Tuesday Open Thread | Native American Week

richard-pratt-carlisle-indian-schoolUS Army Pledges to Bear Full Cost of Returning Carlisle Remains

Beneath fields in Flanders, Normandy, and Okinawa, young American men and women lie in somber honor beneath row on row of white crosses. There to rest until a certain trumpet sounds.

In a clearing closer and less honored, on the grounds of what is now the U.S. Army War College in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, lie nearly 200 children; gone, but never forgotten; casualties of a federal policy to “kill the Indian in him, and save the man.” A leading architect of that policy, former cavalry officer Richard Henry Pratt, founded the Carlisle Indian Industrial School on these grounds in 1879 on a model of military training.

Bringing home the Carlisle children’s remains was the subject of a potentially explosive meeting on Tuesday between the Rosebud Sioux Tribal Council, representatives from several northern plains tribes, representatives of the Department of Defense, and the South Dakota congressional delegation at the Rosebud Casino. At least a few tribal councilmen, veterans of dozens of meetings with the federal bureaucracy, came prepared for a fight. Their’ frustrations were strongly expressed throughout the meeting.

After many months researching the issue, Tribal Preservation Officer Russell Eagle Bear’s office believes at least 11 of the children buried in the Pennsylvania cemetery are Sicangu Lakota. Before the meeting, Eagle Bear said his chief concern was that all the tribes with children buried at Carlisle would be lumped together, leaving the tribes to compete over who has priority. He said his tribe had done its homework, and had a plan ready to go.

Honored at the council table were members of Tokala Inajinyo, Suicide Prevention Peer Mentors and the Defending Childhood Initiative, Sicangu Youth Council. After a trip to the White House last year that included a return stop at the Carlisle Cemetery, these middle and high school students, deeply troubled by the experience, worked tirelessly to bring their ancestors home by collecting more than 1,800 signatures in a petition to their tribal council.

Sharon White Hawk, Sicangu Lakota, spoke with deep appreciation of the youths’ efforts. “This movement that our Sicangu children have started is a prayer from our ancestors… boarding school has an intergenerational effect, and we are still healing from it. Our future was taken away from us.”

Justin Buller, Associate Deputy General Counsel, Dept. of the Army, General Counsel’s Office, and a spokesman for Patrick Hallinan, Executive Director, Army National Military Cemeteries, issued an apology for all the pain and suffering caused by the failed forced extermination experiment. He also said “The Army is intent on paying to make sure your children are returned to the people they came from.” Buller said, “We are not asking for anything from you. We are only wanting to make sure we are honoring your request to return your children to you.” Hallinan’s spokesman further assured that “we will move forward in a process that works for each individual tribe.”

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70 Responses to Tuesday Open Thread | Native American Week

  1. eliihass says:

    Does any of my fam here belief that gawd-awful Nevada party chair woman who is obviously shucking for Hillary…

    And then with a straight face they have the nerve to talk about ‘democracy’…and ‘party unity’…

    ‘Party unity’ my you know what…


    • I don’t believe her ass at all. They want to cheat their way to the nomination and then want Bernie supporters to help elect her to the WH. Hell to the NO!

      • eliihass says:

        Tomorrow they’ll tell us Alison Lundergan Grimes loves President Obama and wants to protect the President’s legacy…

        They keep peeing on folks and keep telling them it’s raining – and even some folks who know it’s pee – can smell, it and can see it – are falling right in line…

    • Ametia says:

      Yesterday’s primary was truly something straight out of the Twilight ZONE.

      The DNC-Democratic Party needs a good ASS WHIPPING.

  2. Liza, Eliihass it’s on & poppin

    Judicial Watch Announces the Schedule for Deposition Testimony in Clinton Email Lawsuit

    (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that it has scheduled the depositions of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s top aides Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin, as well as top State Department official Patrick Kennedy, and former State IT employee Bryan Pagliano regarding the creation and operation of Clinton’s non-government email system. The first witness, Lewis A. Lukens, will be deposed on Wednesday, May 18.

    U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan granted “discovery” to Judicial Watch into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s email system. The court noted that “based on information learned during discovery, the deposition of Mrs. Clinton may be necessary.” The discovery arises in a Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit that seeks records about the controversial employment status of Huma Abedin, former Deputy Chief of Staff to Clinton. The lawsuit, which seeks records regarding the authorization for Abedin to engage in outside employment while employed by the Department of State, was reopened because of revelations about the clintonemail.com system (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:13-cv-01363)).

    The Clinton email witnesses are scheduled to be deposed by Judicial Watch attorneys for as long as seven hours:

    May 18 – Lewis A. Lukens, deputy assistant secretary of state and executive director of the State Department’s Executive Secretariat from 2008 to 2011, who emailed with Patrick Kennedy and Cheryl Mills about setting up a computer for Clinton to check her clintonemail.com email account.

    May 27 – Cheryl D. Mills, Clinton’s chief of staff throughout her four years as secretary of state.

    June 3 – Stephen D. Mull, executive secretary of the State Department from June 2009 to October 2012, who suggested that Clinton be issued a State Department BlackBerry, which would protect her identity and would also be subject to FOIA requests.

    June 6 – Bryan Pagliano, State Department Schedule C employee who has been reported to have serviced and maintained the server that hosted the “clintonemail.com” system during Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state.

    June 8 – 30(b)(6) deposition(s) of the State Department regarding the processing of FOIA requests, including Judicial Watch’s FOIA request, for emails of Clinton and Abedin both during Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state and after.

    June 28 – Huma Abedin, Clinton’s deputy chief of staff and a senior advisor to Clinton throughout her four years as secretary of state and also had an email account on clintonemail.com.

    June 29 – Patrick F. Kennedy, undersecretary for management since 2007 and the secretary of state’s principal advisor on management issues, including technology and information services.

    • Liza says:

      It’s going to be very interesting to see whether or not Hillary is going to be held accountable.

  3. Bernie Sanders win Oregon. Fuck it up, Bernie! Fuck it up! #OregonPrimary

  4. Folks spinning their ass off about Hillary win in Kentucky. Hillary should have blown Bernie out. Weak candidate. Not good!

    • Liza says:

      So far they both got 25 delegates.

    • eliihass says:

      So much for all of that she’s the best and most qualified crap…

      She’s barely making it against the old guy from Vermont – even with everything rigged in her favor, and the entire machine and establishment bought and paid for and working, lying, string-arming and shilling on her behalf..

      And so much for her former president husband being the ‘best campaigner’ as per the media and everyone else including that sell-out Jim Messina…

  5. Ametia says:



  6. Bernie Sanders has regained the lead in Kentucky. Fuck it up, Bernie! Fuck it up!


  7. Ametia says:

    It’s Gotten A Lot Harder To Act Like Whiteness Doesn’t Shape Our Politics
    by GENE DEMBY\

    May 13, 2016 • When we don’t acknowledge the role whiteness plays in how Americans vote, we’re essentially agreeing to misidentify some of the most important dynamics of this election cycle.

    Listen here: http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/

  8. I’m finished cooking for today. Red beans with ground beef, sausage, ham hocks, baked chicken, cornbread. That’s all I’m doing. SG2 is tired.

  9. Ametia says:

    Can’t wait to read your comments on this one 3 Chics family!

    Memo to Jonathan: the majority of BLACK folks in this country have for the most part NEVER underestimated so-called ‘WHITE POWER.’

    People are overestimating the power of Trump’s white supporters
    By Jonathan Capehart

    May 17 at 2:55 PM

    There is a strain of reporting on Donald Trump’s strengths and Hillary Clinton’s weaknesses that is becoming rather irritating. The presumptive Republican nominee’s popularity with white voters is seen as a red flag for his all-but-certain Democratic opponent. Meanwhile, her overwhelming support among African American and Latino voters is practically dismissed.

    Neither Clinton nor Trump will win without a coalition of voters. And right now, the former secretary of state running to succeed the nation’s first black president has the upper hand. But that advantage in theory will evaporate in reality if those constituencies don’t show up at the ballot box in November.


  10. rikyrah says:

    They are who we thought they were.


    Former Republican staffer names Wisconsin senators who were ‘giddy’ about voting law changes
    JESSIE OPOIEN | The Capital Times | jopoien@madison.com | @jessieopie
    May 16, 2016

    Attorneys challenging a series of Wisconsin voting laws implemented over the last five years argued Monday that lawmakers intended to discriminate against non-white voters by passing them.

    The trial began with a former Republican legislative staffer testifying that not only was that the intent, but some state senators were “giddy” to do so.

    Todd Allbaugh, who served as chief of staff to then-Sen. Dale Schultz, R-Richland Center, when the state’s voter ID law was passed in 2011, said there initially wasn’t much enthusiasm among Senate Republicans to pass the bill.

    Sen. Mary Lazich, R-New Berlin, argued on the bill’s behalf to her colleagues in a closed caucus meeting, Allbaugh testified.

    “She got up out of her chair and she hit her finger on the table and said, ‘Hey, we’ve got to think about what this could mean for the neighborhoods around Milwaukee and the college campuses around the state,'” Allbaugh said.

  11. Serena Williams Speaks Italian During Internazionali BNL d Italia Final Speech


  12. rikyrah says:

    Latest polls point to changing 2016 landscape
    05/17/16 10:46 AM
    By Steve Benen
    As the political world shifts its focus from primary speculation to running-mate speculation, general-election polling starts to take on the kind of salience it lacked in recent months. It’s still very early – Election Day is 174 days away – and the presidential race is very likely to take multiple turns, but it’s not too early to start establishing some baselines for future comparisons.

    Take the new NBC News/Survey Monkey results, for example.

    Attention is now rapidly moving to the hypothetical match-up between the leading candidates with an emphasis on a [Hillary] Clinton and [Donald] Trump contest. In this week’s poll, Americans are nearly split between their choice of Trump or Clinton; her margin over Trump narrows from 5 points last week to 3 points this week to 48 percent to 45 percent.

    This early data indicates a very close race right now – though that may change considerably before November.

    A closer look at the details reveals roughly what one might expect to see: men prefer Trump, women prefer Clinton. Those with less education back the Republican; those with more support the Democrat. Trump enjoys a lead among white voters, while Clinton enjoys even larger leads among every other racial and ethnic constituency.

  13. Lakota women look to heal severed maternal bonds with return of remains of ancestors buried in Carlisle

    Native Americans..Rita Means, a Rosebud Sioux Tribal Council member, and her granddaughter Shylee Brave, who was among the tribal youth who launched efforts to repatriate the remains of tribal children


    ROSEBUD RESERVATION, SOUTH DAKOTA – Historically, the women of the Lakota nation – as in almost all other Native American communities – played a critical role in the life of the family and tribe.

    Hunting and fighting were the purview of men, but the Lakota women were in charge of almost every other aspect of the tribal community, from farming, clothing making to raising the tipi and the children.

    The women also were in charge of preparing the bodies of the dead for burial ceremonies. The circle of life – from the legend of “otiwate” built around the sacredness of water that begins at childbirth – to the preparation of the body for the spirit world, was intimately connected to Lakota women.

    It is one of the reasons the Lakota women are finding a particularly maternal resonance with the efforts to repatriate the remains of almost 200 ancestors who were forcibly removed from their homes and families and sent away to boarding school at the Carlisle Indian School.

  14. Ametia says:


    Bring back an economy of the 1990s?!

    • Liza says:

      This latest thing about Bill being the proposed economy czar is reminiscent of Hillary being put in charge of universal healthcare after Bill took office in 1993. That, of course, was an epic failure. Hillary is now trying to go down that same path, offering a “Clinton” presidency, a partnership, and the whole concept deserves a huge backlash. “Vote for Hillary and get Bill too” is just wrong. If they plan on governing as one entity, they should run as one entity. They can’t do that, so they need to stop this nonsense.

  15. Ametia says:

    Just gonna drop this video right HERE:

  16. rikyrah says:

    May 16, 2016 4:00 PM
    Thanks to Republicans, We Now Have Two Dysfunctional Branches of Government
    By Nancy LeTourneau

    Today, the Supreme Court decided to not decide in the case of Zubik v. Burwell. Dahlia Lithwick gives us the scoop.

    Zubik v. Burwell, the religious challenge to the contraception mandate in the Affordable Care Act, could well have been this year’s Hobby Lobby—a fight to the death about whether religious employers could withhold certain contraception from employees based on the employers religious objections. But instead of ruling on the merits of the case, or breaking any new ground at all on the pitched battle between a woman’s right to seamless contraceptive coverage and the religious objections of her boss, the Supreme Court simply sent the case back to the lower courts Monday, with an unsigned order asking the courts of appeals to attempt to work it out, based on some extra briefing that parties did after the case was argued in March.

    Two things seem pretty clear: (1) the current court was 4/4 on this case, and (2) if Justice Scalia were still alive, this case would have gone the wrong way for those who support women’s reproductive freedom.

    But it’s also hard to miss the connection between the current deadlock in the Supreme Court and the ongoing dysfunction we’re witnessing in Congress. The former is a result of Republican’s refusal to even consider President Obama’s nominee to the high court and the latter is a due to their unwillingness to negotiate and compromise. That leaves us with only one functioning branch of the federal government – the executive. This is no way to run a democracy. And it’s also why elections matter.

  17. rikyrah says:



    Republican senator draws parallel between his campaign, 9/11
    05/16/16 11:20 AM
    By Steve Benen
    Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) is among this year’s most vulnerable incumbents, so it’s tempting to assume he’d be extra cautious when making his pitch to voters. If this Politico report is any indication, the Wisconsin Republican is going in the opposite direction.

    Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson on Saturday compared the 2016 election to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, saying he is “panicked” about this “consequential” year.

    Johnson was speaking this weekend at the Wisconsin Republican Party convention in Green Bay, and he made the comments as he was telling those who attended the function the story of Flight 93 – the airliner that ultimately crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, on Sept. 11, 2001. The crash occurred after the passengers attempted to overpower the hijackers rather than have the plane continue toward the hijackers’ intended target.

    According to the Associated Press’ account, Johnson told Republicans, “We’ve all heard Todd Beamer’s iconic words ‘Let’s roll,’” referring to United Flight 93. “How American is that? We have a job to do, let’s roll up our shirt sleeves. Let’s get it done.”

  18. rikyrah says:

    Obama sends pointed shots across GOP’s bow
    05/16/16 02:40 PM
    By Steve Benen
    When President Obama delivered the commencement address at Rutgers University in New Jersey over the weekend, he did not mention any Republicans’ names. In fact, over the course of his fairly long address, the word “Republican” did not come up at all.

    Obama did not, however, leave any doubts as to who he might have been referring to with some of his more pointed jabs.

    Midway through his remarks, for example, the president turned his attention to the climate crisis, and mercilessly mocked Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.): “A while back, you may have seen a United States senator trotted out a snowball during a floor speech in the middle of winter as ‘proof’ that the world was not warming.” After the audience laughed at the far-right senator’s antics, Obama added, “[I]t’s up to you to insist upon and shape an informed debate. Imagine if Benjamin Franklin had seen that senator with the snowball, what he would think. Imagine if your 5th grade science teacher had seen that. He’d get a D – and he’s a senator!”

    But his most forceful rhetoric was reserved for the GOP’s presumptive nominee.
    Although he didn’t mention Donald Trump by name, President Obama used his commencement address at Rutgers University on Sunday to make his most forceful case yet against the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee. […]

    Obama took on the premise of Trump’s “Make America Great Again” slogan…. He slammed Trump’s call for a border wall…. He criticized the presumptive GOP nominee’s Muslim ban…. He ripped into Trump’s command of the facts…. And he highlighted Trump’s lack of political experience in politics.

  19. rikyrah says:

    The enthusiastic embrace of ignorance
    05/17/16 08:40 AM
    By Steve Benen

    President Obama delivered a powerful commencement address at Rutgers University over the weekend, taking some time to celebrate knowledge and intellectual pursuits. “Facts, evidence, reason, logic, an understanding of science – these are good things,” the president said, implicitly reminding those who may have forgotten. “These are qualities you want in people making policy.”

    He added, “Class of 2016, let me be as clear as I can be. In politics, and in life, ignorance is not a virtue. It’s not cool to not know what you’re talking about. That’s not ‘keeping it real,’ or ‘telling it like it is.’ That’s not challenging ‘political correctness.’ That’s just not knowing what you’re talking about.”

    Donald Trump heard this and apparently took it personally. The presumptive Republican nominee responded last night with arguably the most important tweet of the 2016 presidential campaign to date:

    “ ‘In politics, and in life, ignorance is not a virtue.’ This is a primary reason that President Obama is the worst president in U.S. history!”

    I assumed someone would eventually tell the GOP candidate why this was unintentionally hilarious, prompting him to take it down, but as of this morning, Trump’s message remains online.

    In case it’s not blisteringly obvious, candidates for national office generally don’t argue publicly that ignorance is a virtue. But Donald Trump is a different kind of candidate, offering an enthusiastic, albeit unconventional, embrace of ignorance.

    Don’t vote for Trump despite his obliviousness, support him because of it. The Know-Nothing Party may have faded into obscurity 150 years ago, but it’s apparently making a comeback with a new standard bearer.

    There’s been a strain of anti-intellectualism in Republican politics for far too long, and it comes up far too often. House Speaker Paul Ryan last month dismissed the role of “experts” in policy debates; former President George W. Bush and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker have publicly mocked those who earn post-graduate degrees; Jeb Bush last year complained about Democrats using too many “big-syllable words.”

  20. rikyrah says:

    uh huh
    uh huh

    Oklahoma can no longer afford irrational Obamacare hatred
    05/16/16 12:30 PM—UPDATED 05/16/16 01:07 PM
    By Steve Benen

    In recent years, as the Affordable Care Act has taken root, there are a series of great anecdotes about Americans who thought they hated the reform law, right up until they really needed it. At that point, these consumers tended to effectively say, “Maybe blind hatred for Obamacare wasn’t such a good idea after all.”

    As it turns out, a similar situation has unfolded in many state capitols, where Republican policymakers are certain they want to reject every possible aspect of the ACA, until it dawns on them this posture ends up hurting their state for no reason. The Associated Press turned the spotlight on Oklahoma today:
    Despite bitter resistance in Oklahoma for years to President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul, Republican leaders in this conservative state are now confronting something that alarms them even more: a huge $1.3 billion hole in the budget that threatens to do widespread damage to the state’s health care system.

    So, in what would be the grandest about-face among rightward leaning states, Oklahoma is now moving toward a plan to expand its Medicaid program to bring in billions of federal dollars from President Obama’s new health care system.

  21. rikyrah says:

    Congressional Republicans balk at taking Zika threat seriously
    05/17/16 08:00 AM
    By Steve Benen
    It’s been three months since the White House, working in coordination with the CDC and public-health experts, first sent Congress a $1.9 emergency budget request to address the Zika virus threat. The Republican majority has spent every week since looking for an excuse to do nothing.

    The good news is, House GOP leaders unveiled their proposal yesterday to address the emergency. The bad news is, the Republican bill is practically a punch-line to a bad joke. The Hill reported:
    House Republicans on Monday introduced a bill to provide $622 million in additional funding to fight the Zika virus this year.

    The measure is fully paid for, in part by shifting over unspent money that was intended to fight Ebola, the House Appropriations Committee said. The House is likely to vote on the bill, which would provide a fraction of the $1.9 billion requested by the White House, this week.
    Keep in mind, Senate Republicans endorsed a $1.1 billion emergency package last week, which falls far short of what the administration and public-health experts believe is necessary. But the House GOP sees that bill as too generous, so Republicans in the lower chamber cut that total roughly in half.

  22. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone:)

  23. Alone Without a Tribe; Native Vet Traces His Roots at Carlisle Indian School

    Alone Without a Tribe; Native Vet Traces His Roots at Carlisle Indian School


    The U.S. Army War College recently honored a Native American veteran at the Jim Thorpe Sports Days, an annual athletic event for students at the nation’s elite war colleges on April 21-23.

    Robert O’Brien was the guest of honor. The 85-year-old O’Brien was recognized for his military service, his career achievements, and his lineage – his father graduated from the Carlisle Indian Industrial School.

    O’Brien explored the history of his father’s time at Carlisle while the Army, Air, Marine, National and Eisenhower War Colleges’ students competed against in various sports: running, cycling, soccer, and more.

    The Carlisle Indian Industrial School opened in 1879 at the Carlisle Barracks in central Pennsylvania. The school became the flagship campus for off-reservation, BIA-run boarding schools nationwide. More than 10,000 students attended Carlisle, until the Indian School closed in 1918. The Carlisle Barracks now belongs to the U.S. Army War College.

    Estimates vary as to how many students died at the Carlisle Indian School. Native scholar Preston McBride estimates that roughly 500 students died or fell ill and were sent home to die. Gravestones memorialize 186 buried in a tidy cemetery on the edge of the military base.

    The cemetery is now at the center of a repatriation controversy as the Northern Arapaho, Northern Cheyenne, and Rosebud Sioux tribes seek the return of children buried their. The National Native American Boarding School Healing Coalition launched an online petition calling for repatriation, and the Army has since expressed willingness to consult with the tribes.

    O’Brien went to the cemetery to pay his respects before the opening ceremony. He walked quietly between the graves looking for mention of his tribal affiliation, the Three Affiliated Tribes of Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara.

    Information about the cemetery appears on a plaque affixed to a large stone near the entrance to the cemetery. The plaque reads: “Buried here are the Indians who died while attending the Carlisle Indian School (1879-1918). The original Indian cemetery was located to the rear of the grandstand on Indian Field. In 1931, the graves were transferred to this site.”

  24. Carlisle School seeking to cleanse Native kids of their “savage nature”

    Carlisle School seeking to cleanse Native kids of their savage nature

    • Wait a minute….. White Europeans invaded a country, killing off the main food source, stealing their land and committing genocide and have the GALL to call the First Nation peoples…savages? Fuckouttahere Amerikkka!

  25. #Amerikkka you have done some wicked deeds!

    Carlisle Indian School Goal: Erase Native children of their names, language, dress, customs, religions & family ties.

    Carlisle_pupils-Indian students sent to the Carlisle Indian Industrial School in Pennsylvania died by the hundreds from infectious diseases.

  26. Good morning, everyone!

    • Ametia says:

      Good Morning, Everyone!

      Thank you for this week’s series on Native Americans, SG2.

      • yahtzeebutterfly says:

        Good Morning :)

        Our chipmunk friend, who comes to our porch chair for almonds when I am not in the garden to feed her, just came three feet into our house waiting for me because I had left the door open for five minutes. (Yes, we do have a cat… I will have to be more careful now and never leave the door open for even a second.)

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