Friday Open Thread | Mueller asked WH for phone records on Air Force One statement

Special counsel Robert Mueller has asked the White House to turn over all its documents related to Donald Trump Jr.’s initial statement on a meeting with a Russian lawyer at Trump Tower.

The statement, which was reportedly drafted on Air Force One and approved by President Trump, was later shown to be false after Trump Jr. released his email correspondence about setting up the meeting.

Mueller’s investigative team has taken a broad approach to the probe, requesting any and all documents related to the controversies that have cast a cloud over the Trump administration — namely the controversial meeting between Trump’s eldest son and a Russian lawyer who promised compromising information on Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton ahead of the 2016 election.

Politico reported Thursday that phone records from Air Force One were included in the document request.

The request follows reports that Mueller hoped to interview White House staffers who were present at the time Trump dictated Trump Jr.’s initial statement.

Trump Jr. has become a key figure in the various Russia probes following reports of the meeting. He has repeatedly denied that he received any damaging information about Clinton.

Trump Jr. met with Senate investigators behind closed doors earlier this month.

Mueller’s investigation appears to be picking up steam as he continues to look into whether Trump campaign associates colluded with the Russians to sway the election in their favor.

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53 Responses to Friday Open Thread | Mueller asked WH for phone records on Air Force One statement

  1. Ametia says:
  2. Look at this, y’all. Something must be done. Police are a threat to all of us. Cop didn’t have to kill this young man. It’s so damn disturbing. 😢😢😢

  3. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    “You are growing into consciousness, and my wish for you is that you feel no need to constrict yourself to make other people comfortable.”
    ― Ta-Nehisi Coates, “Between the World and Me”

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    ― Ta-Nehisi Coates, “Between the World and Me”

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    ― Ta-Nehisi Coates, “Between the World and Me”

  4. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    Sen. Susan Collins:

    “I’m reading the fine print on Graham-Cassidy,” Collins said. “The premiums would be so high they would be unaffordable.”

  5. rikyrah says:

    Puerto Rico dam bursts in wake of Hurricane Maria

    A dam has failed and caused “extremely dangerous” flooding on Puerto Rico’s Guajataca river in the wake of Hurricane Maria, authorities say.
    The National Weather Service (NWS) said buses were “currently evacuating people from the area as quickly as they can”.
    At least 13 people have died on the US territory since Maria ripped through Puerto Rico, devastating homes and knocking out the island’s electricity.
    The island’s governor has called it the worst storm in a century.

    Operators of the Guajataca Dam said the dam, located at the northern end of Lake Guajataca in northwest Puerto Rico, failed at 14:10 local time (18:10 GMT).

    It sparked a flash flood emergency for Isabela and Quebradillas municipalities, the NWS said in a series of tweets.
    The agency urged residents in the area to “move to higher ground now” in an alert posted on its website.
    “This is an extremely dangerous and life-threatening situation. Do not attempt to travel unless you are fleeing an area subject to flooding or under an evacuation order,” the alert said.

  6. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    Excerpt from this link:

    Sen. John McCain declared his opposition Friday to the GOP’s last-ditch effort to repeal and replace “Obamacare,” dealing a likely death blow to the legislation and, perhaps, to the Republican Party’s years of vows to kill the program.

    “I cannot in good conscience vote for the Graham-Cassidy proposal,” McCain said in a statement, referring to the bill by Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Bill Cassidy of Louisiana.

    “I believe we could do better working together, Republicans and Democrats, and have not yet really tried,” he said. “Nor could I support it without knowing how much it will cost, how it will affect insurance premiums, and how many people will be helped or hurt by it.”

  7. rikyrah says:

    Call your senators NOW. Ask if they’ll join with John McCain and reject this bill. If you’re in Arizona, call and express your gratitude.
    — Ben Wikler (@benwikler) September 22, 2017

    McCain’s statement opens door for more Rs to vote No. It shows how hideously irresponsible voting Yes would be:
    — Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) September 22, 2017

  8. Liza says:

    Source: Facebook

    John McCain — US Senator for Arizona
    1 hr ·
    As I have repeatedly stressed, health care reform legislation ought to be the product of regular order in the Senate. Committees of jurisdiction should mark up legislation with input from all committee members, and send their bill to the floor for debate and amendment. That is the only way we might achieve bipartisan consensus on lasting reform, without which a policy that affects one-fifth of our economy and every single American family will be subject to reversal with every change of administration and congressional majority.

    I cannot in good conscience vote for the Graham-Cassidy proposal. I believe we could do better working together, Republicans and Democrats, and have not yet really tried. Nor could I support it without knowing how much it will cost, how it will affect insurance premiums, and how many people will be helped or hurt by it. Without a full CBO score, which won’t be available by the end of the month, we won’t have reliable answers to any of those questions.

  9. rikyrah says:

    McCain cannot ‘in good conscience’ vote for GOP repeal bill
    09/22/17 02:20 PM
    By Steve Benen
    If Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) goal was to play a consequential role in the fight over health care, he’s succeeded beautifully.

    Two months ago, it was the Arizona Republican who cast a dramatic deciding vote that derailed his party repeal push. Two weeks ago, it was McCain who seemed to throw a lifeline to the repeal crusade, telling reporters he was prepared to support the Graham-Cassidy proposal.

    And this afternoon, it was the veteran lawmaker who announced his opposition to the Graham-Cassidy plan, effectively sealing its fate.

    “I cannot in good conscience vote for the Graham-Cassidy proposal. I believe we could do better working together, Republicans and Democrats, and have not yet really tried. Nor could I support it without knowing how much it will cost, how it will effect insurance premiums, and how many people will be helped or hurt by it. Without a full CBO score, which won’t be available by the end of the month, we won’t have reliable answers to any of those questions.

    “I take no pleasure in announcing my opposition. Far from it. The bill’s authors are my dear friends, and I think the world of them. I know they are acting consistently with their beliefs and sense of what is best for the country. So am I.

    “I hope that in the months ahead, we can join with colleagues on both sides of the aisle to arrive at a compromise solution that is acceptable to most of us, and serves the interests of Americans as best we can.”

  10. rikyrah says:

    #GrahamCassidy is a long saught Republican wet dream to gut not only medicaid and health care for millions, but to punish blue states.
    — Jeff Gauvin (@JeffersonObama) September 20, 2017

  11. rikyrah says:

    GOP ‘moderates’ give up on concessions they once deemed important
    09/22/17 12:44 PM
    By Steve Benen

    Over the summer, during the various stages of the health care repeal fight, several Senate Republicans at least went through the motions. Unwilling to look like knee-jerk partisans, GOP senators like Ohio’s Rob Portman and West Virginia’s Shelley Moore Capito – sometimes labeled as “moderates” by news outlets – said they weren’t prepared to endorse the Republican plan because it was a Republican plan.

    Instead, they had certain conditions. These senators said they wanted increased investments to address the opioid crisis, for example, and additional protections for Medicaid beneficiaries. Without some concessions from GOP leaders, these senators said, their support was in doubt.

    Two months later, those same senators have apparently decided they no longer care about these conditions. Roll Call reported this week:

    Republican senators face the prospect of backtracking from their previous public stances in order to support fast-moving legislation that would significantly overhaul the U.S. health care system.

    Concerns about the impact on people suffering from opioid addiction, drastic cuts to Medicaid and the lack of robust analysis from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office appear to have vanished as the GOP hopes to advance a bill to repeal the 2010 health law before the fast-track budget reconciliation mechanism they are using expires on Sept. 30.

    It’s almost as if many Senate Republicans weren’t especially serious about their stated principles. Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) said he opposed Medicaid cuts. Portman and Capito prioritized opioid investments. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said he cared about a legitimate, thorough process – including a proper score from the Congressional Budget Office – and a lengthy policy debate.

    A big chunk of the Republican Party, including Donald Trump himself, said protections for Americans with pre-existing conditions must be part of any GOP health care package.

    And yet, here we are. Graham-Cassidy cuts Medicaid, ignores the opioid crisis, is advancing through a ridiculously truncated process, and eliminates guarantees for those with pre-existing conditions.

  12. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    “How to Help Victims of Hurricane Maria”

  13. Ametia says:

    TGIF, Everyone. I’ve been hunkered down with work projects!!! It’s all GOOD.

    Enjoy your day and have a great weekend.

  14. rikyrah says:


    Cassidy argues his bill protects people with preexisting conditions, because Trump tweeted it did
    Citing Trump’s Twitter account as an authoritative source.
    SEP 22, 2017, 9:29 AM

    During a radio interview on Thursday, Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-LA) made a case that the health care bill bearing his name must protect people with preexisting conditions, because President Trump said so in a tweet.

    In response to host C.L. Bryant’s question about how the so-called Graham-Cassidy legislation will affect people with preexisting conditions, Cassidy’s immediately brought up a tweet Trump published Wednesday evening.


    “We address the problem of preexisting conditions, indeed last night President Trump tweeted that he would not sign a bill that did not address the issue of preexisting conditions — really strong statement,” Cassidy said.

  15. rikyrah says:

    If you note…this is BELOW the 27% Crazyfication Factor.

    Poll shows weak public support for latest Republican repeal plan
    09/22/17 11:20 AM
    By Steve Benen

    There are literally no major health care institutions in the United States that believe the latest Republican health care plan is a good idea. From doctors to nurses, hospitals to insurers, patient advocates to state officials, the entire industry has scrutinized the Graham-Cassidy legislation and called for its swift defeat.

    On this, GOP policymakers are completely alone. They’ve convinced themselves – and no one else.

    But what about the public? There hasn’t been much in the way of polling – the legislation was only introduced last week – but Vox this morning highlighted what I believe is the first national survey on the pending proposal.

    With their deadline fast approaching, Senate Republicans’ rush to repeal and replace Obamacare remains as unpopular as ever with the public.

    Only 24 percent of Americans support Graham-Cassidy, the health care bill Republicans are furiously whipping to pass ahead of September 30, according to a new poll released Thursday by Public Policy Polling. The poll is the first to date of the proposed legislation, which would cripple Obamacare’s exchanges and sharply cut long-term Medicaid spending while also taking billions of funding from blue states that implemented Obamacare and giving it to red ones that did not.

  16. rikyrah says:

    BREAKING: Avalere: Graham-Cassidy cuts Medicaid by $713 billion thru 2026. Over $1 TRILLION thru 2036 even if block grants are renewed.
    — Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) September 22, 2017

  17. rikyrah says:

    Nevada’s Dean Heller is at war with himself over health care
    09/22/17 10:47 AM
    By Steve Benen

    Three months ago tomorrow, Sen. Dean Heller (R) of Nevada made a dramatic announcement. Standing alongside his home state’s Republican governor, Nevada’s Brian Sandoval, Heller became the first GOP senator to declare his opposition to his party’s health care repeal plan.

    By any fair measure, it was a bold move, which changed the trajectory of the fight. After Heller broke ranks, citing the importance of protecting Medicaid beneficiaries, other Republican senators soon followed, and the initial plan crafted by the GOP leadership failed.

    But as political pressure increased, Heller wavered. When it came time to consider the Republicans’ “skinny repeal” measure, for example, the Nevada senator toed the party line and voted with his party. Complicating matters, Heller soon after said he was “pleased” that the bill he voted for didn’t pass.

    A couple of weeks later, Heller claimed credit for having protected Medicaid from his own party, only to turn around soon after and become a leading sponsor of the Graham-Cassidy-Heller-Johnson plan that would impose deep Medicaid cuts.

    CNN reported yesterday:

    The shifts, Heller’s Republican and Democratic opponents say, suggest he is operating out of fear – first worried about not looking like a moderate, and then looking too much like a moderate.

  18. rikyrah says:

    Is anyone calling Klobucher and Bernie’s offices, asking why they’re doing this bullshyt thing on CNN?

    This should be about killing TRUMPCARE.

    This should be about shoring up Obamacare and saving healthcare for 32 million people.


  19. rikyrah says:

    Daniel Dale‏Verified account @ddale8 2h2 hours ago
    We’re on Trumpcare 4.0. He still has not been asked about, or addressed out loud, the promise-breaking Medicaid cuts in every version.

  20. rikyrah says:

    Graham-Cassidy cuts Medicaid. Reminders of what that’d mean…
    for kids
    & for the disabled
    — Jonathan Cohn (@CitizenCohn) September 22, 2017

  21. rikyrah says:

    Anna. The Kindergarten standout is using her best manners to urge @SenateGOP to stop #Tumpcare. Join this @LittleLobbyists 844-859-3118
    — (@MoveOn) September 22, 2017

  22. rikyrah says:

    Governors become important foes of Republican repeal plan
    09/22/17 10:14 AM
    By Steve Benen

    When four Republican senators unveiled the Graham-Cassidy health care plan last week – yes, it really was just last week – a reporter asked the quartet if they’d secured the support of governors who’d been skeptical of previous repeal plans. Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) replied that it was still a “work in progress.”

    A week later, we can now say those efforts failed spectacularly. The Nevada Independent reported last night:

    Gov. Brian Sandoval said Thursday that the flexibility fellow Republican Sen. Dean Heller promised will be good for Nevada in a health-care bill he’s sponsoring is a “false choice” because the legislation will also slash funding.

    Sandoval, in a statement to The Nevada Independent, said he would not “pit seniors, children, families, the mentally ill, the critically ill, hospitals, care providers or any other Nevadan against each other” because of the steep cuts to federal funding the state would face if the Heller-sponsored measure were to pass. A state analysis, also obtained by The Nevada Independent, agrees with independent calculations from various health-care organizations estimating Nevada will lose between $600 million and $2 billion in federal funding by 2026 if the legislation passes.

    Sandoval is hardly alone. Even if we put aside criticism from Democratic governors – whom GOP senators are inclined to ignore – the number of Republican governors who are publicly opposed to the Graham-Cassidy plan continues to grow.

  23. rikyrah says:

    Shirley C‏ @ghhshirley

    McCain & Murkowski are taking all calls from anywhere. Spoke with both their staff.

    35 replies 484 retweets 1,493 likes

  24. rikyrah says:

    All numbers begin 202-224:
    Graham 5971
    Cassidy 5824
    Capito 6472
    Murkowski 6665
    Collins 2523
    Gardner 5941
    Flake 4521
    McCain 2235
    Portman 3353

    — Scott Dworkin (@funder) September 20, 2017

  25. rikyrah says:

    uh huh
    uh huh

    Grassley runs into conflict with Mueller investigation
    Ron Weich, former assistant attorney general for legislative affairs, talks with Rachel Maddow about which investigation takes precedence when Congress conflicts with Robert Mueller.

  26. rikyrah says:

    Trump finds others to pay family legal bills
    Craig Holman, government affairs lobbyist for Public Citizen, talks with Rachel Maddow the laws around how money raised for a presidential inauguration can be spent.

  27. rikyrah says:

    Trump government hires based on politics, not qualifications
    Rachel Maddow looks at the grifty nature of the Trump administration, from handing out government jobs to unqualified staffers as a political favor, to cabinet members using their office to increase their own wealth.

  28. rikyrah says:

    Even though we don’t have a CBO score on the latest version of the Legislative Evil known as Trumpcare, there are plenty of organizations that have stepped up to the plate to tell the truth about it:


    Six Cassidy-Graham State Funds Flow Analyses
    by David Anderson
    at 7:56 am on September 22, 2017

    The post below is an inventory of five separate analysis of the flow of funds between states under Cassidy-Graham-Heller-Johnson in 2026 compared to current law as projected by the Congressional Budget Office. I am collecting and collating the information.

  29. rikyrah says:

    A poster over at Balloon Juice had read this and had become concerned, and asked this great question (as if we needed anymore to be worried about with these heinous sociopaths):

    I was just reading about the bill’s elimination of all Obamacare spending in 2026, and it occurred to me – is this bit intended to play games with deficit neutrality for their forthcoming tax cut bill? It’s the only thing I’ve heard about in the bill that has that time frame. It makes me think about how under reconciliation tax cuts that aren’t deficit neutral can’t be permanent (renewal vote after ten years), so maybe having that spending end right at that mark will allow them to make tax cuts permanent, without taking the political hit for cutting spending now. Can someone more knowledgeable confirm/debunk?

    This was the response by Mayhew at Balloon Juice:

    The 2026 CBO landmine in Cassidy-Graham
    by David Anderson
    at 8:26 am on September 22, 2017

    Almost but not quite. This is not a move for reconciliation. Reconciliation requires a bill bring down the deficit by the target amount in the ten year budget window AND not add to the deficit after the target window. If CG spending was a mandatory, infinite appropriation the combination of keeping most of the taxes and ratcheting down Medicaid spending via block grants would satisfy the deficit neutrality provision.

    So it is not for reconciliation that the spending on the block grants get shut off in 2026 but the taxes continue.

    It is a landmine that is waiting to be triggered in 2026.

    Presumably, Congress would not want to throw millions of more people off their insurance (yes, that is a significant assumption) so they would want to re-appropriate the block grants. However under Congressional procedures, discretionary spending increases above the baseline should be off-set with “pay-fors” which are either higher taxes or reductions in other spending. If the spending and the taxes both sunset in 2026, Congress could pass a bill saying “Keep on doing what we’ve been doing on taxes and spending” and have the new block grant for another 10 years be off-set by business as usual.

    However that is not how the bill is set up. The taxes continue into the future so they are already incorporated into the baseline. The individual insurance block grants are not in the baseline so they need to be offset. And that produces conservative leverage points for massive cuts to either the block grant or other discretionary spending. The trade-off that Cassidy-Graham is trying to set up is “Health Insurance OR (CHIP and SNAP and Education and FBI and IRS and LIHEAP) ”

    If Democrats control both chambers, the work-around is to build their budgets on “current policy” instead of the more typical “current law” baseline. If there is at least one chamber controlled by Republicans, things get ugly.

  30. rikyrah says:

    Trump aides ‘aren’t sure’ about real-world impact of repeal bill
    09/22/17 09:20 AM
    By Steve Benen

    When House Republicans first tried to pass a far-right health care plan in the spring, it enjoyed Donald Trump’s enthusiastic support. When House GOP officials tried again two months later with a slightly different proposal, the president endorsed it, too.

    In the Senate, Trump quickly threw his support behind the Republican leadership’s plan. When it failed, and Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) pushed an alternative approach, Trump endorsed it. When it failed to garner support, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) unveiled a related bill with several key changes, Trump endorsed it, too. When it fell short, and Republicans pursued “skinny repeal,” Trump, once again, backed the plan.

    The various GOP health care proposals have varied in important ways, but they’ve all had one thing in common: the enthusiastic support of the Republican president who appears to be hopelessly lost about even the most rudimentary details in this debate.

    Now, with congressional Republicans making one last regressive push to uproot the nation’s health care system, Trump has – you guessed it – endorsed the Graham-Cassidy plan. But as Politico noted, the White House has no idea what would happen to Americans if the proposal were actually imposed on the public.

    One official said the concerns from governors have alarmed some in the White House – and that “we really aren’t sure what the impact will be” of passing the bill.

    At least we’ve achieved some degree of unanimity on this: congressional Republicans who are eager to pass the bill have no idea what would happen if it’s implemented, and the president who’s eager to sign the bill is similarly clueless. None of these GOP officials has the foggiest idea how many Americans would lose coverage, how unstable the markets would become, how states would respond, or how much more consumers would pay for care – but it might pass next week anyway.

  31. rikyrah says:

    GOP eyes special side deal to buy key senator’s health care vote
    09/22/17 08:00 AM
    By Steve Benen


    The Senate’s Obamacare repeal bill may protect Alaska and up to four other sparsely populated states from major cuts to Medicaid through 2026, a potential boon to the home of pivotal GOP swing vote Sen. Lisa Murkowski.

    The plan from Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Bill Cassidy (R-La.) allows a limited number of states to opt out of its new Medicaid financing system, which would give states set sums to run their programs and do away with the open-ended entitlement that exists today.

    The scheme has already received quite a few unflattering nicknames: “Alaska Purchase,” “Klondike Kickback,” and my personal favorite, “Polar Payoff.” Whatever you’re inclined to call it, the underlying idea appears to be a straightforward pitch to Murkowski: if she’ll vote with her party to repeal Obamacare, Republicans will let Alaska keep Obamacare. The irony of such a move, of course, appears to be lost on the idea’s proponents.

    There’s a lot to this development, so let’s take the various elements one at a time:

    1. Though the reports about this attempted pay-off have not yet been confirmed, Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.), the lead architect of the Graham-Cassidy plan, didn’t exactly deny the reports’ accuracy. His spokesperson only said that “no changes of any kind have been finalized.”

    2. As recently as June, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), the other half of Graham-Cassidy, said that efforts to buy senators’ votes with side deals are “crap,” and if his party started going down this road, “they’re going to lose me.” Perhaps he’s changed his mind?

    3. In July, there was related chatter about Republicans trying to effectively bribe Murkowski with a special side deal for Alaska, and at the time, she said she wasn’t interested. “Let’s just say that they do something that’s so Alaska-specific just to, quote, ‘get me,’” Murkowski said at the time. “Then you have a nationwide system that doesn’t work. That then comes crashing down and Alaska’s not able to kind of keep it together on its own.” If she hasn’t changed her mind, this new gambit will fail.

    4. Creating a new, national law that exempts a handful of states may not be constitutional.

    5. If Republicans are prepared to shield Alaska from the brutality of their own legislation, won’t other senators ask for similar deals for their own states?

  32. rikyrah says:

    It probably shouldn’t come as a surprise that David Horowitz would espouse white supremacist sentiments.

    Coates has only hateful things to say about whites and America, a country that freed his ancestors, made him famous, privileged and rich.

    — David Horowitz (@horowitz39) September 21, 2017

    Suggesting that African Americans should be grateful that, after almost 250 years and a Civil War, we finally ended slavery is bad enough. But think for a moment about who Horowitz credits for the brilliance of Coates’ writing, which is what brought him a modicum of fame and fortune…white America.

    Let’s add this one to the list, “You might be a white supremacist if you think white people deserve credit for the achievements of black people.”

  33. rikyrah says:

    Quick Takes: How Do You Buy a Vote to Repeal Obamacare?
    A roundup of news that caught my eye today.

    by Nancy LeTourneau
    September 21, 2017

    Things must not be looking good for passage of the Graham-Cassidy bill because Republicans are apparently trying to buy Sen. Murkowski’s vote with these additions:

    1. Alaska (along with Hawaii) will continue to receive Obamacare’s premium tax credits while they are repealed for all other states. It appears this exemption will not affect Alaska receiving its state allotment under the new block grant in addition to the premium tax credits.

    2. Delays implementation of the Medicaid per capita caps for Alaska and Hawaii for years in which the policy would reduce their funding below what they would have received in 2020 plus CPI-M [Consumer Price Index for Medical Care].

    3. Provides for an increased federal Medicaid matching rate (FMAP) for both Alaska and Hawaii.”

    This pretty much nails what’s going on.

    If you want to know how great the Graham-Cassidy bill is for states, the bribe for Alaska is that THEY GET TO KEEP OBAMACARE!!

    — Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) September 21, 2017

  34. rikyrah says:

    Who Is Telling the Truth About Pre-Existing Conditions?
    by Nancy LeTourneau September 21, 2017

    Since the day that a Republican first uttered the words, “repeal and replace” in reference to Obamacare, the party has been promising to keep the regulation that prohibited insurance companies from charging higher premiums to those with pre-existing conditions. The reason is, of course, because that is one of the most popular provisions in Obamacare. Does Graham-Cassidy keep that promise?

    Obviously Jimmy Kimmel’s segment the other night, in which he made it clear that the answer to that question is “no,” had an impact. Yesterday morning Trump tweeted this:

    I would not sign Graham-Cassidy if it did not include coverage of pre-existing conditions. It does! A great Bill. Repeal & Replace.

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 20, 2017

    One of the authors of the bill, Sen. Lindsay Graham, followed up with this:

    Claims that #GrahamCassidy-Heller-Johnson doesn’t cover pre-existing conditions — #FakeNews on steroids!

    — Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) September 21, 2017

    What most Americans will hear is that Kimmel said the Republican bill will not protect those with pre-existing conditions while both the president and the author of the bill say that it will. That is a classic case of bothsiderism—which means that people will believe whoever it is that they trust.

    This is precisely why Trump and Republicans have worked so hard to discredit the media. It allows them to suggest that any fact-checks on their claims can simply be called #FakeNews. It is also why we are beginning to see personal attacks on Jimmy Kimmel. Anything that goes contrary to their claims must be discredited.

    For those who are actually interested in the facts, there are people like Sarah Kliff who have explained how Graham-Cassidy neuters the current protections for those with pre-existing conditions. But the truth is a bit complicated and most people won’t be willing to dig that hard to find it.

    This provides us with a perfect example of how our culture feeds political polarization. But in this one instance, we have an interesting check on that. Take a look at what a company that would be perceived as the beneficiary of a rollback of these regulations had to say.

    The Blue Cross Blue Shield Association warned against a new GOP ObamaCare bill on Wednesday, saying it would “undermine” protections for pre-existing conditions.

    “The bill contains provisions that would allow states to waive key consumer protections, as well as undermine safeguards for those with pre-existing medical conditions,” the association said in a statement.

    The bill would allow states to repeal ObamaCare rules that prevent people with pre-existing conditions from being charged higher premiums.

  35. rikyrah says:

    Yes, Roy Moore Hates the Gays
    by Martin Longman
    September 21, 2017

    I am a little perplexed that people are focusing so much today on the fact that Roy Moore, an Alabama candidate for U.S. Senate, said back in 2015 that homosexuality ought to be illegal. I thought that this was a core belief of Moore’s that pretty much everyone who knew even a tiny bit about him already understood. I mean, isn’t the following the most basic biographical information about Moore?

    Moore was elected to the position of Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court in 2001, but removed from his position in November 2003 by the Alabama Court of the Judiciary for refusing to remove a monument of the Ten Commandments commissioned by him from the Alabama Judicial Building, despite orders to do so by a federal court…

    …Moore was again elected Chief Justice in 2013, but was suspended in May 2016, for directing probate judges to continue to enforce the state’s ban on same-sex marriage despite the fact that it had been overturned. Following an unsuccessful appeal, Moore resigned in April 2017, and announced that he would be running for the United States Senate seat which was vacated by Jeff Sessions, upon his confirmation as Attorney General of the United States.

  36. rikyrah says:

    Kimmel showed a ‘better grasp of health policy’ than GOP’s Cassidy
    09/21/17 04:34 PM
    By Steve Benen
    It started in May. As regular readers know, late-night host Jimmy Kimmel spoke on the air about his young son’s heart surgery, and his belief that all Americans should have access to affordable, potentially life-saving, care.

    Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) soon after began referencing the “Jimmy Kimmel Test”: for a health care proposal to have merit, the Louisiana Republican said, it should ensure families are covered regardless of income. Cassidy even appeared on Kimmel’s show, vowing to protect Americans who need protecting.

    The GOP senator, however, changed quite dramatically, abandoned the “test,” and partnered with Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on a radical, regressive proposal – which the ABC host shredded in a brutal monologue on Tuesday night. Cassidy, Kimmel said, “lied right to my face,” referencing an appearance the Republican made on “Jimmy Kimmel Live.”

    The senator quickly defended himself, making a variety of television appearances in which he argued that Kimmel doesn’t know what he’s talking about. “I am sorry he does not understand,” the senator told CNN. “More people will have coverage, and we protect those with pre-existing conditions.”

    So, who’s right? In reality, more people won’t have coverage, Cassidy isn’t protecting those with pre-existing conditions, and Politico published a piece quoting health care analysts who concluded that between the host and the senator, “the late-night host has the better grasp of health policy.”

  37. rikyrah says:

    Kimmel: these guys won’t tell the truth so I have to
    Jimmy Kimmel spends a third night explaining why his health care fight is worth the risk and this time he takes on the President. Joy Reid, Eugene Robinson and Josh Earnest join Lawrence O’Donnell.

  38. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    Ernest Green, one of the Little Rock Nine who in 1957 desegregated Little Rock Central High School, was born on this day, September 22, in 1941.

    Video: “Ernest Green and the Little Rock Nine”

    Video: “The Little Rock Nine Remember the First Day of Desegregation | The Oprah”
    Winfrey Show

  39. rikyrah says:

    Spicer has diaries from his time at the WH.
    BWA HA HA HA HA HA 😄😅😅

  40. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning,Everyone 😐😐😐

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