the economy added about 240,000 jobs a month. Under George W. Bush, it was only 13,000 a month. If you win the nomination, you’ll probably be facing a Democrat named Clinton. How are you going to respond to the claim that Democratic presidents are better at creating jobs than Republicans?”

    As Brian Beutler noted afterward, that is exactly what Democrats will be saying next year. So how did Fiorina respond? She told the story of a woman she met who worries about her economic situation, then said, “Yes, problems have gotten much worse under Democrats,” which is the opposite of the truth, then went on to decry how government has been “crushing the engine of economic growth for a very long time.”

    In other words, she didn’t answer the question. But its essence is this. The Republican candidates all propose variations on the same theme, which is that the way to boost the economy is to cut taxes and scale back government regulation of business. In other words, here’s the plan all the Republicans agree on:

    1) Cut taxes, particularly for the wealthy.

    2) Scale back regulations on business.

    3) Watch the economy boom.

    The trouble is that we’ve been testing their theory for some time now, and it isn’t holding up well. That’s particularly true of its flip side, which is that tax increases and more regulation inevitably strangle the economy. Barack Obama has increased taxes and regulations, and job growth during his presidency has been solid. Unemployment is now at a mere five percent; you may remember that in 2012, Mitt Romney said his economic plan was so great that he could bring unemployment below six percent by the end of 2016. It’s true that wages have been stagnant, but that’s a condition that goes back decades. Even if you grant that the economy isn’t what we’d like it to be right now, the Republican theory predicts that the Obama policies would have produced not an incomplete recovery from the financial collapse, but outright economic disaster. Their theory also says that we should have had a huge economic boom during George W. Bush’s administration, and another economic disaster under Bill Clinton, who also raised taxes and increased regulations. None of those things happened.

  10. rikyrah says:

    Marco Rubio: Yes, Big Government CAN create jobs…for my voters

    By Greg Sargent November 11
    One of the most significant moments in last night’s GOP debate came when Ted Cruz took a subtle shot at Marco Rubio over the latter’s support for Big Sugar. Cruz attacked the idea of “corporate welfare,” citing “sugar subsidies” as an example of the problem, noting that sugar farmers supply 40 percent of the funds spent on lobbying in exchange for such government giveaways.

    As Steve Benen notes, this signals a coming attack Cruz will use on Rubio, since the latter has supported such subsidies in the past, and conservatives oppose these subsidies. Rubio had previously been targeted on this topic by a blistering Wall Street Journal editorial, which argued that the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s sugar subsidies program amounts to crony capitalism for big sugar producers that are allied with Rubio, and that Rubio’s support for it exposes “a tendency to hedge” on his “limited government conservatism” when he thinks it’s “politically beneficial.”

    On ABC News this morning, Rubio was pressed by George Stephanopoulos to respond to that editorial. His answer is notable:

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    Time for GOP panic? Establishment worried Carson or Trump might win
    By Philip Rucker and Robert Costa November 13 at 7:18 AM

    Less than three months before the kickoff Iowa caucuses, there is growing anxiety bordering on panic among Republican elites about the dominance and durability of Donald Trump and Ben Carson and widespread bewilderment over how to defeat them.

    Party leaders and donors fear that nominating either man would have negative ramifications for the GOP ticket up and down the ballot, virtually ensuring a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency and increasing the odds that the Senate falls into Democratic hands.

    The party establishment is paralyzed. Big money is still on the sidelines. No consensus alternative to the outsiders has emerged from the pack of governors and senators running, and there is disagreement about how to prosecute the case against them. Recent focus groups of Trump supporters in Iowa and New Hampshire commissioned by rival campaigns revealed no silver bullet.

  12. rikyrah says:

    Carson points to secret info to defend ridiculous claim
    11/13/15 08:00 AM
    By Steve Benen

    When politicians get caught making bogus claims, they have some choices on what to do next. The obvious solution is acknowledging the misstep and setting the record straight. Some, however, try lashing out fact-checkers and reporters who dare to question them. Others try changing the subject. Occasionally, we’ll even folks pretend they never said what they said.

    But the most amusing category belongs to politicians who defend bogus claims by citing secret evidence that only they have access to. As Rachel noted on the show last night, this comes up more often than it should.

    Rep. Duncan Hunter Jr. (R-Calif.), for example, claimed last year to have secret information about ISIS fighters getting caught entering the United States through Mexico, which never happened in reality. Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) claimed to have secret evidence that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, which is the exact opposite of the truth.

    And then there’s Ben Carson, who claimed this week that China has deployed troops to Syria, despite the fact that China has not deployed troops to Syria. Yesterday, Armstrong Williams, a top Carson campaign aide, defended the claim by pointing to – you guessed it – secret intelligence. Here was the exchange between Williams and MSNBC’s Tamron Hall:

    HALL: …Dr. Carson said that the Chinese were – are in Syria, which is not accurate.

    WILLIAMS: Well, Tamron, from your perspective and what most people know, maybe that is inaccurate, but from my intelligence and what Dr. Carson`s been told by people on the ground involved in that area of the world, it has been told to him many times over and over that the Chinese are there. But as far as our intelligence and the briefings that Dr. Carson`s been in, and I`ve certainly been in with him, he`s certainly been told that the Chinese are there.

    This isn’t even the first time Team Carson has tried to pull this stunt.

  13. rikyrah says:

    The economic question Republicans face, but can’t answer
    11/12/15 04:21 PM—UPDATED 11/12/15 05:23 PM
    By Steve Benen
    It was arguably the most important question asked in any Republican presidential debate so far this year. Gerard Baker, the editor in chief of the Wall Street Journal, presented Carly Fiorina with a line of inquiry she probably wasn’t expecting:
    “[I]n seven years under President Obama, the U.S. has added an average of 107,000 jobs a month. Under President Clinton, the economy added about 240,000 jobs a month. Under George W. Bush, it was only 13,000 a month. If you win the nomination, you’ll probably be facing a Democrat named Clinton. How are you going to respond to the claim that Democratic presidents are better at creating jobs than Republicans?”
    Fiorina, as is her wont, pretended that reality has no meaning and responded, “Yes, problems have gotten much worse under Democrats” – which contradicted the accurate question and made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

    But Baker’s observation presents Republicans with a challenge for which the party has no solution.

  14. rikyrah says:

    Damon Young, 11/9/15

    I wasn’t alive in the 50s and 60s and 70s when mass boycotts to protest racial injustice was more commonplace and more infused with our national cultural zeitgeist. I, like most of you, am very aware of the Montgomery Bus Boycott and other, less publicized, boycotts (like the New Orleans citizens boycott). But, again, reading about the spirit of a time in a textbook and hearing about it from your parents is a vastly different experience than living through it.

    I am, however, old enough to remember the late 80s and the 90s. As well as (obviously) the last 15 years. And I can honestly say that I have never seen a more meaningful and more effective American boycott than the one staged by the University of Missouri football players, whose actions forced President Tim Wolfe to resign.


    This is some major shit.

    Because, as absurd and problematic as the countless calls for the players to have their scholarships revoked were, it’s equally absurd that a couple dozens or so kids threatening to not play one football game had such an extensive and decisive impact — on the college, the state, the conference, and the nation — that it took less than 72 hours to get the university president out. It’s nothing short of amazing that those kids had the wherewithal and courage to put their scholarships and livelihoods (current and future) on the line to stand up for what they believed in, and it’s nothing short of terrifying that nothing anyone else on that campus would have done would have mattered the same way. No hunger strikes — and thank you, Jonathan Butler, for sparking this flame — no protests, no petitions signed by students and teachers, no votes of no confidence would have earned the same result as quickly.

  15. rikyrah says:

    Damon Young, 11/12/15

    Donald Trump is not a legitimate candidate for president.
    Sure, Donald Trump is running for president. And it seems like he will likely be the Republican nominee. And he might even be the president! This, unfortunately, is not a far-fetched reality. But even if President Trump becomes a reality, Donald Trump has never been and will never be a legitimate candidate for president. Because to be a legitimate candidate for president, you have to be a legitimate candidate for president, and Donald Trump is not.


    Which is what Donald Trump running for president is. A farce. And by reading her book while this farce of a candidate was speaking about why he should be president, Johari Osayi Idusuyi treated him how she’d presumably treat an onion or a mosquito or my spleen if it were on stage attempting to convince people to vote for it. Which, ultimately, is how everyone should be treating Donald Trump. Like a spleen running for president.
    America, though, is usually slow on the take for things Black people are doing first — like the Wobble and adding actual seasoning to meals — and this is a prime example of this phenomenon, which is why Johari Osayi Idusuyi is the Blackest person who ever lived this week.
    Also, she’s a Black woman reading a book in a public space. And you can’t get much Blacker than that.

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    So many questions from this picture, discovered during a recent tour of Ben Carson’s home, including…
    1. Who painted this? Do you think the people at the portrait store laughed when Ben Carson walked in and asked if someone could paint him and Black Klingon Jesus hanging out in a YMCA sauna, or do the people at the portrait store get so many requests like this that they have an artist on retainer who specializes in Black Klingon Jesus in the YMCA sauna paintings?
    2. Why is Jesus a Klingon? Don’t we all know that Ben Carson kinda doesn’t believe in science? Or science fiction. Or history. Shouldn’t this Black Klingon Jesus be, I don’t know, Black Morgan Freeman Jesus, since Ben Carson likely believes the Earth is 3000 years old and Morgan Freeman is approximately that age?
    Also, why does Black Klingon Jesus have hands the size of Shaq’s? Even with his fingers bent, Black Klingon Jesus’s hands are as big as Ben Carson’s face. When he’s done hanging out in the sauna with Ben Carson, Black Klingon Jesus should try out for the Sacramento Kings.
    3. Did Black Klingon Jesus order his super silky Yaki lacefront on the internet, or does he have a guy deliver it to him? Asking because I know Black Klingon Jesus definitely didn’t cop that in the store. The grade is too fine; the sheen is too shiny. That is some special order shit. (My guess? He had it delivered. This is Jesus after all. My Jesus aint on Ebay.)

    • rikyrah says:

      The Brotha that they put as Interim President of UMissouri?

      B.A. and J.D.

      Like I said…….

      show me ANYONE who is the President of a University with ONLY a B.A….

      And, I’ll show you a White Male.

      Hell, even a White Female has to have more credentials.

    • eliihass says:

      I liked what he said about how he’s sure his color had a lot to do with him being given this job…
      He spoke some uncomfortable truths that left many folks twitching in their seats…

      • Ametia says:

        Exactly, and his color serves two-fold. He’s black, but yet light enough to appease SOME of those folks ALSO TOO!

        • eliihass says:

          He’s not joking..
          He was Deputy Chancellor for 18 years…Come on, you mean they by-passed this brother for 18 years as they promoted over him and recruited a guy with a B.A ..

          Michael A. Middleton
          Deputy Chancellor Emeritus and Professor Emeritus of Law

          BA, University of Missouri, ’68
          JD, University of Missouri, ’71

          Professor Middleton joined the law faculty in 1985 after an illustrious career with the federal government in Washington. He was a trial attorney in the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice and in 1977 was appointed Assistant Deputy Director of the Office for Civil Rights at the Department of H.E.W.

          After serving as Director of the Office of Systemic Programs for the EEOC and as Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights at the Department of Education, he was appointed Associate General Counsel of the EEOC’s trial division. He returned to his alma mater from St. Louis, where he was director of the St. Louis district office of the EEOC.

          Beginning in 1997 he served as the Interim Vice Provost for Minority Affairs and Faculty Development for the University of Missouri. In 1998 he accepted the position of Deputy Chancellor.

        • eliihass says:

          Extremely sad but true what you wrote, Ametia…

  18. rikyrah says:

    Colorado to vote on single-payer state health-care system
    Proposal would make Colorado first state to provide health care

    By David Olinger
    The Denver Post

    Colorado voters will decide next year whether this state should be the first to pay for comprehensive health care for residents.

    Proponents of a single-payer state system gathered enough signatures to put ColoradoCare on the ballot, the secretary of state’s office announced Monday.

    They needed 98,492 valid signatures to put a state-governed health care system to a vote. After reviewing a 5 percent sample of the 158,831 signatures submitted, the secretary of state projected that the valid total would be 110 percent of the number required — and certified that Initiative 20, the “State Health Care System,” will be on the 2016 ballot.

  19. rikyrah says:

    The first person who got stiffed had an excuse. But, if the man has a reputation…why do business with him? That’s on you for getting into business with a no-paying deadbeat cheat.


    How did Trump get so rich? By refusing to pay in full: ‘I fight like hell to pay as little as possible’
    Reuters REUTERS
    13 NOV 2015 AT 07:58 ET

    Donald Trump has a message for anyone who agrees to do a job for him: If I don’t like your work or I think you’re trying to rip me off, don’t expect to be paid in full.

    The billionaire front-runner to be the Republican candidate in the U.S. presidential race says he sometimes refuses to pay bills from contractors he has hired and then forces them to negotiate the final figure down.

    “I’ve had many people that when they work for me they get very rich,” Trump said in an interview with Reuters, but, “sometimes I renegotiate.” Adding: “I’ll do that with probably 10 or 15 percent of contractors.”

    The strategy has left some small business owners who have done jobs for him over three decades of real estate deals saying they have felt cheated and don’t want to ever work for him again. In a number of cases they have also faced big legal bills from subsequent court action.

    Reuters reviewed more than 50 court cases and liens from contractors related to Trump projects in New York, Atlantic City, Miami and West Palm Beach, and interviewed dozens of people who have done construction jobs or legal work for him. The majority said they were paid in full and happy to work for him but at least a dozen said they had been left out of pocket or had watched as other contractors were short-changed.

  20. rikyrah says:

    they are a ‘leaderless movement’.
    they don’t believe in ‘organizing’, because, you know…respectability politics..

    so, not being snarky….

    what the phuck do you need money for?

    I was listening to Rev. Al’s radio show the other day, and he was having a discussion with a guy about how some young folks are talking ‘ when are you going to pass the baton, Rev. Al? And Rev. Al’s response was, I’ll pass the baton to the young people that I’ve been grooming in my organization. Not going to pass the baton to someone young, just cause they’re young. And, definitely not going to pass the baton to anyone who doesn’t believe in the things that I do, and in the apparatus that I built to get those things accomplished.’

    I’ll ask again……

    they don’t believe in structure…

    so, what.da.phuq do you need money for?


    Major donors consider funding Black Lives Matter

    Activists for the protest movement are meeting in secret with liberal funder club.
    11/13/15 05:11 AM EST

    Some of the biggest donors on the left plan to meet behind closed doors next week in Washington with leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement and their allies to discuss funding the burgeoning protest movement, POLITICO has learned.

    The meetings are taking place at the annual winter gathering of the Democracy Alliance major liberal donor club, which runs from Tuesday evening through Saturday morning and is expected to draw Democratic financial heavyweights, including Tom Steyer and Paul Egerman.

    The DA, as the club is known in Democratic circles, is recommending its donors step up check writing to a handful of endorsed groups that have supported the Black Lives Matter movement. And the club and some of its members also are considering ways to funnel support directly to scrappier local groups that have utilized confrontational tactics to inject their grievances into the political debate.

    It’s a potential partnership that could elevate the Black Lives Matter movement and heighten its impact. But it’s also fraught with tension on both sides, sources tell POLITICO.

    The various outfits that comprise the diffuse Black Lives Matter movement prize their independence. Some make a point of not asking for donations. They bristle at any suggestion that they’re susceptible to being co-opted by a deep-pocketed national group ― let alone one with such close ties to the Democratic Party establishment like the Democracy Alliance.

    • eliihass says:

      Willard and Ms Ann are so deluded and so desperate…they’re like the loser neighbors who are a real nuisance and who long ago burnt their bridges with everyone in the neighborhood by doing some really off-putting stuff – and while snooping on you yet again, get wind of a cool dinner party you’re planning, and scheme and scheme to get invited –

      They loiter about your yard, drop by the house under every pretext, dropping hints the entire week – and then finally show up uninvited on the night of all dressed up and demanding to be let in and refusing to leave..

  21. rikyrah says:

    I told you that Willard was lying in the cuff…..


    Jeff Gauvin @JeffersonObama
    Romney privately discussing a late entry is possible

  22. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone :)

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