Wednesday Open Thread | Why the SpyGirl Scandal is Simple

There are those who say that the ‘Collusion’ between the Trump Campaign and Russia is ‘too hard ‘ to explain.

It’s not Collusion.
It’s Conspiracy Against the United States.
And, it’s not complicated at all. But, I’ll humor you for the moment.

Spy Girl, aka Marina Butina, isn’t complicated AT ALL.

It involves:
a) A Russian Spy
b) Spreading Russian Money
c) To buy Russian Influence

Across the Conservative Spectrum…
Right-Wing Politicians of All Stripes

She was 29 years old. And, nobody asked how a 29 year old got access to the kind of money that she was throwing around?




A gun’s right’s movement in RUSSIA?
IN WHAT WORLD, did that even make sense, knowing what we know about Putin?
Never EVER passed the smell test. Stevie Wonder could see that it was nothing but a FRONT to launder money.

So, while the Special Counsel’s indictments have been full of Russian names….


Oh, sweetheart….

The names that will be coming up with her are going to be a long list of AMERICANS.

AM Joy 7/21/18
Indicted Russian national Maria Butina allegedly sought to…
Maria Butina, a Russian gun activist with ties to the NRA and the religious right, has been charged with being a foreign agent for her alleged role in a Russian campaign to influence American politics. Joy Reid and her panel discuss.

There’s a reason why the GOP has abdicated it’s role as the Legislative Branch…because they are all caught up in Russia too. While we don’t know about the 2016 Elections, we know, that if it’s detwemined that Russia ILLEGALLY FUNNELED MONEY to the NRA….that means that whoever received that money -GOT ILLEGAL MONIES.

Well, we talk about the NRA and donations…

So, they are ALL ON THE HOOK.

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142 Responses to Wednesday Open Thread | Why the SpyGirl Scandal is Simple

    • majiir says:

      What I like most about the latest Donald Trump star vandal is that he did the deed and then called the cops on himself.

  1. eliihass says:

    I was under the impression that the European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker is not actually authorized to make trade concessions..

    How is the treasonous buffoon declaring ‘a deal’..

  2. eliihass says:

    Chris Murphy just lost points with me..

    Pompeo is jerking him around, disrespects the last President of his party while he’s at it, and though Chris Murphy attempts a weak push-back, just ends up offering an olive branch and over-praising the self-aggrandizing tea party idiot who just dissed his party’s historic president..

  3. eliihass says:

    Part of our winning strategy for the midterms and going forward, ought to be about putting out an all around better – stronger, smarter, well-informed, quick on their feet, wily, fearless, articulate, compelling slew of Democratic strategists who can hold their own on network t.v… and are more about truth-telling, and less about going along to get along with the network/host and the usually ruthless repug strategists …to keep the tv gig …

    Most of those currently passing off as ‘Dem strategists’ on tv at the moment, seriously suck..

    So unimpressive – and unconvincing..

  4. eliihass says:


    New word for the buffoon..

    • Ametia says:

      Definition of retaliatory tariff
      : a tariff imposed as a means of coercing a foreign government and intended to compel the grant of reciprocity privileges

      • eliihass says:

        It was how he kept trying to properly pronounce the word, but kept failing..

        ‘Li’ instead of ‘Lia’..

        With biting emphasis on the ‘tory’

        And how Phillip Rucker of WaPo immediately repeated the word, stressing its correct pronunciation…

        It was funny..

        You can always tell when the treasonous buffoon has learnt a new word or phrase…

        Or when he’s trying to mimic Mattis’, or Kelly, and more recently, Bolton’s cadence or speech pattern… or lifting whole phrases he just learnt from them …to try to sound ‘informed’.. even though it’s obvious he hasn’t read a briefing book, but lazily relies on what he’s heard in meetings, and what he thinks sounds ‘smart’..

  5. rikyrah says:

    Another Putin critic- dead in Paris at the age of 31.

    ” suicide”.

    Uh huh
    Uh huh

  6. #Pompeo is evading answering the questions. He’s on the defensive and lying his @ss off…..

  7. rikyrah says:

    I’m excited to share the cover of my book, Finding My Voice, which will publish next April. You can learn more here:

    — Valerie Jarrett (@ValerieJarrett) July 25, 2018

    • eliihass says:

      Sorry fam, but I’ve got to say that I’ve never seen anything quite like this..

      This has to be the first time in history that everyone in an administration – from dog-catcher to hand wipe carrier, has published a book..

      And most, even before the 2 main principals .. the President and First Lady, have published their memoirs – as is tradition…

      Heck, the photographer is already cashing in on a second book

      It’s nuts..

      As my little sweet polite genius niece said to me when I babysat her that one time when she was all of 3years old – and I’d neglected to properly utilize the sectioned child plate…and had mixed up her veggies instead of serving them separately in the sectioned of spaces… She kept staring at her plate and when I asked why she wasn’t eating, politely replied: Aunty, there are too many people in my food…

      Used to be that it was just the Secretary of State who’d publish a book – after the president published his…

      And never in competition for attention and focus – or listed at a higher sale price point than the President and First Lady’s…

      This endlessly ridiculous set-up where everyone wants what the President and First Lady are getting, is precisely part of the insidious and regressive mindset that did untold damage, caused much disrespect, and left so much to be desired imho, in those 8 years and subsequently..

      Got to a point where staff were acting as if they were doing the principals a favor… or as if they deserved to get whatever the president’s wife got …

      It’s funny how some of the permanent staff who often treated the Obamas as if they were doing them a favor, are now muzzled and quaking in deference …and acting all slavish and beholden to a treasonous buffoon and his imported 3rd wife.. And haven’t been seen prancing around the White House grounds since …

      • Ametia says:

        I hear you, eliihaas. There are a myriad of reasons why folks are writing books and going on tour.

        I’m ok with Valerie writing her book & promoting it. I think we need more folks writing and telling their stories.

        Now if the books don’t make the NYT best sellers list, that’s the way it goes, but write your story.

        Nobody can take that away from us.

  8. rikyrah says:

    Dolt45 isn’t going to have his handler over for tea at the WH this Fall.

  9. Ametia says:

    The Latest on Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s testimony to Congress (all times local):

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says the United States will never recognize Russia’s annexation of Crimea and will continue to insist that Ukraine’s territorial integrity be restored.

    In a statement released Wednesday by the State Department, Pompeo said the U.S. will hold to its long-standing principle of refusing to recognize Kremlin claims of sovereignty over territory seized by force, in violation of international law. He called for Russia to respect principles and “end its occupation of Crimea.”

  10. LIVE: Pompeo testifies before Senate Foreign Relations Committee

  11. eliihass says:

    Re: news of daughter-wife shutting down her clothing line..

    Dexter: So, where are “style” conscious mid-market white supremacist ladies supposed to get their clothes now?

    Ms. Tea Leaves: Big Lots.

  12. eliihass says:

    That John Podhoretz is one of those Smerconish type (not so) slick ‘undercover’ bros of the treasonous buffoon …

    And Morning Joe and Katy Tur keep insisting on wheeling him in to muddy up stuff on the treasonous buffoon’s behalf..

    • Ametia says:

      And remember to watch out when they have Eugene Robinson on, stammering & stuttering. He really should stick to his Pulitzer prize-winning op-eds in WAPO.

      • eliihass says:

        Eugene is smart, knows the truth, but is far too cowardly …and too beholden …and desperate to keep his gig..

        You know when he’s been authorized to speak…and when he’s struggling to not speak the truth he knows well, because Scarborough has preemptively instructed them on the talking points of the day.. and he can’t go against that..

        It’s painful and sad to watch Eugene sometimes..

  13. Our lovable little Carson is here.

  14. Ametia says:
  15. rikyrah says:

    New Quinnipiac poll show a double-digit Democratic lead on the generic congressional ballot.

    Voters prefer a D House over a R House by a margin of 51-39%.

    WOMEN support Ds 57-32%.

    MEN support Rs 46–44%.

    — Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) July 25, 2018

  16. rikyrah says:

    Dershowitz: They knew a lot of people were going to come forward at the end of the campaign demanding money. So it made sense to set up a corporation to handle all the payments. “That happens all the time.”— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 25, 2018

  17. Ametia says:

    WELL DUH????!!1

  18. Ametia says:

    UH HUH
    UH HUH

    • Ametia says:

      The desperation is at fever pitch. 45 IS GOING DOWN, along with the shady GOP.

      • eliihass says:

        Hey my Sis, I can’t wait for this insanity to be finally over..

        Who woulda thunk Lanny Davis would finally stop getting on my nerves and put his endlessly wily and original master of the gaslighting behind to good patriotic use..

        I’m sure as heck rooting hard for him and our new ‘bro’ Mikey Cohen.. LOL..

        The treasonous buffoon and his band of complicits and enablers and alt-right cohort have finally met their gaslighting match..

        But you know these treasonous Vlad-owned crooks were never going to go peacefully Sis..

        The plan was always to blow things up if and when Mueller came …and as they’re dragged kicking and screaming out of the People’s House…

        And the longer they hold that highest space in the land captive, the more they know their way around the weapons of that office ..and what is in the wrong hands, the endless revenge resources that come with it …And the more they enjoy, get boosted and puffed up, and get carried away with the grand honorifics, pomp, pageantry, circumstance and endless perks and extensive luxury freebies ..the harder it’ll be to extricate them and their grubby, grifting, greedy, corrupt, treasonous claws from that once sacred space and office..

        We’re going to have to have a right and proper cleansing and exorcism of what’s left of that space and D.C as a whole, and a full year of prayer and fasting …when we finally remove these traitorous crooks..

        We’ll be needing some actual holy representatives of God… not any evangelicals affiliates or priests who ever played footsie with these treasonous demons …

      • Ametia says:

        Sure you right, Sis. Lanny’s a Clintonite. REVENGE is going to be that much sweeter.

    • eliihass says:

      They sit in their alt-right bubbles and spout off…

      Until their cowardly behinds are scooped up …

      It’s only a matter of time before this weaselly, ‘special’ water-peddling, drug-addled fat-f*ck has Karma deal with him finally..

      • Ametia says:

        Hello Sis. All of them need a swift kick off planet earth. But their aim is to burn it down before they get herded off.

        Don’t want those brown * black folks to have SHIT.

  19. rikyrah says:

    Butina case emblematic of multi-faceted Putin strategy against US

    While Mariia Butina faces American due process, the crime of which she is accused is not a rarity given Vladimir Putin’s regard for the United States as an enemy and his desire to gain any upper hand he can. Michael McFaul, Chuck Rosenberg, and Matt Axelrod discuss with Rachel Maddow.

  20. rikyrah says:

    Courts a stopgap to Trump’s failings on loyalty to Americans

    Michael McFaul, Chuck Rosenberg, and Matt Axelrod talk with Rachel Maddow about whether Donald Trump could unilaterally hand over American citizens at Vladimir Putin’s request.

  21. rikyrah says:

    Cohen Trump tape offers bevy of new leads for investigators

    Rachel Maddow shares the CNN broadcast of an audio tape of Donald Trump speaking with Michael Cohen ostensibly about paying a former Playboy Playmate who says she had an affair with Trump, and discusses with a distinguished panel. CNN says the tape came from Cohen’s lawyer Lanny Davis.

  22. rikyrah says:

    Trump White House cuts Putin support for Trump out of transcript

    Rachel Maddow shows how the White House transcript and video of the Trump Putin press conference in Helsinki has been edited to remove the question asking Putin if he wanted Trump to win the election, part of a broader campaign of information warfare the Trump administration is waging with Russia against the American people.

    • Ametia says:

      These MOFOs are desperate. The scare tactics WILL.NOT.WORK.

      Ya’ll are GOING DOWN

      • majiir says:

        What Rep. Waters’ opponents don’t understand is that she has been battle-tested and hardened when it comes to dealing with light-weights like them. They hate that she’s not afraid of them. I thought it was stupid of whoever sent the package to write “arsenic” on the outside. What dummy sends what is supposed to be a package containing a deadly substance to someone and writes what is supposed to be inside of it on the outside of the package? These people remind me of something my dearly departed parents used to say about nuts like this, “Their brain’s elevator doesn’t go all the way to the top.”

  23. rikyrah says:

    #TheResistance needs to take a bow. The American people are finally coming around to what we have known (and what has been painfully obvious) for a long time: This president is compromised by Russia.

    Tell the @GOP to #ImpeachTrump here –

    — Democratic Coalition (@TheDemCoalition) July 24, 2018

  24. rikyrah says:

    Also from new Q-poll:

    75% say Russian sabotage of election is a very (53) or somewhat (22) important issue.

    59% disapprove of Trump’s handling of Putin.

    55% say Mueller probe is “fair.”

    54% say probe of Trump/Russia collusion is “legitimate.”

    Trump is losing every argument.

    — Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) July 24, 2018

  25. rikyrah says:

    New Q-poll:

    Trump’s approval slides to 38-58.

    51% say Trump has “weakened” America’s position in the world.

    By 53-42, voters say Trump wants to do what’s best for himself, not USA.

    Voters trust intel agencies over Trump to tell them the truth, 63-25.

    — Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) July 24, 2018

  26. rikyrah says:

    Trump tells supporters, ‘What you’re seeing … is not what’s happening’
    07/25/18 08:40 AM
    By Steve Benen

    About a month ago, Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) complained that too much of today’s Republican Party has found itself in “a cult-like situation as it relates to a president.” Soon after, Donald Trump Jr. appeared on Fox News and was surprisingly reluctant to reject the criticism.
    “You know what,” the president’s adult son said, “if it’s a cult, it’s because they like what my father is doing.”

    One of the problems with cults, however, is that its leaders tell its followers to ignore external sources of information – because in order for the scheme to work, the leaders must be seen as the sole authority for truth.

    All of this came to mind watching Donald Trump Sr. in Kansas City yesterday, where the president addressed this year’s national convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW). Officially, this was an official White House event, but practically, it wasn’t long before Trump turned the gathering into another partisan campaign rally, which included this unscripted declaration:

    “Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.”

  27. rikyrah says:

    A 17-year-old Alabama boy who joined the youth-led gun reform movement after the Parkland massacre is in the ICU after a bullet came through his home and struck him while he slept early Friday.

    — The Trace (@teamtrace) July 24, 2018

  28. rikyrah says:

    Not only is all that you state is true, but more fundamentally the 2016 National Election was compromised.


    1 #IllegitimatePOTUS;

    2 #IllegitimateVP;

    3 #Illegitimate115thCongress;

    4 #IllegitimateJudicialAppointments;

    5 #IllegitimateLegislation. #TrumpRussia

    — Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) July 25, 2018

  29. rikyrah says:

    “Ms. Unterberg said she had chosen to keep her identity secret so that her art would be evaluated on its own terms – even her grown grandchildren were unaware she was behind the grant.”

    — Ava DuVernay (@ava) July 24, 2018

  30. rikyrah says:

    If you’re trying to make sense of just what Vladimir Putin has on Donald Trump, do not miss this interview with retired CIA Clandestine Service Officer @john_sipher .

    — Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 24, 2018

  31. rikyrah says:

    CNN’s Chris Cillizza breaks down President Donald Trump’s pattern of distraction techniques when he is under pressure

    — CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) July 25, 2018

  32. rikyrah says:

    Peanut asked me for show recommendations last night.
    So, I made her promise that she’d watch three shows before making a decision to continue with…

    Here’s to hoping :)

  33. rikyrah says:

    White House transcript of Trump/Putin presser has edited out the question asking Vladimir Putin if he wanted Donald Trump to win the election.

    — Maddow Blog (@MaddowBlog) July 25, 2018

  34. rikyrah says:

    Experts who examined the Kremlin campaign—which included stealing Democratic emails, spreading propaganda online and hacking voter rolls—concluded that it did affect an extremely close election decided by fewer than 80,000 votes in three states. Me:

    — Max Boot (@MaxBoot) July 25, 2018

  35. rikyrah says:

    All Democrats need the attitude of Ted Lieu, Maxine Waters and Senator Mazie from Hawaii.


    This tape is more evidence that @realDonaldTrump himself was directly involved in a campaign finance law violation. And because the amount exceeded $25,000, it would be punishable as a felony. #TrumpTapes also show Rudy Giuliani lied. But that’s not news.

    — Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) July 25, 2018

  36. rikyrah says:

    I love these kinds of stories.


    Mystery behind decades-old family photos finally solved

    Kristie Baeumert recently found a vintage slide projector at Goodwill, along with a family’s old photos. It became her mission to find the people in the images. CBS News correspondent Mark Strassmann has an update to the mystery.

  37. rikyrah says:

    This is the very definition of bringing receipts

    Jake (@Care2much18) Tweeted:
    Maggie Haberman:

    Where are people getting the impression she is an access journalist and Trump shill?


    Let’s take a closer look.

  38. rikyrah says:

    Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) Tweeted:
    “Butina courted conservatives because she recognized her new friends were engaged in a racial struggle and culture war so intense that they might be open, even eager, to align with Putin to defeat their real enemy: fellow Americans.”

  39. rikyrah says:

    Greg Sarafan, Esq (@GSarafan) Tweeted:
    Late on Friday, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin quietly announced that the Trump administration was considering the possibility of removing sanctions from an aluminum company, Rusal, which is owned by Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska.

  40. rikyrah says:

    Forever, because they are compromised

    Washington Post (@washingtonpost) Tweeted:
    Opinion: How long will Republicans debase themselves to Trump’s petty whims?

    • eliihass says:

      After a massive outcry..

      They keep sending out feelers to see what and how much they can get away with…and if anyone’s paying attention..

    • eliihass says:

      “…I like Michael …he has a lovely family.. I was not a client… although I did ask him a legal question… … we used to talk privately … I don’t know what these 11 other tapes are about…”


  41. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄😄😄

    • Ametia says:

      Happy HUMP Day, Everyone!

      great threads this week, Rikyrah. That Russian Spy GIRL used her poon-tang, $$$ & racism to intice the GOP

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