Monday Open Thread | Confirmed: Robert Mueller has far more Trump-Russia evidence than previously known

Palmer Report: All along, it’s appeared that Special Counsel Robert Mueller knows far more about Donald Trump’s Russia scandal than Congress, the media, or the public knows. Although Mueller keeps his cards close to the vest, his actions periodically suggest that he’s several steps ahead of the game. Now comes confirmation that Mueller knows about a whole new set of Trump-Russia meetings that are not yet public.

Buried all the way down in the fifteenth paragraph of a new Washington Post article, you’ll find this key revelation: “Witnesses questioned by Mueller’s team warn that investigators are asking about other foreign contacts and meetings that have not yet become public, and to expect a series of new revelations.”  In other words, this week the media managed to expose Donald Trump Jr’s contacts with WikiLeaks and Jared Kushner’s contacts with a suspected Russian mobster, and yet those are still far from the last of the Trump-Russia contacts that Mueller already knows about.

So just what are we looking at here? The WaPo article hints that many of the secret meetings involved Donald Trump’s former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, who is reportedly on the verge of being arrested on a variety of charges which may include conspiracy to commit kidnapping (Flynn denies the charges). So even as the media has been recently exposing Trump-Russia meetings involving members of Donald Trump’s family, Robert Mueller is focused on Trump-Russia meetings of an entirely different nature.

Another remarkable part of the WaPo article in question is the revelation that Donald Trump and his attorney Ty Cobb are both insisting Robert Mueller’s investigation will be completed soon, and that Trump will be exonerated. That’s nothing short of delusional. Mueller is just getting started, and has only arrested three of the dozens of Trump-Russia players he’s targeting. Moreover, Mueller’s entire gameplan is based around getting these targets to flip on Trump himself. Trump isn’t just a target of the investigation; he’s the target.

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57 Responses to Monday Open Thread | Confirmed: Robert Mueller has far more Trump-Russia evidence than previously known

  1. yahtzeebutterfly says:

    I missed this when it was posted on Youtube in July:

    Movie trailer for A Wrinkle in Time:

  2. Ametia says:


  3. rikyrah says:

    Republicans Learn The Hard Way: You Break Obamacare, You Own It
    Published NOVEMBER 20, 2017 6:00 AM

    As his administration has steadily chipped away at the Affordable Care Act, President Donald Trump has repeatedly insisted that the public will blame the Democratic Party for any health care fallout.

    Now, as Republicans in Congress inch towards striking what could be the biggest blow yet to Obamacare—sticking a provision repealing the individual mandate into their tax bill—even some on the right are starting to sweat that the GOP will fully own the issue going forward.

    “You can make an argument that Obamacare is falling of its own weight, until we repeal the individual mandate,” a grave-faced Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) told reporters in the halls of the Capitol on Thursday. “I hope every Republican knows that when you pass a repeal of the individual mandate, it’s no longer their problem. It becomes our problem.”

  4. rikyrah says:

    Cohen-Watnick Strikes Again?
    Published NOVEMBER 20, 2017 2:50 PM

    Buzzfeed reported this morning that multiple sources claim that National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster called President Trump an “idiot” and a “dope” in a private dinner with Oracle CEO Safra Catz. McMaster also criticized Steve Bannon, Rex Tillerson and said presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner has no business being involved in national security issues at all. According to Buzzfeed, Catz told one source “[the conversation was so inappropriate that it was jaw-dropping.”

    Now, let’s stipulate that the President is a dope, many of his top aides are dopes and Jared Kushner has no business being in any position in government at all.

    But there’s a detail here that seems pretty germane to understanding the story.

    McMaster was brought in to clean up the Mike Flynn mess and over time he fired most or maybe now all the Flynn loyalists as his power in the job grew. Public reports suggest that his biggest and most consistent antagonist was a Flynn protege named Ezra Cohen-Watnick, a guy who seems to have worked with Rep. Devin Nunes in Nunes’ ‘unmasking’ escapade. McMaster tried to fire him shortly after he took over from Flynn but was blocked by Kushner and Bannon.

    Finally, in early August, McMaster canned Cohen-Watnick.

    So where did Cohen-Watnick land after finally getting bounced from the National Security Council? Funny you’d ask! He went to work in the DC office of Oracle.

  5. rikyrah says:

    Republican tax cuts will hurt Americans. And Democrats will pay the price
    Bruce Bartlett
    The consequences of the tax program will shelve support for the Republicans, but once in power the Democrats’ hands will be financially bound for years

    I think many Democrats and independent political observers are puzzled by the intensity with which Republicans are pursuing their tax cut. It’s not politically popular and may well lead to the party’s defeat in next year’s congressional elections. So why do it?

    The answer is that Republicans are pushing the tax cut at breakneck speed precisely because they know they are probably going to lose next year and in 2020 as well. The tax cut, once enacted, however, will bind the hands of Democrats for years to come, forcing them to essentially follow a Republican agenda of deficit reduction and prevent any action on a positive Democratic program. The result will be a steady erosion of support for Democrats that will put Republicans back in power within a few election cycles.


    I believe that the same cycle will rerun over the next few years. Should Democrats get control of the House and/or Senate next year, Trump and his party will insist that deficit reduction be the only order of business. Automatic spending cuts resulting directly from the tax cut will start to bite, hurting the poor and middle class primarily, according to the Congressional Budget Office, and making them forget that they resulted from a huge tax give-away to the wealthy that increased the deficit by $1.5tn. Democrats will get much of the blame due to time-inconsistency.

    It’s possible that Trump’s appointees to the Federal Reserve may be so alarmed by the inflationary potential of the growing deficits that they will raise interest rates in response. This could trigger a recession that will be blamed on a Democratic president taking office in 2021, just as happened with Obama. But that president may not be able to enact any stimulus at all because deficits crowd out any fiscal space. By 2022, Republicans will be back in control of Congress and in the White House by 2024. In 2025, they will demand still more tax cuts.

    The Resistance Now: activists plan to protest the Republican tax bill
    Read more
    Keep in mind that no matter how big the deficit gets from the tax cut Republicans are rushing to enact, none of them will ever vote to undo those cuts or raise taxes except, perhaps, in ways that further burden the poor, such as raising the gasoline tax. That is because they all signed a tax pledge promising never to raise taxes. Therefore, any deficit reduction will either consist solely of spending cuts or pass with only Democratic votes, as was the case in 1993.

  6. rikyrah says:

    Ari is on it.

    Trump judicial nominee who defended NC voter suppression law & racial gerrymandering may have lied to Senate about his role in Jesse Helms effort to disenfranchise over 100,000 black voters

    — Ari Berman (@AriBerman) November 20, 2017

  7. rikyrah says:

    Why is Donald Trump launching a withering attack on nonprofits?
    David Callahan

    According to an analysis by the Joint Committee on Taxation provisions of the House bill – specifically, a doubling of the standard deduction – 31 million taxpayers would no longer be incentivized to make charitable deductions, gutting a tax break that has helped spur giving for 100 years.

    Scrapping the estate tax – another feature of the House bill (although not the Senate version) – would lower donations by eliminating a major incentive for the wealthiest Americans to devote large fortunes to philanthropy…

    The bill would also impose a 1.4% tax on income generated by university endowments, and penalize nonprofit executive salaries over $1m a year – although it says nothing about exponentially higher levels of corporate compensation.

  8. rikyrah says:

    Members of Congress are on recess for the next 7 days.. The Town Hall Project has an updated list of where local Town Halls will be held: Show up. Speak out.

    — meta (@metaquest) November 20, 2017

  9. rikyrah says:

    Va. Elections boss just said there were 83 voters wrongly assigned in a House district where the Republican is currently leading by 82 votes.

    — Alan Suderman (@AlanSuderman) November 20, 2017

  10. rikyrah says:

    NEWS: On Thanksgiving, Pope Francis will meet @RevDrBarber, who’s leading a revival of MLK’s Poor People’s Campaign. Barber is among international grassroots leaders meeting @Pontifex that day.

    — Laurie Goodstein (@lauriegnyt) November 20, 2017

  11. rikyrah says:

    The Democrats need to be holding Town Halls in nearby GOP districts to ‘ explain’ the tax bill.

    Don’t let the GOP hide out when on Thanksgiving recess.

  12. rikyrah says:

    Good riddance to bad rubbish

    This greeted me as I sipped on my morning coffee:

    Could there be a realignment under way? Fmr. DNC Chair candidate @Ronan4Progress joins @LindsayBrownNJ7 in running for Congress as a Republican. Both are left wing progressives. @TomPerez should take note.

    — Walker Bragman (@WalkerBragman) November 20, 2017

    First: Walker Bragman: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Secondly: Any “progressive” who runs as a Republican is no progressive.

    Thirdly: Good luck winning a GOP primary.

    And, lastly: Well, what else can you say? Bernie progressives are upset because the Democrats haven’t bent to their will and anointed Bernie Sanders as permanent Secretary General of the party. So, these two gonefs are taking their balls and saying: “See, we’ll just run as Republicans if you’re not nice to us!” That’s like a Social Democrat in Germany deciding to run as a rightwing AfD candidate. It would make one wonder about his or her’s devotion to liberal principles in the first place.

  13. rikyrah says:

    From the pinkos at Forbes: “The GOP tax cut will be the start of a decades-long economic disaster unlike any other that has occurred in US history”

    — Robert Maguire (@RobertMaguire_) November 20, 2017

  14. rikyrah says:

    RIP, Della Reese

  15. Liza says:

    This article is too funny…

    COMEDY 11/20/2017 01:55 am ET
    Country Singer Neal McCoy’s Anti-Anthem Protest Song Backfires Hilariously
    “Take A Knee, My Ass (I Won’t Take A Knee)” is bringing out the grammar critics.

    By Ed Mazza

  16. rikyrah says:

    Clash of civilizations: meet Doug Jones, the overlooked Alabama U.S. Senate candidate challenging Roy Moore

    The candidates in the Dec. 12 special election couldn’t be more different. While Moore is accused of preying on young girls, Jones prosecuted the white supremacists who killed four black girls in a notorious church bombing. But, the Democratic party has not won a U.S. Senate race in Alabama in 25 years.

    The outcome of next month’s crucial election for the U.S. Senate in Alabama is rooted in the past.

    News coverage of the Dec 12 election , which could determine the political balance of power, is overshadowed by allegations that the Republican candidate, former judge Roy Moore, acted inappropriately towards young girls decades ago.

    Largely overlooked in the race is Moore’s Democratic rival, former U.S. Attorney Doug Jones, whose main claim to fame is his role in the conviction of two white supremacists for a 1963 church bombing that killed four young black girls.

    “Both have experience with young children,” said Donald Watkins, a wealthy black businessman and former attorney who knows both men. “Doug Jones avenged the death of four little girls in a church bombing, on the other hand Roy Moore was preying on young girls, stalking them and molesting them.”

  17. rikyrah says:

    Richard Saunders‏ @BoycottUtah
    The “Women of Alabama” then spitting on black children going to school. The “Women of Alabama” voicing their support for the perv Roy Moore. Not much has changed…maybe better dressed, put on a few pounds, most today have air conditioners in their homes.

  18. rikyrah says:

    President Trump Is Making His Only African-American Judicial Nominee Move For Brett Talley

    On May 8, 2017, President Trump announced that he intended to nominate Magistrate Judge Terry Moorer to serve as a district judge in the Middle District of Alabama. This nomination would have been President Trump’s first African-American judicial nominee, and it’s likely no coincidence that it was announced on the same day as Kevin Newsom for an Alabama-based seat on the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. Alabama has never had an African-American circuit court judge, and Newsom replaced President Obama’s African-American nominee, Judge Abdul Kallon, whom Senators Sessions and Shelby had blocked.

    By August, Newsom had been confirmed, but Judge Moorer still had not even been officially nominated. In fact, all nine of the other judicial nominees announced on May 8 had been nominated within a month, but for four months, there was still no sign of Judge Moorer.

    On Sept. 8, President Trump announced a little-noticed bait and switch: he replaced Judge Moorer’s original nomination with Brett Talley, and Judge Moorer’s final, official nomination forced him to move to the Southern District of Alabama.

    At first blush, it seemed like the more-qualified African-American nominee was simply shoved aside for a less-qualified white man.

    No SEEMS about it. This is what happened.

  19. Can y’all see now why these women were afraid to come forward about Roy Moore? He’s a bully. Just look at his actions now?

  20. rikyrah says:

    Stone Cold Truth, a Twitter account linked to Roger Stone, has been suspended.— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 18, 2017

  21. rikyrah says:

    The cover of this week’s @NewYorker. “Nowhere to Hide” by Barry Blitt.

    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 20, 2017

  22. rikyrah says:

    This Is Just How Badly Scott Walker Has Decimated Public Schools in Wisconsin

    A new study highlights the dire teacher shortage created by Walker’s anti-union law.
    NOV. 20, 2017 6:00 AM

    In the six years since Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker signed the union-busting Act 10, which curtailed collective bargaining rights for public employees, the state’s labor movement has been decimated. Wisconsin was once a leader in organized labor, but its share of workers belonging to unions plummeted from 14.2 percent in 2010 to 8.1 percent in 2016. In 2015, the state’s unionization rate dropped below the national average for the first time.

    Now a new study highlights the unintended consequences of Act 10, which has proven catastrophic for Wisconsin’s public schools.

    As I explained in the March/April issue of Mother Jones, Wisconsin’s attack on public sector unions has created a shortage of public school teachers, as teachers retire and look for jobs in other states and fewer young people embark on careers in education:
    “Rather than encouraging the best and the brightest to become teachers and remain in the field throughout their career,” Wisconsin state Senate Democratic Leader Jennifer Shilling said during a press call on Wednesday, “Act 10 has demonized and devalued the teaching profession and driven away many good teachers. These serious implications have left schools across Wisconsin struggling to fill teaching positions.”

  23. rikyrah says:

    From FORBES…


    FORBES: GOP Tax Bill Is The End Of All Economic Sanity In Washington

    . . . If it’s enacted, the GOP tax cut now working its way through Congress will be the start of a decades-long economic policy disaster unlike any other that has occurred in American history.

    There’s no economic justification whatsoever for a tax cut at this time. U.S. GDP is growing, unemployment is close to 4 percent (below what is commonly considered “full employment”, corporate profits are at record levels and stock markets are soaring. It makes no sense to add any federal government-induced stimulus to all this private sector-caused economic activity, let alone a tax cut as big as this one.

    This is actually the ideal time for Washington to be doing the opposite. But by damning the economic torpedoes and moving full-speed ahead, House and Senate Republicans and the Trump White House are setting up the U.S. for the modern-day analog of the inflation-producing guns-and-butter economic policy of the Vietnam era. The GOP tax bill will increase the federal deficit by $2 trillion or more over the next decade (the official estimates of $1.5 trillion hide the real amount with a witches brew of gimmicks and outright lies) that, unless all the rules have changed, is virtually certain to result in inflation and much higher interest rates than would otherwise occur.

    The GOP’s insanity is compounded by its moving ahead without having any idea of what this policy will actually do to the economy. The debates in the Ways and Means and Senate Finance Committees and on the House floor all took place before the Congressional Budget Office’s analysis and, if it really exists, the constantly-promised-but-never-seen report from the Treasury on the economics of this tax bill. . . .

  24. rikyrah says:

    Trump now says he ‘should have left’ Americans in Chinese jail
    11/20/17 08:42 AM
    By Steve Benen


    Stuart Stevens, a Republican strategist and former aide to Mitt Romney, responded to this story by explaining, “This is on emotional spectrum of a troubled child. Elected officials don’t help the taxpayers they work for because they expect praise. They do it because it’s their job.”

    I realize that this president often struggles to understand the nuances of his responsibilities, but this isn’t especially complicated: for generations, U.S. officials have worked on behalf of Americans, not for glory or public displays of gratitude, but out of a desire to serve.

    Trump did something worthwhile by taking steps to free those three Americans from a Chinese jail – in other words, the president did his job – but now he regrets it because one of those American’s fathers hurt his feelings.

    Yes, this makes Trump appear alarmingly small. And yes, this reminds us that the president has the temperament of a spoiled child. But this incident also makes clear that in Trump’s mind, public service is a vanity exercise. He’s willing to do the right thing, but only if he’s rewarded with gratitude and praise.

    Without them, Trump is inclined to ignore Americans’ needs. Indeed, in his mind, the president’s work is inherently transactional: he’ll protect our interests, and in exchange, we’ll acknowledge his greatness and satisfy his ego. Those who fail to live up to their end of the bargain, evidently, are unworthy of his efforts.

    There is nothing like this in the American tradition.

  25. rikyrah says:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
    Follow Follow @realDonaldTrump
    Marshawn Lynch of the NFL’s Oakland Raiders stands for the Mexican Anthem and sits down to boos for our National Anthem. Great disrespect! Next time NFL should suspend him for remainder of season. Attendance and ratings way down.

  26. rikyrah says:

    Trump Panama building a magnet for dirty money laundering
    Richard Engel, NBC News chief foreign correspondent, looks at how a Panama building project bearing the Trump name became a hot spot for illegal money world wide to be cleaned through real estate transactions.

  27. rikyrah says:

    Trump makes position on foreign bribery clear
    Richard Engel shares a CNBC clip of Donald Trump expressing his displeasure with a law that forbids American businesses from bribing foreign officials.

  28. rikyrah says:

    Trump comfort with foreign corruption hurts US global reputation
    Sarah Chayes, author of “Thieves of State,” talks with Richard Engel about how Donald Trump’s tolerance of corruption in other countries reflects back on the reputation of the United States, and why Donald Trump is in violation of the Foreign Emoluments Clause of the Constitution.

  29. rikyrah says:

    Many Trump deals abroad come with conflicts
    Richard Engel, NBC News chief foreign correspondent, reports on some of the unsavory circumstances and outright conflicts of interest in some of Donald Trump’s international business ventures.

  30. rikyrah says:

    Trump may be at legal risk for crimes at Trump-named building
    Arlo Devlin-Brown, former public corruption unit chief for the Southern District of New York, talks with Richard Engel about whether Donald Trump is at any legal risk for illegal things that happen through a building to which he has sold his name.

  31. rikyrah says:

    Echoes of Trump in corrupt former Panama president Martinelli
    Richard Engel, NBC News chief foreign correspondent, reports on similarities between Donald Trump and his friend, former Panama president Ricardo Martinelli, who is being held in a federal detention facility in Miami fighting extradition back to Panama.

  32. rikyrah says:

    Mueller’s latest request suggests trouble for Trump’s White House
    11/20/17 08:00 AM
    By Steve Benen


    Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team investigating whether President Donald Trump sought to obstruct a federal inquiry into connections between his presidential campaign and Russian operatives has now directed the Justice Department to turn over a broad array of documents, ABC News has learned.

    In particular, Mueller’s investigators are keen to obtain emails related to the firing of FBI Director James Comey and the earlier decision of Attorney General Jeff Sessions to recuse himself from the entire matter, according to a source who has not seen the specific request but was told about it.

    ABC News’ report, which hasn’t been independently verified by MSNBC or NBC News, added that this line of inquiry “marks the special counsel’s first records request to the Justice Department, and it means Mueller is now demanding documents from the department overseeing his investigation.”

    The piece went on to say, “The latest move suggests the Special Counsel is still actively digging into, among other matters, whether Trump or any other administration official improperly tried to influence an ongoing investigation.”

  33. rikyrah says:

    The Melting of Republican Snowflakes
    by D.R. Tucker November 19, 2017

    That sound you hear is the playing of the world’s tiniest violin for Republican Governors who didn’t have enough sense to walk away from the party once Donald Trump secured the GOP presidential nomination in 2016, and who now fear the consequences:

    For nearly a decade, meetings of the Republican Governors Association were buoyant, even giddy, affairs, as the party — lifted by enormous political donations and a backlash against the Obama administration — achieved overwhelming control of state governments.

    But a sense of foreboding hung over the group’s gathering in Austin this past week, as President Trump’s unpopularity and Republicans’ unexpectedly drastic losses in elections earlier this month in Virginia, New Jersey and suburbs from Philadelphia to Seattle raised the specter of a political reckoning in 2018.

    “I do think Virginia was a wake-up call,” said Gov. Bill Haslam of Tennessee, who took over here as chairman of the governors association. “There’s a pretty strong message there. When Republicans lose white married women, that’s a strong message.”

  34. rikyrah says:

    Technical Foul: Trump Goes There Again
    by D.R. Tucker November 19, 2017


    Now that the three basketball players are out of China and saved from years in jail, LaVar Ball, the father of LiAngelo, is unaccepting of what I did for his son and that shoplifting is no big deal. I should have left them in jail!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 19, 2017


    Trump had the option of simply ignoring LaVar Ball’s dismissal of his role in freeing the UCLA players; he wouldn’t be the first person to simply ignore Ball. Trump chose otherwise, for fairly obvious political reasons: he figured that attacking supposedly ungrateful African-Americans would maintain his popularity among his most devoted followers. Ball is being attacked for the same reason Colin Kaepernick was attacked by the 45th President: he’s a convenient target.

    Trump’s base undoubtedly thinks he “should have left them in jail.” Their hatred fuels Trump; their resentment is the force that gives him power. Imagine dealing with three (or even seven?) more years of this. Imagine hearing similar rhetoric from Roy Moore if (when?) he wins the US Senate seat Jeff Sessions vacated.

    This Thursday, give thanks for the anti-Trump resistance movement. It’s hard to imagine our country remaining stable without it.

  35. rikyrah says:

    Ann Coulter did something ridiculous again.

    The heifer Ann Coulter is describing a woman who represented America and medaled in the Olympics. You’re pathetic, Ann.

    — Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) November 20, 2017

  36. rikyrah says:

    The Obamas on Diana Ross: “When we heard Diana Ross was getting the lifetime achievement award, our first reaction was, she doesn’t have it yet?” #AMAs

    — Michael Blackmon (@blackmon) November 20, 2017

  37. rikyrah says:

    Wow. That’s some honesty– the White House admitting that electing a pedophile is worth it to pass tax cuts. 😟

    — Andy Slavitt (@ASlavitt) November 20, 2017

  38. rikyrah says:

    The super rich don’t need another tax cut — @NickHanauer

    — ATTN: (@attn) November 19, 2017

  39. rikyrah says:


    If Rs wanted to cut taxes for the middle class, they could go ahead and *cut taxes for the middle class,* while minimizing the huge giveaway to their corporate donors.

    But Rs have publicly admitted their donors must be rewarded:

    — Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) November 20, 2017

  40. rikyrah says:

    Kyle Griffin‏Verified account
    Follow Follow @kylegriffin1
    Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, was informed that a conservative candidate for the Ohio legislature had been accused of fondling an 18-year-old male college student. He said would handle the situation. It appears he did nothing.

  41. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄😄😄

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