Wednesday Open Thread | Jeff Sessions is so very, very screwed

PalmerReport: On Monday it became clear that the only option left for Jeff Sessions would be to play the obliviousness defense. On Tuesday it became clear that even that defense won’t have any chance of working. Sessions now finds himself in cascading levels of trouble, thanks to the guilty plea and confession of his campaign subordinate George Papadopoulos, and the relationship Sessions had with Papadopoulos.

Papadopoulos claimed in his confession that before he conspired with the Russian government to try to obtain emails stolen from Hillary Clinton, he got the explicit approval of Paul Manafort and Sam Clovis. Papadopoulos also claimed that Jeff Sessions was in the meeting and was fully aware of the discussion. Others were also in the room, so Sessions won’t be able to argue that he wasn’t there. His only defense would be to claim that he wasn’t following the discussion because he didn’t know who Papadopoulos was, or didn’t consider him important enough to be worth listening to. But that just went out the window.

When Jeff Sessions held a dinner for a number of Trump campaign advisers, he had George Papadopoulos sit right next to him, according to a Washington Post report (link). This makes clear that Sessions not only knew Papadopoulos, but considered him to be one of the most important Trump campaign advisers. It means Sessions would have been fully engaged during the meeting where Papadopoulos sought clearance for his Russian conspiracy meeting.

So there’s no question that Jeff Sessions knew full well that his campaign subordinate was seeking approval to conspire with the Russian government to procure stolen emails – and at the least, he tacitly let it happen by not objecting. This makes him guilty of conspiracy to receive stolen property, or some other similar variation of the law. That’s in addition to the perjury he committed by claiming under oath not to be aware of any Trump advisers meeting with Russia. Robert Mueller can – and will – indict Sessions on a smorgasbord of charges unless he flips on Trump first.

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51 Responses to Wednesday Open Thread | Jeff Sessions is so very, very screwed

  1. rikyrah says:

    I’m going to say this again..



    The US COMFORT – that huge floating hospital…


    Let me repeat that.



  2. rikyrah says:

    Rachel M says that the #2 lawyer in the Marines has been put in prison at Guantanamo Bay.

    Because, he doesn’t believe that one of the prisoners is getting fair representation and stood up to correct it.

  3. Ametia says:

    TUESDAY, OCTOBER 31, 2017

    “Do Something!” Trump’s Threats of Violence and Chaos From the White House

    Speculation has now yielded to fact. On Monday, the grand jury impaneled by special counsel Robert Mueller to investigate Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election issued its first indictments. Several of Trump’s closest advisers have been charged with breaking the law. This is the clearest evidence yet that Russia was able to penetrate and gain influence at the highest levels of Trump’s presidential campaign.

  4. rikyrah says:

    Notre Dame takes advantage of Trump rule, drops birth control coverage
    11/01/17 12:40 PM
    By Steve Benen

    It’s about a month since the Trump administration dramatically altered the Affordable Care Act’s approach to birth control, opening the door to practically every U.S. employer refusing to cover their workers’ contraception. All it takes it showing “sincerely held” religious or moral objections.

    Once the policy was made official, one of the obvious questions was just how many employers would take advantage of the shift. Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services suggested the number would be quite modest, and most Americans wouldn’t notice any change, but once the door was open, it was difficult to guess how many would walk through.

    Slate noted that one rather high-profile employer wasted little time in embracing Trump’s policy.

    On Friday, Indiana Public Media reports, Notre Dame notified employees and students that starting next year – on Jan. 1, 2018, and Aug. 15, 2018, respectively – birth control will no longer be covered under the insurance plans the university offers.

    Thousands of Indiana women stand to lose their contraception coverage in coming months, putting them on the hook for a greater risk of unwanted pregnancies or, if they choose to pay out of pocket, thousands of dollars in expenses their male colleagues will never have to pay.

  5. rikyrah says:

    Following New York attack, Trump flunks another leadership test
    11/01/17 09:29 AM—UPDATED 11/01/17 09:40 AM
    By Steve Benen

    In the immediate aftermath of the suspected terrorist incident in New York yesterday afternoon, Donald Trump tweeted a series of clumsy but inoffensive messages. “My thoughts, condolences and prayers to the victims and families of the New York City terrorist attack,” the president said at one point. “God and your country are with you!”

    Trump did not, however, wait long before following his worst instincts.

    President Donald Trump said Wednesday that the Uzbek immigrant suspected of murdering eight people in New York City with a rental truck entered the U.S. through the “Diversity Visa Lottery Program” and the president charged Sen. Chuck Schumer and Democrats had loosened the nation’s borders.

    Trump did not provide any supporting evidence for the claim about the visa program, which was being discussed on the morning TV program “Fox and Friends” that the president indicated in his tweets that he was watching.


    But the more disheartening takeaway is Trump’s apparent inability to deal responsibly with terrorist violence. This morning’s tantrum was ugly, but as regular readers know, it was not out of character for this president.

  6. rikyrah says:

    The terrorist came into our country through what is called the “Diversity Visa Lottery Program,” a Chuck Schumer beauty. I want merit based.

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 1, 2017

    Actually, the Gang of 8, including @SenSchumer, did away with the Diversity Visa Program as part of broader reforms. I know, I was there— Jeff Flake (@JeffFlake) November 1, 2017

    In fact, had the Senate Gang of 8 bill passed the House, it would have ended the Visa Lottery Program AND increased merit based visas.— Jeff Flake (@JeffFlake) November 1, 2017

  7. Ametia says:

    A new GIF

  8. rikyrah says:


    Which means Mueller made sure he had Clovis on record BEFORE letting the world know Clovis’s underling was a cooperating witness.

    — Zedward Tweeterhands (@ZeddRebel) October 31, 2017

  9. rikyrah says:

    So, *this* Sam Clovis that Trump named last month to USDA despite any qualifications other than being a campaign “supervisor”?

    — Harry Godwyn (@harrygod) October 30, 2017

    White House: We won’t withdraw Trump USDA pick despite report he told ex-Trump aide to meet with Russians

    — The Hill (@thehill) October 31, 2017

  10. rikyrah says:

    Papadopoulos’ unnamed “supervisor” is Sam Clovis, and the “high-ranking” official is Manafort, source tells @Isikoff

    — Colin Campbell (@colincampbell) October 30, 2017

  11. rikyrah says:

    Another comment from BJ:

    Calouste says:
    November 1, 2017 at 11:23 am
    Two thoughts about Papadopoulos:
    1) How does a 29 year old who lives in London and is not working in the foreign policy field get a position on the Foreign Policy committee of a US presidential campaign? I read somewhere he was in oil and gas, but that’s about it.
    2) The reaction of the shitgibbon is signaling that he is willing to throw everyone under the bus (not that we didn’t know that already). That’s not exactly encouraging other flunkies to not cut a deal with Mueller. The reason the mafia omerta worked was that they would take care of the guys who ended up in prison and their families. Mueller is offering these folks a deal, the shitgibbon is offering them.. nothing.

    • Liza says:

      My theory on Papadopoulos, based solely on common sense, is this. He didn’t expect Trump to win and took the exciting job. I think this might be true of other Trump associates as well. If you’re on what you think is a losing team, just take the money, the trips, the excitement, etc…and it’s over when it’s over. I doubt they gave much thought to wrongdoing, investigations, arrests, etc… Why would they have loyalty?

  12. rikyrah says:


    If I’m reading Zeddy’s tweets correctly, he’s saying Clovis either ‘fessed up at the Grand Jury hearing or lied under oath at the Grand Jury hearing, and Mueller has the goods because Papadopoulos has been a cooperating witness. I guess we’ll see soon. My bet is that Clovis lied to the Grand Jury, which is, as Joe Biden would say, a BFD.

    I think he lied too. Sitting there, lying like a muthaphucka, all the while, Bobby Three Sticks has all the answers to the questions he’s being asked.

    man…oh man….oh man….

  13. Ametia says:

    Why I Hate When People Stay In Other People’s Pockets

    Amanda Seales’ latest tweets shook the table and sparked an ongoing debate that needs to literally die.


    2017 has already been divisive AF. There isn’t a need whatsoever to spark a debate on how we spend our black a$$ dollars. If you’re not trying to help, inspire or educate, please sit down.

  14. rikyrah says:

    Ex-US Attorney: Trump team should worry as new aide testifies
    Barbara McQuade, fmr. US Attorney, says the White House should be “very concerned” about Sam Clovis’ cooperation with Mueller’s probe. It suggests others may soon be targeted for interviews. Ezra Klein, Barbara McQuade & Jonathan Capehart join Lawrence O’Donnell.

  15. rikyrah says:

    Will only point out that the ‘terrorist’ in NYC was shot and lived long enough to get to surgery.
    Kills 8, and lives to get to surgery.

    Uh huh
    Uh huh

  16. rikyrah says:

    Republicans miss their own deadline on tax plan unveiling
    11/01/17 08:41 AM—UPDATED 11/01/17 08:45 AM
    By Steve Benen

    Today was supposed to be the day. After months of behind-the-scenes negotiations and behind-closed-doors legislating, House Republicans recently boasted that their tax plan would be unveiled on Wednesday, November 1.

    This wouldn’t just be an outline or a vague blueprint; GOP leaders assured everyone that this would be actual legislative text, ready for committee scrutiny. Everyone involved in the debate was ready to see what Republicans had finally come up with.

    The wait, however, will continue a little longer.

    House Republicans will delay releasing their tax bill until Thursday, it was announced Tuesday night.

    The bill had originally been scheduled to be unveiled Wednesday. But speculation over a delay was rampant on Capitol Hill on Tuesday night, with representatives of House leaders pointing to the Ways and Means Committee for any final decision or announcement…. Republican members privately aired their frustration with a process that they feel cut out of, and some issues were still unresolved hours before the bill had been slated for release.

  17. rikyrah says:

    It’s too late for Trump World to balk at ‘racially charged’ label
    11/01/17 08:00 AM
    By Steve Benen


    “I think the fact that we keep trying to drive – the media continues to want to make this and push that this is some sort of a racially charged and divided White House.”

    I’m afraid it’s a little late from Trump World to express discomfort with the “racially charged” label.

    This is, after all, a rather unique presidency. Donald Trump’s rise to political power was fueled in large part by his role championing a racist conspiracy theory about the nation’s first black president. As a candidate for public office, Trump went after Judge Gonzalo Curiel because of his ethnicity, hesitated when asked to denounce David Duke, and equated Mexican immigrants with rapists.

    As a president, Trump has pushed several versions of a Muslim ban, defended some racist activists as “very fine people,” and launched a prolonged feud with athletes engaged in a silent civil-rights protest.

    Now, the president’s chief of staff is describing the cause of the Civil War in a decidedly ahistorical way.

    If there’s a “racially charged” narrative surrounding this White House, it isn’t “the media” that created it.

  18. rikyrah says:

    Six women have come out against Brett Ratner, saying he harrassed them.

  19. rikyrah says:

    Be sure to let your normal friends on Facebook know that 80% of us can get covered for $75 or less a month at

    — LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) November 1, 2017

  20. rikyrah says:

    Multiple passports cited in Manafort flight risk concerns
    Joyce Vance, former federal prosecutor, talks with Rachel Maddow about the concerns raised by federal investigators that Paul Manafort is a flight risk, including his history of using multiple passports and aliases.

  21. rikyrah says:

    Newly unsealed court documents tie Manafort, Gates to Russia
    Rachel Maddow reports on newly unsealed court documents in the cases of Donald Trump campaign workers Paul Manafort and Rick Gates which detail their terms of release and connections abroad.

  22. rikyrah says:

    Today’s Schedule for the Obama Foundation Summit.

    Today’s schedule:


    In a discussion moderated by Cecilia Muñoz, we’ll delve into the role workplaces and employers play in building strong, healthy communities.
    Andy Puddicombe @ Headspace
    David Simas @ Obama Foundation
    Ai-jen Poo @ National Domestic Workers Alliance
    Hamdi Ulukaya @ Chobani
    Joe Gebbia @ Airbnb
    Brian Alexander, Author
    Mary Kay Henry @ SEIU

    In a conversation with poet Elizabeth Alexander, Mrs. Obama will discuss her sources of inspiration and what it takes to live a life of public service.

    Solutions to the world’s most pressing problems are being invented and adapted every day by groups of people who have found common cause. President Obama to speak.
    Liz Dozier @ Chicago Beyond
    Eric Liu @ Citizen University
    Common, Actor and Musician
    Brenda Eheart @ Generations of Hope
    Adebola Williams, Nigerian entrepreneur and journalist
    Tina Rosenberg @ Solutions Journalism Network
    Chef José Andrés @ ThinkFoodGroup
    Michael Tubbs, Mayor of Stockton, CA
    Bryan Stevenson @ Equal Justice Initiative

    Join thousands gathering for our community event that will celebrate civic leaders making a difference around the world and inspire those in attendance and watching live to make a positive impact in their own communities. Don’t miss performances by Chance the Rapper, Gloria Estefan, and The National.

  23. rikyrah says:

    One of the reasons why I actually do like Twitter.

    The clapback to this muthaphucka was hilarious.

    Donald Trump Jr.’s Bizarre Halloween ‘Lesson’ Backfires Spectacularly
    That didn’t go over well.
    By Ed Mazza

    Trump Jr. doesn’t seem to know how Halloween works.

    The whole point of trick-or-treating, of course, is that children get candy ― free ― from friendly neighbors.

    But in a tweet Tuesday, the eldest son of President Donald Trump indicated that he would take half of his daughter’s Halloween haul and give it away to teach her about socialism.

    The tweet quickly backfired, with more than 30,000 comments. Many of them looked a lot like these:

  24. rikyrah says:

    “Can’t even get them to show up for free food”: in part out of faith in Trump, some coal miners resist retraining:

    — Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 1, 2017

  25. rikyrah says:

    Establishment Republicans Will Lose Their Civil War With the Insurgents
    by Nancy LeTourneau
    November 1, 2017 PM

    As we draw closer to the 2018 midterm primaries, one of the most fascinating things to watch will be what I’ve described as the battle of the oligarchs. It pits Steve Bannon as the proxy warrior for the Mercers against Sen. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell as the proxy warrior for the Koch brothers. In terms we’ve been throwing around a lot over the last couple of years, it’s all about the insurgents taking on the establishment.

    But the truth is, this really isn’t much of a contest. The establishment might come out ahead occasionally in a specific skirmish, but when it comes to the soul of the Republican Party, the insurgents took over a while ago. Recently I pointed to an article by David Drucker titled, “Trump has won the civil war where it counts—with voters.” But as David Hopkins points out, that is the result of a victory that was realized a while ago.

    The increasingly bitter divide between the elected and unelected wings of the Republican Party pits traditional leaders like Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell against media personalities like Breitbart chair (and ex-Trump adviser) Steve Bannon — two men who are now openly attacking each other as they fight for control of the GOP…

    The turmoil in Republican ranks is often described as pitting the party’s leadership class against an unruly popular “base.” But as scholars of public opinion often point out, few citizens develop strong political opinions or are mobilized to political action without influence from trusted authorities. What’s changed is whom voters are listening to: Unelected elite actors, especially conservative media figures, are gaining influence over the behavior of Republican voters while officeholders and candidates are losing it…

    Many Republicans cheered the emergence of the modern conservative media universe during the 1990s and early 2000s as a necessary counterweight to the perceived ideological bias of mainstream journalism. They may regret that support today. Over the past decade, it’s become clear the conservative media can be weaponized against Republican politicians even more easily than against Democrats, since most of its audience is far more likely to participate in a Republican primary than to consider voting Democratic in a general election.

  26. rikyrah says:

    No such thing as a moderate Republican…..

    Where Moderate Republicans Are Wildly Popular
    by Martin Longman October 31, 2017

    Morning Consult has updated their popularity ratings for the nation’s fifty governors. Some of the results aren’t too surprising. The least popular governor in the country is Chris Christie of New Jersey. He’s followed by Connecticut governor, Dan Malloy. Also trailing the pack are Republican governors Mary Fallin of Oklahoma, Sam Brownback of Kansas, and Bruce Rauner of Illinois.

    What’s less predictable is the profile of the most popular governors.

    The two most best-rated are Larry Hogan of Maryland and Charlie Baker of Massachusetts. Not far behind them are Phil Scott and Chris Sununu of Vermont and New Hampshire, respectively.

    What they all have in common is that they are Republicans serving their first term in states Hillary Clinton won. In fact, Vermont, Maryland, and Massachusetts were some of her strongest states.

  27. rikyrah says:

    Quick Takes: Sarah Huckabee Sanders Excels at Gaslighting
    A roundup of news that caught my eye today.

    by Nancy LeTourneau
    October 31, 2017

    * During today’s press briefing, this is what Sarah Huckabee Sanders said about the plea agreement the Mueller team reached with George Papadopolous:

    “Papadopoulos is an example of actually somebody doing the wrong thing while the president’s campaign did the right thing,” Sanders said. “All of his emails were voluntarily provided to the special counsel by the campaign, and that is what led to the process and the place that we’re in right now is the campaign fully cooperating and helping with that. What Papadopoulos did was lie, and that’s on him and not on the campaign, and we can’t speak to that.”

    Here is how Wikipedia defines gaslighting: “a form of manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt…in members of a targeted group, hoping to make them question their own memory, perception, and sanity. Using persistent denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, it attempts to destabilize the target and delegitimize the target’s belief.” In other words, it goes beyond lying and becomes a form of manipulation.

    Sanders wants us to believe that the Trump campaign should get credit for the arrest of Papadopoulos. She also suggests that his crime was to lie—something that had nothing to do with the campaign. Of course she didn’t mention that he lied to cover up his conversations with campaign officials about setting up meetings with Russian operatives, which actually has everything to do with the Trump campaign. Also, there’s this:

  28. Liza says:

    I would so love to see a Jeff Sessions perp walk.

  29. rikyrah says:

    Me reading the title of this post😄😄😄

  30. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😐😐😐

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