Friday Open Thread | But, THEY SAID.. it was about the CRIMINALS

I know that I keep on posting articles about this topic, but I think people need to understand what is going on with ICE in this country.
And, because of what’s going on with ICE, I don’t want to hear anything positive, or how we should feel for Kelly – because he is the one who was in charge of Homeland Security, and these wretched, evil folks.

From San Francisco:

For Oakland family split by deportation, an emotional last day in U.S.
By Hamed Aleaziz
August 16, 2017
Updated: August 17, 2017 7:42am

Maria Mendoza-Sanchez spent her last day in the United States before deportation tending to matters both routine and strange.

She drove her 16-year-old daughter, Elizabeth, to the first day of her sophomore year in high school. She packed. She ate meals with loved ones. And she signed paperwork granting power of attorney over her family’s affairs to the other two daughters she planned to leave behind, 23-year-old Vianney and 21-year-old Melin.

At 8 p.m. Wednesday, the family — the mom, husband and son who were leaving, and the daughters who were staying — gathered for a last photo together in their Oakland home. Then they formed a circle in the living room, along with three of Mendoza-Sanchez’s nursing colleagues at Highland Hospital, to hold hands and pray.

“Lord God right now I lift this family up to you!” proclaimed one of the nurses. “Lord God put your hand of protection on these girls!”

When the circle broke, Maria gathered her daughters into her arms, and said, firmly, “You promise you be strong. You behave yourselves. You do the right thing. We will be together again! I promise you.”

Her husband stood a few feet away, wiping tears from his eyes, shaking his head at the scene as Vianney repeated, over and over, “It’ll be OK, it’ll be OK.”

Hours later, Mendoza-Sanchez and her husband, Eusebio Sanchez, caught a red-eye flight from San Francisco International Airport to their native Mexico, after federal immigration officials denied efforts by them and Sen. Dianne Feinstein to delay their deportation.

They brought along their 12-year-old son, Jesus, while leaving behind their three older daughters, who will take care of one another.

The circumstances of the case, which offer a window into the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown, fueled outrage from Feinstein, other local politicians and leaders at Highland Hospital. The couple lived in the U.S. for more than two decades, raised children who each have legal status, own their home in Oakland, do not have criminal records, and were granted earlier delays of deportation.

The family had pushed back the flight one day in hopes of winning a late reprieve from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, known as ICE. But the agency on Tuesday turned down their request for a stay of deportation.

An agency spokeswoman defended the deportation action last week, saying the family’s case had gone through a lengthy review in immigration courts and “neither of these individuals has a legal basis to remain in the U.S.”

When they came up with their immigration push…it was sold under the bullshyt banner of..




The United States was being overrun by illegal immigrant criminals.

I knew that was bullshyt. And, I have been proven right.
ICE is nothing more than a RACIST domestic terror organization.

I see these stories coming across the feeds of blogs that I follow. Almost every day now.
And, the story is the same….
People who have been in this country for decades. Who work. Who have families. Who have been productive members of this society.
And, they have something else in common-they are NON-WHITE.
I’ve said it before: I live in a city with a LARGE illegal Irish, and a LARGE illegal Eastern European population.
But, somehow, I never seem to be reading these kinds of stories with illegal IRISH /EASTERN EUROPEANS.

You have ICE staking out houses of worship, and other places where they know people congregate..
Yet, they don’t seem to know where ILLEGAL IRISH /EASTERN EUROPEANS worship, live and congregate?


You and I read stories like this and see barbarism.
Dolt45’s voters read this and cheer.
I have nothing in common with those people and stop telling me that I have to ‘understand’ them.

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107 Responses to Friday Open Thread | But, THEY SAID.. it was about the CRIMINALS

  1. rikyrah says:

    An Open Letter to #Trumpgretters: Go Bannon Yourselves
    Spandan Chakrabarti August 18, 2017

    Dear Trumpgretters:

    We appear to be entering a new fad in media attention in the wake of Donald Trump’s racist response to the white supremacist violence in Charlottesville: prominent Trump voters who are now publicly expressing their regret in voting for Donald Trump. That is, you. You are our media’s new shiny object. Congratulations.

    However, “I take it back” simply doesn’t cut it when your offense is not merely an error but a sin. Allow me to remind you what you have put our country through for the pleasure of your vicious, bloody experiment.

    You decided that for the position of President of the United States, you would pick a man who bombed his way into the political scene by challenging the legitimacy – indeed the very citizenship – of this country’s first black president. The fact that he aided and abetted the racist conspiracy theory of birtherism did not phase you. The very reason Donald Trump could become a political figure was his – and your party’s – willingness to support and feed the overt racists in America, and that did not give you a pause.

    You used your vote to elevate to power a man who blatantly stated that an American judge could not be objective because of his Mexican heritage. You did not recoil in horror when your candidate called immigrants rapists, thugs and drug dealers. You either thought it was a dandy idea, or you believed his hateful agenda could be tolerated in exchange for whatever “constructive” policy agenda you were hoping he’d deliver on.

    You accepted as your preferred choice for President a man who pretended not to know who David Duke even was in order to pander to his racist, Nazi base, before meekly rebuking Duke’s support. By then, you know as well as anyone, Trump’s dog whistle to white supremacists had become a siren.

    You offered your vote – your most sacred bond of support – to a man who invoked the imagery rape to describe trade deficits with Asian and Latin American countries. Let’s not pretend you couldn’t read the clear subtext: the white cultural fear non-white men as violent rapists who rape white women.

    You made certain that your vote was counted for a man who repeatedly delegitimized your fellow Americans in highly diverse states and cities with accusations of illegal voting. Once again, the subtext was not lost on anyone but the most intellectually corrupt: if people of color vote, that’s illegal.

  2. Check email ladies

  3. rikyrah says:

    This was painful to read. I can’t even imagine going through it.

    How Trump Ruined My Relationship With My White Mother
    Panama Jackson
    Today 9:30am


    On the Monday before Charlottesville erupted into chaos, my mother and aunt came to visit. As usual, my mom and I had small disagreements about her support for Trump, but I noticed something different about our discussions this time: She was advocating for him. It wasn’t about hating Clinton; she actually liked Trump and what he had to say.

    “He tells it like it is,” she said, echoing a common refrain from Trump supporters. On that day, I explained to my mother, in very plain language, why I felt he was dangerous, why Black Lives Matter existed (after she asked my opinion on BLM) and why I viewed the police, as an institution, as problematic. This happened while we were on the way to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum.


    At home, we watched the news, and there was a news story about an inflatable chicken that had flown near the White House. My mother felt that was supremely disrespectful to Trump and voiced her opinion to me. I let her know, in no uncertain terms, that I didn’t care about him being disrespected because he’d disrespected me, my community, and any other possible community he could think of in both word, deed and attempted policy. My mother became upset with me and loudly expressed that he was worthy of my respect as a human being and that he was the most disrespected president ever.

    I shot back with facts about the times he’d disrespected various communities, with quotes, and pointed out just how badly President Barack Obama was treated by publications and regular Joes while he was in office.


    But this is when our relationship hit the point from which I realized we’d never fully recover. When we were getting in the car to head to Rockville, Md., she asked why I found the T-shirt offensive. I told her that by her wearing that shirt, it showed that she didn’t care about my life or those of her grandchildren or daughter; after we argued, she refused to speak to me for hours, again.

    She wanted me to take her home. I offered to take her to the airport.

    She was leaving the next day, Saturday, which, as we all know now, is the day white supremacists staged their rally in Charlottesville. Amid discussion—she agreed that the white supremacists were appalling and that the police had done a horrible job—she still managed to find a way to support Trump by complaining that people were waiting for him to say something and then complained that he didn’t say enough; her point was that, basically, he couldn’t catch a break.


    I can’t sit and actively engage with a person—even if it is my mother, whose blood is running through my body—if she doesn’t care about me, my story or what I live through. If she can’t see past her own appreciation for a bigoted, dangerous man, who, because of the position people like her have placed him in, has the ability to do significant damage to my civil liberties, then I don’t know what place she can have, reasonably, in my life. It’s sad. It’s disappointing. It’s my mother.

    Blood is not thicker than freedom and it’s not thicker than safety. Sometimes blood is just that, blood. I know my mother loves me; I’m her son. But, honestly, I don’t think my mother cares about what that really means.

    Privilege is real. White privilege is real. It turns out, it can even trump blood. That reality is harsh. But it’s real.

    Welcome to my reality.

  4. rikyrah says:

    How ’Bout This, Tina Fey: Give Us (Black People) the Sheet Cake, and You Go Confront the White Women Who Voted for Trump
    Damon Young

    Today 5:42pm

    I’m going to keep this short, because it’s Friday evening and I have shit to do.*

    I generally like Tina Fey. She is one of my favorite people in comedy. And I did laugh at her sheet-cake bit. Even if the premise was all fucked up—more on that in a minute—the actual jokes (aside for the terrible, awful Thomas Jefferson joke) worked. And watching people eat cake like a hangry grizzly bear is always funny.

    Much has been written already about how Fey’s bit was ensconced in white privilege, including this deconstruction from Splinter’s Isha Aran:

    I’m sure Fey’s heart’s in the right place, but it just goes to prove once again that even liberals can fall into the trap of assigning the violence that white supremacists cause to the people trying to stand against it—the flip side of the very same rhetoric Donald Trump was spouting earlier this week.

    Ignoring Nazis isn’t taking the high road. Protesting and facing potential danger is taking the high road. Obviously, we cannot afford to sit at home. While I wholeheartedly believe “sheetcaking” is a great coping mechanism that can cure many a broken heart, and supporting Jewish and black-owned businesses is a great thing, the last time we let Nazis scream into the empty air, it ended up in a fucking genocide.

    • Liza says:

      I’ve never commented on his terrible complexion but I’ve come close. What do you suppose his skin care regimen is like? Good grief would it kill him to see a dermatologist?

      • roderick2012 says:

        I believe that Bannon is rotting from the inside out.

        I would hate to see what his liver looks like.

  5. Baby is here! ❤️❤️❤️

    • rikyrah says:


      Sending prayers for the baby. May the baby grow stronger everyday.

    • Liza says:

      So the little guy has arrived? Congratulations, SG2, to the whole family. I have all of you in my thoughts and prayers tonight.

      I have a friend here in Tucson who was a preemie nurse for over 30 years. I think that people who do that work are special people, my friend is so kind and compassionate (and highly skilled). I’m sure that your grand baby is in good hands.

      Rest tonight.

    • yahtzeebutterfly says:

      SG2, I know that your grandson is safely in good hands in NICU and will get stronger and stronger by the day.

      He, your daughter and you are in my prayers. May the Lord of Love, Healing, and Strength watch over you and your grandson.

  6. rikyrah says:

    I just can’t.
    Black children are executed for playing with toy guns..

    But, your grown azz decides to march with Nazis, and you wanna cry ‘poor me’?


  7. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    “This Ostrich Snuggles Orphaned Elephants To Make Them Feel Better After Losing Their Moms”

  8. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    l love this back-to-school video:

  9. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    “In 1965, the city of Charlottesville demolished a thriving black neighborhood
    The razing of Vinegar Hill displaced families and dissolved the community”*jatPSZMU5-VC9ag6daz9NQ.jpeg
    Excerpt (but who article is worth reading) :

    On a Saturday morning in 1965, movers came to the Johnson home. Kathy Johnson and her three-year-old sister listened at the breakfast table, as their mother, Elsie, gave the movers instructions. The family was heartbroken. They didn’t want to leave their modest, two-story clapboard home, which often smelled of Elsie’s famous dinner rolls. But the house was slated to be bulldozed by the city of Charlottesville, as were 139 other black families’ homes, 30 black-owned businesses, and a church in the Vinegar Hill neighborhood. This “urban renewal project” would be done in the name of “progress.”

    But as Mindy Thompson Fullilove, a research psychiatrist studying the effect of so-called urban renewal projects on black communities, would later ask, “Progress for whom?” It certainly wasn’t for residents of Charlottesville’s largest black neighborhood, or any of the other more than 800 black communities that had already been displaced by 1962.

    Stories differ on how Vinegar Hill got its name. Some suggest that it originated from the time when a vinegar keg fell off a horse cart, leaving behind a pungent odor. Former slaves began settling there after the Civil War, hopeful that home ownership would guarantee progress for them and their families. During Jim Crow years, the neighborhood burgeoned into a bustling community of black business owners serving black clients. It was, according to the documentary on the neighborhood, That World is Gone, a hub for Charlottesville’s black social life. There was a school, insurance agencies, restaurants, clothing and drug stores, a barber shop, a fish market, a tailor, and a popular jazz nightclub, among many other venues. One resident would later remark that the neighborhood wasn’t “terribly beautiful, but those were good sturdy businesses.”

  10. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    I imagine Steve Bannon will change back into his comfy clothes.

    From Newsweek:


    “…although Bannon won’t work in the White House any longer, his worldview and mindset have been adopted almost in toto by the one person whose opinion matters in this White House: Donald John Trump.

    “Bannon became a formal adviser to then-candidate Trump on August 17, 2016. But, his influence on Trump’s thinking far pre-dates that.”

  11. Ametia says:

    Don’t got there with that free speech bullshit.

    CAUSE = EFFECT. Say (CAUSE) whatever the fuck you want to say, and be ready to deal with the EFFECTS. You are 100% RESPONSIBLE for what you say.

    See how this works, MOFOs?

  12. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    “Counter protesters rally against potential KKK march in Durham, North Carolina”


    City officials and police in Durham, North Carolina, say they are facing about 400 protesters who have gathered against what could be a Ku Klux Klan rally later Friday.

    The move comes a week after a fatal clash in Charlottesville, Virginia, between white supremacists, neo-Nazis and counter protesters left the country shocked.

    Rumors circulated through the college town that the Klan would be holding a rally in downtown Durham Friday afternoon, Durham Director of Public Affairs Beverly Thompson said. She added that the city has issued no permits for a protest or counter protest.

  13. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    We can be the change by speaking out against hate and violence. We have the power of love on our side. Now is the time for action…not just words.

    We need to draw on our inner strength.

    We must not let the Neo-Nazis, White Supremacist and their sympathizers shut down our democracy, diversity, civil rights, and freedoms.

  14. Ametia says:

    Stop this #45 BASE BULLSHIT. It’s the GOP, the ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY, any & all who voted for this POS & continue to remain silent who are culpable.

    • yahtzeebutterfly says:

      Their silence translates into permission.

      “I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides.”
      ~Elie Wiesel

  15. Ametia says:


    DON’T FRET, KEITH, Bannon will go after #45. It ain’t over.

  16. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it IS a duck:

  17. Ametia says:
  18. Ametia says:

    Don’t be fooled by Bannon’s exit, #45 is a RACIT POS, up in our WH, posing as leader of the free world. WTF


    Bannon to #45: IT’S NOT UR-iNE
    #45 to Bannon: IT’S MINE

  19. Breaking News: Steve Bannon is OUT of the White House

  20. Ametia says:

    This TURD right here. This is who the racists put on FAUX NOISE to feign outrage over RACISTS?

    • yahtzeebutterfly says:

      Thank you, Ametia, for posting all of these videos as a warning to us of the dangerous times we live in. We must not see a repeat of history. We must NOT ALLOW it to ever recur.


      “I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides.
      ~Elie Wiesel

      “The opposite of love is not hate, it’s indifference. The opposite of beauty is not ugliness, it’s indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it’s indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, but indifference between life and death.”
      ~Elie Wiesel

      We know that every moment is a moment of grace, every hour an offering; not to share them would mean to betray them. Our lives no longer belong to us alone; they belong to all those who need us desperately.
      ~Elie Wiesel

    • yahtzeebutterfly says:

      We are living in scary and dangerous times. We all need to stand against and say no to the White Supremacists and Neo-Nazis who want to ruin our country, and we need to continue to insist that Trump condemns them in specific, plain language.

      Many God protect us and our country from these racist haters and “their program.”

  21. Ametia says:


  22. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    Strength for this day:

  23. Daughter had a reaction to one of the medications. It made her so sick, baby stopped moving for awhile so they took her off that medication and now he’s back moving again. She’s tired, didn’t sleep well but feeling better than she was last night.

    • yahtzeebutterfly says:

      Oh, I am so sorry to hear that, SG2. She must have been so worried for her baby. I glad that they took her off that medication and that she is feeling better. I hope she is able to get caught up on her rest today. Please give her a hug for me.

      Please know that both of you will continue to be in my thoughts and prayers.

    • Ametia says:

      Your daughter is in the right place, where she can get the right medications, rest, and care to ensure she and the baby will come through this. Rest assure that they have the protection and love of the ALMIGHTY.

    • Liza says:

      SG2, I am so sorry that happened to your daughter and her baby after going through all of that trauma yesterday. I’ll be praying for them. Sounds like the baby is a fighter, like his grandma. He’s going to be fine.

    • rikyrah says:


      They are going to get it right and take care of both of them. They are both in my prayers, and she’s going to hold onto that little one for as long as she can. Take it day by day.

  24. Ametia says:

    Enough already, about #45’s base.
    Fuck that nonsense. It’s up to these Pols in Repub & Dem parties to condemn this ugliness and remove this slime from our WHITE HOUSE

  25. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    Selma voting rights leading activist, Amelia Boynton Robinson, was born on this day, August 18, in 1911 in Savannah, Georgia.

    Video on Amelia Boynton Robinson:

    “Amelia Boynton Robinson: Marching in Selma”

    The Matriarch of the Voting Rights Movement: Amelia Boynton Robinson”

  26. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    Artist Simmie Lee Knox was born on this day, August 18, in 1935 in Aliceville, Alabama.

    From Wikipedia:

    Sammie Lee Knox…is an American painter who painted the official White House portrait of former United States President Bill Clinton and First Lady Hillary Clinton. He was the first black American artist to receive a presidential portrait commission.–history-facts-african-americans.jpg

    “W.E. A.L.L. B.E. TV: Faces Tell The Story…A Conversation With Renown Portrait Painter Simmie Knox”

  27. sunshine616 says:

    I’m just gonna say it

    • Ametia says:

      Hi sunshine, good to see your fonts, lady.
      You have to wonder why the folks in DC and the media are gaining from reporting these incidents of hate and racism, but won’t take steps to get t6hat fucker out of the WH.

  28. sunshine616 says:

    This made my cry. Racist bs policies intended to appease white fears of revealed inadequacy. This family is suffering now for what exactly? Who has been saved, improved or helped by this action?

  29. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    “Joint Chiefs Denounce Racism After Trump’s Comments”

    Members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff — high-ranking military officials who advise the president — appeared to distance themselves from President Trump by publicly condemning racism in the aftermath of Trump’s comments about the attack in Charlottesville.

    Trump has blamed “both sides” for the violence.

    Five of the country’s top uniformed leaders — of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps and National Guard — have all sent tweets critical of “racism,” “hatred” and “extremism,” after a man who reportedly expressed admiration for Nazism allegedly drove a car into a crowd of people protesting against white supremacy Saturday. One woman, Heather Heyer, was killed, and 19 other people were injured…

    “The shameful events in Charlottesville are unacceptable and must not be tolerated,” the Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson wrote on Facebook and echoed on Twitter on Saturday night, after President Trump first blamed “many sides” for violence. “Our thoughts and prayers go to those who were killed and injured, and to all those trying to bring peace back to the community…

    It’s rare for active high-ranking members of the military to engage in political statements, and especially to publicly appear to distance themselves from the president.

  30. rikyrah says:

    Prayers for SG2’s daughter and grandbaby. Keep her daughter calm and off her feet, so that the little one can grow and develop.🙏🙏🙏

  31. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning,Everyone 😐😐😐

    • sunshine616 says:

      Good morning to everyone. Thoughts out to all of you fine people and your families. Lots of love to u all!

    • Ametia says:

      Good Morning, Everyone.

      Rikyrah, what a blessing that your sister’s health is improving enough for her to be out of ICU. I’m continuing to Send up prayers.

      How is Peanut?

      • rikyrah says:

        Peanut got to see her Grandmother yesterday. My sister said that she was full of questions. Then, she came by my house and started asking me questions. I think she was trying to figure out if her grandmother was hiding something from her. My sister is the most strict of all her grandparents, but Peanut adores her. I told her that she might be called in to help her Grandma when she left the hospital,but she was fine with that.

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