Open Thread | The Attacks on the Vice President Are Obvious

One of the things that I have tried to do is learn from my mistakes. I will admit that one mistake that I made politically in 2016 was UNDERESTIMATING the misogyny against Hillary Clinton. I had factored in the misogyny against her, but, I honestly didn’t realize the DEPTH of it until the post-mortem of the 2016 election.

I, like other Hillary supporters, realize that allowing the misogyny to go unchecked and unchallenged was a mistake. Meeting in secret Hillary groups, and allowing the misogynists free reign of social media was a mistake.

Defending, but, not full throttle defending of the Forever FLOTUS was also a mistake.

So, like others, we are determined to not make the same mistake with other high profile Black women. How, when we see it now, we call it out, and don’t let it be unchallenged.

Also, acknowledging the complete resentment, in certain quarters, that Black people are the BASE of the Democratic Party.

This crazy nonsense about President Biden not running in 2024. It’s utter craziness.

But, make no mistake, the MSM is in the tank for the GOP. They are both siding everything.

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20 Responses to Open Thread | The Attacks on the Vice President Are Obvious

  1. eliihass says:

    The eternally unprotected and undefended fully-Black historic FLOTUS who’s made it clear that she’s not interested, is the least of the problem for the desperate ‘influencer’ astroturf Twitter foot soldiers who are back to trying to preemptively strong-arm out of the running, any and all perceived competition once again clear the field for their person ..who try as they may, clearly still can’t organically cut it ..without endlessly tiresome coercive shenanigans, artificial fluffing up and gaslighting..

    How utterly and curiously bizarre this, from the ‘protect black women’ crowd who’ve for years, mostly turned a blind eye, mostly ignored.. at best, merely rolled their eyes, yawned (and in several documented instances, even initiated, sanctioned, sniggered, joined in, cheered on) the extremely pervasive, still very much ongoing, inescapable, impossible to miss virulent attacks and racist dehumanization of the fully Black historic FLOTUS..

    How utterly, utterly bizarre that the ‘protect black women’ ‘sistahood’ and their faux ‘allies’ are infinitely more incensed, extremely agitated, raucous, fiery and instantly organized in their vigorous pushback ..not against the blatant attacks and continued dehumanization of the fully Black historic FLOTUS.. but at any positive mention of her, and (though she’s not interested) the fact that she is in fact preferred by many over their person..

    Instructive, this rapid, zealous, organized pushback via ‘amplified’ ‘outrage’ tweets from the faux ‘protect black women’ crowd ..not in defense of the historic Black FLOTUS in the face of still ongoing blatant virulent dehumanization of her …but, at the positive embrace of her.. hmmmm..🤔

    How reprehensible that those who purportedly claim to ‘protect black women’ raucously take umbrage, and choose to publicly berate and angry tweet their rebuke of any positive embrace of the fully Black historic FLOTUS as choice of so many.. even as they insidiously and deviously place the fully Black historic FLOTUS in harm’s way via the toxic twitter public square …knowingly and maliciously inviting and giving permission and cover to those who’d abuse and disparage her, the forum to do so..

    If it weren’t so desperately and disgustingly insidious and dangerously bizarre, it’d all be rather amusing..

    For 15 years, the fully-black historic FLOTUS has been, and continues to be subjected to actual, unprecedented death threats.. continues to be so racially dehumanized in full view.. so mercilessly brutalized in ways that would’ve brought most to their knees..

    In all these years, not a single write-up or ‘deep dives’ by the likes of bot sentinel et al, can be found …no ‘protect black women’ army expressing outrage or concern for the safety of this fully-black woman directly descended of slaves.. even as she’s fended for herself and stoically gone on and about her business.. sans hive, sans squad..

    She’s always been expected to suck it up, bite her tongue, grin and bear it.. and was even warned by some of those who now scream ‘protect black women’ ..not to stir things up so as not to ‘ruin’ things for her politician President-hubby.. many of these same now faux-outraged who curiously, immediately rallied to her husband’s defense, fighting twitter battles on his behalf.. had no qualms throwing his fully-black wife to the wolves.. ignoring attacks on her ..except when invoked merely as fodder.. to make some point, and only to be explicitly exploited for some random agenda and hustle du jour.. or in defense of others.. but never ever for her..

    There were zero articles, zero think-pieces, zero investigations on who’s behind these attacks .. there’s been hardly any outrage, pushback or rallying to her defense.. as is evidenced by the fact that today, the she’s a ‘man’, ‘tranny’ attacks on her, not only pervade Twitter, Youtube, and other (social) media, unabated, but have now invaded and fully settled in the mainstream.. with zero pushback, still..

    It is the real scars, real pain, real trauma of the unelected and never-coddled fully black historic FLOTUS’ (and her 2 young daughters,) that’s very much still being brazenly exploited ..still being slyly invoked and wielded by those who’ve hardly ever bothered to defend or protect the fully Black FLOTUS through the years.. And no, gratuitous fleeting mentions of the dehumanizing attacks the historic Black FLOTUS has endured, is absolutely not the same thing as actually dedicatedly pushing back hard against said attacks..

    She continues to be undefended, exploited, thrown to the wolves.. to provide a shield for the laughably selective and phony ‘protect black women’ astroturf maneuvers on behalf of their handpicked faves and very particular iteration of ‘black’ women.. to inoculate against innocuous criticism ..routine for those in, and actively seeking elected office ..and to artificially force-feed, to boost the political fortunes, shamelessly secure positions of power for their faves whose embellished resumes have been entirely, courtesy of routinely having the field cleared for them and undeservedly propped up the ladder of electoral office through the years in a deep blue state, by party poobahs and affluential mega donors..

    • eliihass says:

      Sure, misogyny/sexism is and continues to be a problem .. but this insidious selective wielding of it in defense of some but not of others.. and only to silence and put critics of one’s ‘faves’ on the defensive, only minimizes the grievous harm of real misogyny..

      Speaking of grievous harm.. please, don’t get me started on the years of abuse, active undermining and unending grievous harm directed at the historic fully-Black FLOTUS and her elected husband, by many supposedly ‘on our side’ ..including Hillary, Bill and their malignant PUMA coalition that featured a slew of black is-we-sick-massa acolytes (predating black MAGA hustlers) .. many of these same toxic PUMAs and a myriad of Clinton black acolytes, now power the hive.. and try as they have with all manner of revisionism and ever unfolding tricks and gaslighting tactics, still can’t mask their toxicity and outright resentment of the historic fully Black FLOTUS, that’s never gone away.. albeit ever so briefly suspended in latter 2016.. even as they’ve amusingly seemingly been more ‘embracing’ of her elected President hubby.. exploiting him for the purposes of boosting their flailing fave..

      That some of us choose to bite our tongues especially as the country faces even greater attacks that threaten our democracy, does not mean that we’ve forgotten..

      Patronage of affluential benefactors, party-poobah favoritism, behind the scenes arm-twisting, backroom ‘dealmaking’ and loud twitter astroturf ‘influencers’ pretending to speak for and making demands on behalf of large demographics, will get mediocre careerist politicians the requisite, mostly embellished resume and propping up the political ladder.. via all sorts of advantages and ‘wins’ in field-cleared and hardly contested deep Blue local and state races.. and eventually, undeserved top ticket gigs.. at the expense of far more capable candidates.. and party and country of course..

      Easier of course to pull off on local and state level where party bigwigs and mega donors reign supreme.. and money and threats immediately clear the field …and party voters are left with no choice but to get behind the ‘party pick’.. much, much harder to pull off that forced coalescing trick on a national scale.. except when the opposition is a walking national security threat ..a highly-compromised, wholly-owned foreign asset con man posing serious threats to our democracy and the well-being of its citizens..and the world..

      Important to remind fam that for all the now raucous cries from the ‘protect black women’ faux ‘sistahood’ ..this gig was gotten by doing a hatchet job on the shortlisted competition.. This very same raucous cohort dropped oppo-research, viciously sabotaged far more qualified and capable women like Susan Rice, Karen Bass et al.. Women who are now relegated to bit roles ..forced to pretend not to notice what was done to them.. even as the very same faux ‘protect black women’ cohort scramble to assign and pretend to help secure far less impressive gigs for these actually supremely qualified and capable black women..

  2. rikyrah says:


    The Associated Press (@AP) tweeted at 7:10 PM on Mon, Jun 20, 2022:
    A Nobel Peace Prize that Russian journalist Dmitry Muratov was auctioning off to raise money for Ukrainian child refugees has sold for $103.5 million. Before this, the most ever paid for a Nobel Prize medal was $4.76 million.

  3. rikyrah says:

    Nothing but truth

    🐝⚖️ Shapiro/Davis for PA Gov/PA Lt. Gov (@Needle_of_Arya) tweeted at 6:52 AM on Tue, Jun 21, 2022:
    The “both sides” people who are out here begging us to not judge Trump voters and call them all bigots and racist and ignorant, don’t have an answer as to how speak to the ones who supposedly weren’t motivated to vote for him due to bigotry and racism.

  4. rikyrah says:

    Chris Meagher (@chrismeagher46) tweeted at 6:28 AM on Tue, Jun 21, 2022:
    “President Joe Biden has signed off on giving federal wildland firefighters a hefty raise for the next two fiscal years, a move that affects more than 16,000 firefighters and comes as much of the West braces for a difficult wildfire season.”

  5. rikyrah says:

    🐝⚖️ Shapiro/Davis for PA Gov/PA Lt. Gov (@Needle_of_Arya) tweeted at 5:21 AM on Tue, Jun 21, 2022:
    Some folks among the far left won’t say out loud so often any more that they hate “identity politics.”

    But they have shifted their language to things like, “defending trans people is a marginal issue”/”stop calling Trump voters ‘bigoted’/’racist’ ,” “Hillary wasn’t inclusive.”

  6. Liza says:

    “I will admit that one mistake that I made politically in 2016 was UNDERESTIMATING the misogyny against Hillary Clinton.”

    Yeah, me too. And looking back I don’t understand how I missed that. That is not to say that there wasn’t a lot of hatred out there that was specific to Hillary. But misogyny is a major problem in this country and I do not believe any woman could have won the electoral vote in 2016.

    On to Kamala Harris and I’ll try to be brief. I never hear about her. Whatever she’s doing it isn’t getting much media attention. Sounds like social media is where she might be getting some attention and even that is limited.

    Kamala Harris’ had very little national support as a presidential candidate and that would generally be considered a red flag.

    I was hoping Biden would pick Stacey Abrams. The woman is a powerhouse and a formidable leader. Look at what she’s accomplished in Georgia. And she commands media attention, mostly respectful at least up to now. Keep in mind I don’t watch Fox News.

    But Biden picked Kamala Harris. So okay.

    After their inauguration, the next logical step was to PLAN A STRATEGY to make Kamala Harris a powerful VP. Instead, she’s working on issues like immigration where there is no chance of success.
    And the media isn’t even paying attention to whatever she’s doing. She’s not being groomed to be Biden’s replacement by shoving her off to do her work unnoticed.

    And given Biden’s age, it was imperative that VP Harris be highly visible and presented as a strong VP on a consistent basis.

    And given Biden’s age, don’t bet the farm he will run again or be able to run again or be able to serve another four year term if he’s re-elected. Health is fragile at his age, things can happen very quickly. We wish him the best but we have to be realistic as well.

    I’ve been wondering if Biden’s ego is standing in the way of power sharing. Who knows? Whatever it is, the Democrats need to see the light and approach this a different way while there is still time.

    • Liza says:

      Here’s another thing.

      Democratic leadership has put more effort into normalizing Kyrsten Sinema than promoting Kamala Harris.

      Sinema is a traitor who sells her vote. In her entire political career in AZ and in Congress, she was never in the majority party until 2021. And the first thing she did was to reverse her liberal positions and solicit money from big donors. And she has willingly done their bidding and shown a willingness to take down the Biden presidency. She single handedly killed Build Back Better after Biden promised House progressives and the nation that he had total confidence he could get it passed in the Senate. Her support for the filibuster has blocked voting rights legislation and all other bills that require 60 votes in the Senate.

      But the Democrats continue to patronize her, kiss her fat a$$, beg for her vote, and make her one of the negotiators on the watered down gun safety bill that is already in trouble.

      I’m not saying I know what can be done about Psycho-Sinema but I’m not a politician with decades of experience either.

      And I really don’t think that normalizing her is the answer. It can’t be done.

      And I wouldn’t vote for her again to catch dogs.

      • eliihass says:

        Kyrsten Sinema is what happens when gaslighting, tricks, antics and bamboozling, trumps all else..

        These are now sadly, widely accepted and widely employed tools of the trade …and politicians and the ‘influencers’ and supporters who buoy and power these politicians, have absolutely no qualms fully wielding it..

        It’s all just a power, influence, money game to everyone..

  7. rikyrah says:

    HawaiiDelilah™ votes DEMOCRATIC BLUE (@HawaiiDelilah) tweeted at 8:50 PM on Thu, Jun 09, 2022:
    Every single time you see a Republican claim this hearing is all “old news,” ask them if they sought a pardon for their involvement in the attempted coup. Ask. Every. Single. One. Of. Them. REPEATEDLY.

  8. rikyrah says:

    UH HUH

    Yobruh👊🏾Democracy Forever (@YobruhTheWise) tweeted at 5:10 AM on Sun, Jun 19, 2022:
    There is no black conservative coalition. It appears each big named black conservative are islands with white handlers bank-rolling each of their efforts.

  9. rikyrah says:

    gabs🍓 (@lavendergabss) tweeted at 11:07 PM on Fri, Jun 17, 2022:
    reminder that juneteenth is not about “people of color,” it’s about BLACK people. specifically the descendants of slaves.

  10. rikyrah says:


    LadyGrey 🇦🇲🇺🇦 (@TWLadyGrey) tweeted at 11:58 PM on Sat, Jun 18, 2022:
    It’s insane to me that an entire social media movement needed to be built in order to fact check and uphold the accuracy of reporting by the political press.

    We shouldn’t have to be the ones uncovering that “undecided voter” is the chair of the local GOP.

    Where are the editors?

  11. rikyrah says:

    Those who don’t want to see…..

    War Criminal Elmo 🥞🥂🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦 (@WarCriminalElmo) tweeted at 8:48 PM on Sat, Jun 18, 2022:
    The “Democrats have no bench post-Biden” argument never made a damn bit of sense to me. I can give you over half a dozen names just off the top of my head:
    Kamala Harris
    Pete Buttigieg
    Gretchen Whitmer
    Amy Klobuchar
    Gavin Newsom
    J.B. Pritzker
    Jon Ossoff
    Raphael Warnock

  12. rikyrah says:

    Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) tweeted at 0:25 PM on Sun, Jun 19, 2022:
    The Texas GOP is going for it all. Its platform calls for nullification. Welcome to 1857.

  13. rikyrah says:

    Boom The Brazen Hussy (@TheDuchessBoom) tweeted at 0:20 PM on Sun, Jun 19, 2022:
    Last year, the Royal Family tried the most amateurish smear campaign I’ve ever seen, 3 days before Meghan was due to give an interview with Oprah. A year later they are desperately trying to backtrack and hide their lack of evidence. #RoyalFamilyLied

  14. rikyrah says:

    Thando – Ntsikasaunty (@ntsikasaunty) tweeted at 2:34 PM on Sun, Jun 19, 2022:
    The 👏🏾world 👏🏾is 👏🏾tired 👏🏾of 👏🏾the British👏🏾 Royal 👏🏾Family 👏🏾abusing and 👏🏾bullying👏🏾Meghan Markle.

  15. rikyrah says:

    UH HUH
    UH HUH

    And THEE Tweet Goes On (@lacadri34) tweeted at 6:33 AM on Mon, Jun 20, 2022:
    Since the January 6th coup is continuing, we have to be worried about ALL our institutions failing us. My eye is on policing. I firmly believe some of them will be aiding & abetting fascism on a level we haven’t seen since the 1950s/1960s Jim Crow south.

  16. rikyrah says:


    Shane 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 (@Shane_maps) tweeted at 2:04 PM on Sat, Jun 18, 2022:
    It infuriates me to no end that Biden fulfilled the wish of pretty much everyone by ending the war in Afghanistan and didn’t just get absolutely no credit for it, he was severely punished for it.

  17. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊

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