Juror B37 Reveals That The Jury Decided Based On Information Not Presented At Trial

Juror B37 has reportedly signed with a literary agent and announced that she intends to write a book along with her attorney husband.   Sharlene Martin, President of Martin Literary Management, represents Juror B37 in obtaining a book deal.   In her release of the news, Sharlene Martin has stated that the jury in the George Zimmerman case decided he was not guilty “…due to the manner in which he was charged and the content of the jury instructions.”

On May 10, 2013, prosecutors in case number 2012-001083-CFA,  The State of Florida v. George Zimmerman, filed “State’s Motion To Limit/Exclude Improper Opinion Evidence.”  The three paragraph Motion sets forth in pertinent part;

“The State of Florida, by and through the undersigned Assistant State Attorney, hereby files this Motion in the above-captioned proceeding.

The Defendant has indicated via questioning in pretrial proceedings that he apparently intends to attempt to argue or introduce opinion testimony from one or more witnesses as to their opinion, prior to and/or after Defendant’s arrest, as to his guilt or the propriety of his being criminal charged.

Such testimony (be it from Defendant’s family members, civilians, or even law enforcement personnel) is improper. “

The Honorable Judge Debra Nelson granted the State’s Motion.  No opinion evidence pertaining to George Zimmerman’s guilt, innocence, nor “the propriety of his being criminally charged” was allowed during trial.

Juror B37, or another juror able to persuade her, had already formed an opinion that George Zimmerman should not have been charged and therefore, the evidence presented by State prosecutors at trial was never going to be considered in determining the defendant’s guilt or innocence.

By the jury deciding that George Zimmerman should not have been charged, he effectively did not stand trial to determine his guilt or innocence. A decision of not guilty by a jury cannot be reversed.   However, with the release of this information by Juror B37’s literary agent, there should certainly be an investigation that fraud was committed on the court to, and that, undermined the integrity of judicial process.

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239 Responses to Juror B37 Reveals That The Jury Decided Based On Information Not Presented At Trial

  1. Yalonda says:

    I’m wondering if they gone call a mistral nd bring this juror up on charges

    • They’re quiet as church mice. I want action. Juror B37 needs to be held accountable.

    • No, you can’t. Once a verdict of innocent or not guilty is released, there’s no going back on it.

      It’s one of the strongest points of our jury system, to prevent harassment of innocent people, by subjecting them to trial after trial. In this case, it is less than desirable, but it’s the “best worst system in the world”.

      • Xena says:


        No, you can’t. Once a verdict of innocent or not guilty is released, there’s no going back on it.

        True, for the same jurisdiction. The federal government still has jurisdiction to charge and try George Zimmerman for violating Trayvon Martin’s civil rights. This happened in the case against the cops in the State of California who were acquitted in the case involving Rodney King, but at least two were later convicted in the federal case.

        There’s possibility that the verdict can be overturned due to fraud on the court, but that’s not very realistic. The only case where that happened involved a bench trial where the judge was paid a bribe. If authorities should find that jury tampering was involved in Zimmerman’s case, those parties involved are more than likely to be charged with obstruction of justice than the verdict being overturned.

        One thing we know is that George Zimmerman will live forever having his words and lies recorded for the world to see and hear.

  2. Juror names

    The identities of the six women who served as Zimmerman’s jury are a secret, thanks to an order by the judge.

    How long they will remain so, however, is an open question.

    Defense attorney Mark O’Mara initially asked that their names be kept under seal permanently, but after more than a dozen media companies — including the Orlando Sentinel — objected, Nelson rejected that request.

    She signed an order ruling that their names would remain secret during the trial. O’Mara, however, asked that that be extended for six months.

    “This should be a sufficient amount of time for any community passions to cool, should an acquittal occur,” he wrote in a motion filed June 25, after the jury was sworn in and had begun hearing evidence.

    Protests began as soon as the verdict was read, and in the week since have spread across the country.

    Four of the six jurors, still anonymous, issued a statement Tuesday saying, among other things, that they wanted their lives to remain private.

    They also distanced themselves from juror B-37, who appeared on CNN Monday and Tuesday and defended Zimmerman and the jury’s decision. She also signed with a literary agent but quickly backed out of that deal after being harshly criticized on social-media sites and seeing news reports about protests.



    Defense attorney Mark O’Mara initially asked that their names be kept under seal permanently

  3. Linda says:

    Actually I have been informed that Florida has a 3 year statute of limitations and does allow for a mistrial if there is evidence of jury tampering. What was the point of sesquestration when these women had unlimited family visits. I knew this trial was doomed when I found out all women–or their husbands–were 2nd amendment backing gun owning NRA members. And I hate to say it, but in 2013 Florida, as in much of the country, women defer to their husband’s opinions (or orders in some cases.)

    • Bill S. says:

      A mistrial can only be ordered if the defendant is found guilty. A verdict of not guilty can never be questioned.

      • triumph says:

        Not true:

        However, shortly before Aleman’s trial started, Cooley was asked by First Ward political boss Pat Marcy to arrange a bench trial with a judge who could be bribed to acquit. Accepting the arrangement, Cooley offered a $10,000 bribe to Cook County Circuit Court Judge Frank Wilson to find Aleman innocent. Wilson agreed, but later demanded more money to compensate for the risk. As a result, Aleman was acquitted in a bench trial.[6]


        During the late 1980s, investigators started Operation GamBat, an extensive investigation into decades of corruption and mob ties inside the Chicago court system. In February 1990, fearing prosecution from his actions during the 1977 Logan trial, retired judge Frank Wilson shot himself to death at his Arizona retirement home.[6]


        Aleman was subsequently convicted at a retrial and sentenced to life in prison

        If it can be proved that the trial was fixed from the outset the verdict can be vacated.

      • Bill S. says:

        Nothing in that source indicates that Aleman was re-tried for the same crime.

        In this instance, you are asking the state to question the jury’s reasoning in coming to their verdict of not guilty, which is disturbing. By this logic, the State could find any shred of evidence to discredit just one juror and order another trial, re-trying Zimmerman over and over and over again until they got the result they wanted. The Constitution simply does not permit this.

        • Ametia says:

          I know all about the workings of the Constitution, Bill. It’s amazing how IT is used to promote agendas to suit whomever whenever.

      • Bill,

        What is disturbing is a juror who goes on national tv and admits the decision was reached with information not presented at trial. Listen to Juror B37’s interview. Then we find out later the sheriff’s office admits jury had unsupervised visits and a book deal is made within 12 hours of the “not guilty”? WTF? Something smells and it stinks to high heaven. That’s what’s disturbing!

      • triumph says:

        You obviously didn’t read the wiki article closely: (Also, you could try looking into it more closely yourself.)

        In 1997, Aleman was convicted of the Logan murder and sentenced to 300 years in state prison. Aleman’s re-trial and subsequent conviction are historic as he is the first American to be retried for murder following a fraudulent first trial. This was first profiled in 2002 and verified on the A&E Television Network/Biography Channel program “American Justice”/“Notorious,” and later on the National Geographic Channel documentary: “National Geographic: Inside” – “Chicago Mob Takedown” in 2011. The retrial, however, does not constitute double jeopardy. The United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit ruled original trial presided by Judge Frank Wilson was a sham – because the acquittal was guaranteed by the bribe he accepted.[8] This Fifth Amendment ruling was named Harry Aleman vs. Judges of the Criminal Division, Circuit Court of Cook County, Illinois, et al., 1998. The ruling basically means that if in a bench trial the defendant is found not guilty, but if evidence is shown that an act of bribery took place between the defendant and the judge, the defendant can be retried again for the same crime and it would not be considered double jeopardy. This is because the defendant was never in jeopardy to begin with.


        It’s called a legal precedent. Juror B37 could be in a heap o’ trouble, and Furious George could be facing a real trial without jury coaching.

      • Bill S. says:

        Thank you for citing the court case. This does make sense: he had paid for a not guilty verdict ahead of time, therefore he was never in jeopardy to begin with.

        This is simply not the case here. Mr. Zimmerman was in jeopardy. Both sides had an opportunity to fully vet the jurors and they settled on the jury that was seated. It is an imperfect system but it is the best and fairest system that exists. An acquitted defendant cannot forever live in fear that a juror will say something in the future that the state can pounce on and order the not guilty verdict to be vacated.

        • Xena says:

          @Bill S.

          An acquitted defendant cannot forever live in fear that a juror will say something in the future that the state can pounce on and order the not guilty verdict to be vacated.

          True, as a fraudulent juror cannot take the chance of facing criminal charges if spilling the beans about the fraud. The certainty that one or more stealth jurors can persuade the other jurors is not there, or the persuasion not proven without the testimony of the jurors. Rather than it being a situation of petitioning the court for a re-trial, I would think that any stealth juror would be brought up on charges instead — maybe obstruction of justice.

          Here we have a unique situation because juror B37 opened her mouth and put her foot in it. If she is investigated and charged with whatever is appropriate, then Zimmerman will have one more person under his toxic belt.

    • Yalonda says:

      And it’s sad that a true clear verdict wasn’t served!

  4. This should be grounds for a mistrial. Juror B37 already planning a book and has a deal lined up. She must have been planning it from the start


    Anderson Cooper has interviewed one of the white female jurors who acquitted George Zimmerman and she has declared that she has a book deal signed which her husband had negotiated while the trial was in progress. This should be reason for a mistrial since it is clear she had already read any information about the incident and already decided the verdict. She saw an opportunity for profit.

    Juror B37 is a white female and the daughter of an Air Force captain and volunteers rescuing animals, said the jury relied partly on Florida’s “stand your ground” law that allows people to defend themselves with force when confronted.

    She says Zimmerman had a good heart and meant well but Trayvon was a bad person and chose to attack Zimmerman so he had to pay with his life. In the interview with Anderson Cooper she said

    “I think George Zimmerman is a man whose heart was in the right place, but just got displaced by the vandalism in the neighborhoods, and wanting to catch these people so badly, that he went above and beyond what he really should have done,”

    “I don’t think it’s really racial. I think it’s just the everyday life, the type of life that [black people] live, and how they’re living, in the environment that they’re living in,”

    It is clear that she is the purest of the white race and probably only sees black folks on TV. She spends her day pitying animals and hold absolute disdain for black people.

    • eebelz says:

      Sheesh. How is killing someone going “above and beyond what he really should have done”? Beyond, yes – waaaaay beyond. Above? No, killing someone is about as low as you can get.

      Did this woman not even hear her own words when she said it wasn’t about race, it was about how Black people live? (I’m paraphrasing her, but not much.)

      White privilege can really make a person stupid.

      • cielo62 says:

        eeblz~ B37 went above and beyond in terms of White Privilege. Nope. She’s a racist bigot, very clearly.


  5. AG Eric Holder condemns SYG


    • cielo62 says:

      Granny~ I, too am ashamed. What is bone shattering depressing are the comments. What the fuck is wrong with my world???


  6. GrannyStandingforTruth says:

    The jury’s verdict told me that before I go to bed tonight, I need to set my clock back. Set it back 226 years.

    Oh Lawd, the jurors want us to feel some sympathy for what they’ve been through.
    Granny<—giving those heffas some major eye rollage. Did any of them feel any sympathy for Trayvon, a dead child? Nope! So, sorry ladies you can only get what you put in and you had none for a dead child, so I have none for you.

  7. Looking back over my notes during jury selection Juror B51 held her own with Don West. He tried to put fear into her and she wouldn’t bulge. WTF happened in that jury room?

    • Xena says:

      @SG2. What happened in that jury room was effected by what happened outside that jury room, which was sequestration. It is hard on men who are sequestered for two weeks, but even more hard on women. The majority of the women were over the age of 40. They needed to get to their monthly appointment with Miss Clairol.

      • roderick2012 says:

        I have said it before and I will say it again…this is the fault of Judges Lester and Nelson.

        If either of them had enforced a gag order then sequestation would not have been necessary.

        • Xena says:


          If either of them had enforced a gag order then sequestation would not have been necessary.

          Yes, particularly Judge Nelson because the State presented evidence of O’Mara’s attempt to taint the jury pool. So, O’Mara tainted the jury pool, got three tainted jurors on the pool, and because they were sequestered, it allowed them time to wear down the other three to get the verdict O’Mara wanted.

          • roderick2012 says:

            Exactly. The defense got everything it wanted because that homely b was supposedly being careful not to give the defense grounds to appeal.

  8. ibwilliamsi says:

    We need to have a “Son of Sam” type law for jurors. No juror should be able to profit the publicity of their jury duty. Juror #37 is a joke. A sick, sick joke.

  9. GrannyStandingforTruth says:

    I wish those in mainstream media who are only interested in ratings would interview the cousin that Zimmerman molested. Trust me their ratings would skyrocket.

  10. I went back and checked my notes during jury selection and all of us saw a problem with Juror B37. We nailed it way back then.


    She stated there was rioting but organized and repeated it. Bernie should have used a strike to get her ass out of there.

  11. ibwilliamsi says:

    I’d sure be interested to know exactly WHEN this woman who “had never heard of or paid attention to the Trayvon Martin killing” first had contact with her book publisher.

  12. GrannyStandingforTruth says:

    Okay, I’m back. I am sitting in my bed. B37 let tell you how I feel about your sob story. Can you hear me playing the violin.

    • GrannyStandingforTruth says:

      B37, I hope it irritated you that I did not put a question mark at the end of that sentence you snobby elitist heffa.

  13. Ametia says:

    To the Zimmerman Jury: You made your choice, and now you’re going to have to LIVE with it.

    And if you’re reading this, you idiots, you’re not really wanting any privacy. You’re looking for sympathy and support for your actions in letting Zimmerman go free. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.

    • Xena says:

      CNN interviewed a juror on the OJ Simpson murder trial. They were sequestered for 10 months. He said that being sequestered had a lot to do with how quickly they reached the verdict. Then I remembered that it was O’Mara who asked for a sequestered jury. By that time, the State probably thought it was best because it was O’Mara who was trying the case in the media.

      So, O’Mara created the conditions necessary to have a sequestered jury, and a sequestered jury is quick to enter a verdict of not guilty rather than examine all of the evidence because their first priority is to get back home.

      • Ametia says:

        Then folks need to answer HONESTLY when ithey are nterviewed and asked if they are willing to be SEQUESTERED. They’re told what SEQUESRATION is and what it entails.

        • Xena says:

          @Ametia. They were also told that the trial would be 2 to 4 weeks. Trial took 13 days. Someone in the jury room apparently began to complain that they were only suppose to be there 2 weeks, so they rushed their verdict. If not but for the fact that there was no court on July 4th, they probably would not have spent Saturday as a make-up day deliberating.

    • Xena says:

      Bull! That jury did not do what the law required, because based on their last question, they didn’t understand the law. Not one of those 6 women knew how to ask a specific question so they could apply the facts to the law.

      • Ametia says:

        The entire jury did exactly what they intended to do, let the child killer go free. So they all can MISS me with their swan songs. Fuck’em!

    • Ametia says:

      These 4 jurors can put statements like this on fancy legal letterhead all they like, I’m NOT trying to care about their feelings about the process.

    • 4Jurors, GZ attacked law enforcement officers, kicked a dog in the stomach, threw a woman across the room, had a restraining order filed against him, engaged in road rage, bullied a co-worker relentlessly at CarMax & then murdered a kid. YOU set him free!

      • Ametia says:

        Oh but according to B-37, George has a “good heart.” Thery’re some cold-blooded folks who didn’t even see Trayvon as a human being. FUCK’EM!

      • Ametia says:

        @SG2. And this kind of behavior is ok with the jurors, that wasn’t key to their deliberation, doncha know! It was all about buying into the continued meme/stereotype of the “BLACK, SCARY, THUG.”

        B-37 seems to have influenced the Not guilty verdict.

      • Yalonda says:

        They set him free to kill again! He lol ater the verdict nd during the trial nd now his parents wanna say they fear 4 his life! Well he didn’t mind taking one so wats the need oc y’all bng afraid 4 him!

    • V. Limes says:

      I’m guessing B-37 promised the other jurors a cut of the money from that book she was planning to write, in exchange for their cooperation. Since that deal’s off the table now, they must feel like suckers.That’s why they’re trying to distance themselves.

  14. Breaking News:

    Four jurors in the George Zimmerman trial issue statement saying Juror B37’s CNN interview does not reflect their views.


    (CNN) — George Zimmerman “didn’t do anything unlawful” and was “justified” in shooting 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, according to one of the jurors who acquitted Zimmerman.

    The woman, known as Juror B37, spoke exclusively to CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360.” Part 1 of the interview aired Monday, and part 2 aired Tuesday night.

    Shortly after the interview segment Tuesday, four other jurors released a statement responding to her comments.

    “We, the undersigned jurors, understand there is a great deal of interest in this case. But we ask you to remember that we are not public officials and we did not invite this type of attention into our lives,” they said.

    “We also wish to point out that the opinions of Juror B37, expressed on the Anderson Cooper show were her own, and not in any way representative of the jurors listed below.”

    The jurors identified themselves only by their jury pool numbers.

    Juror B37 told CNN she wanted to find Zimmerman guilty of “not using his senses,” but that “you can’t charge him with anything because he didn’t do anything unlawful.”

    • Ametia says:

      Fuck these women; fuck’em REAL GOOD. They sent a question to JN during deliberation, and Jn sent back a response. These women didn’t respond in kind. They’d already made up their minds.

      And I am NOT FOOLED by their emotional cries for privacy and comments about following the law. We know exactly what law they followed, and it didn’t work out for Trayvon, did it?

      So FUCK: B-51, B-56 , E-6, E-40 Trayvon’s BLOOD will forever be on your hands, right along B-37 & that MURDERER Geroge Zimmerman.

      • Seconded!

        IF they didn’t understand Manslaughter and needed clarity on it then how the fuck could they vote “Not Guilty”?

      • Ametia says:

        This is some kind of sick game these MOFOs are playing,and they can count 3 Chics OUT.They didn’t want to understand Manslaughter. It was about taking care of their own, “GEORGIE”

        Miss we with the CROCODILE TEARS, ladies. ya gets nothing from me but disgust and contempt.

      • leutisha says:

        Sounds like they got pimped by juror B37 and now they’re trying to be runaway slaves.

        I say we treat ’em like runaway slaves and punish them the same way Massa used to do, since they insist on returning to the ante-bellum days of where they live, the rat byotches.

      • Ametia says:

        @Leutisha. LOL@ runaway slaves. Yep; this women could have used this JURY trial as a teachable moment, but NOPE, they’re going right back to their gated communities,lock their doors, and wait for “GEORGIE” to save’m from the negroes!

      • rikyrah says:

        Fuck these women; fuck’em REAL GOOD.

        tell it

        tell it


  15. disappointed says:

    4 OF THE JURORS made a statement and said basically b37 gave her view not their view. I would like to add a comment I left at Fred’s place.
    Apparently Frank Taffe’s twitter account has been printed by a guest on Dr Drew. Frank T called ba lacks “c-otton p=ickers” {his words}and something else. Wow and he swears fogen is not a racist. I am sick and disgusted. I think I am going to put myself in time out for 24 hours. This can not be my America. It just can’t be. I can not be this blind to my surroundings, could I? I feel really uncomfortable repeating his words but if we want justice maybe we should follow all of the idiots and see what is out there. I apologize if I offend anyone by my repeating what frank said.

    • Hi disappointed,

      You’re not offending anyone. I’ve seen Frank Taaffe’s twitter. It’s disgusting. I can’t believe HLN continues to have him on the show. He constantly hurls racial insults & he has no respect towards others on the panel. I’m waiting for him to call someone a racial slur. He is just that ignorant.

    • Ametia says:

      I’m not following these racists fools. I already know what’s out there and won’t give the many clicks.

    • Yalonda says:

      Don’t feel bad cuz Mr Taaffee is responsible 4 his own actions nd it was very clear that no matter wat ne body said he was gone fi.d a way 2 justify gz actions! God has the last say so nd he gone deal wth gz nd ft believe that! U ain’t did nuthin wrong @disappointed,

  16. rikyrah says:

    How George Zimmerman’s Acquittal Became My Negro Wake-Up Call

    Posted July 15, 2013 by Christina Coleman for Global Grind Staff

    The rude alarm clock that propelled me back into my uncomfortable state of constant rage as a black woman in this country went shrieking when the judge read George Zimmerman’s “not guilty” verdict.

    And this time, there were no snooze buttons, no temporary celebratory black wins to even the score with the insatiable race monster, no easy way to swallow the pill.

    It seemed the victory I thought we would gain, standing on the precipice of this undoubtedly historic trial, had crumbled in my hands. Harsh. Hard. And then gone. Like someone had splashed cold water on my slumbering mind…

    I woke the fuck up.

    And like anyone roused from their sleep, the world appeared blurry. Surreal. Out of focus. And then all at once, too real.

    Like a baby, the tears started immediately. And I knew in my heart that it had little to do with the time, the fight, the effort our team at GlobalGrind had invested into making sure Trayvon Martin’s life mattered. That, I would do one hundred times over.

    It was the realization that it wasn’t just Trayvon’s life that held little value. It was the souls of all black folk weighing no more than three fifths of an individual.

    George Zimmerman and his defense had banished my brothers, my fathers and my future sons back to 1787.

    The light, glaring at me from my laptop as I covered the part of the trial I didn’t allow myself to imagine before, made things clearer. The Zimmerman trial was just a compromise. Same for his delayed arrest, 45 days after murdering the unarmed black child who had every right to roam the neighborhood where his father lived. Angela Corey, the State Attorney who set into motion Zimmerman’s judicial journey, rocked us to sleep and put out the fires our initial anger and sadness had caused. They were all pacifiers, used to keep us docile. But we were never meant to win. Blind. Sleeping. Slumber.

    I’m still waking up.

    It was my America who put a dead black boy on trial for his own murder. Slack jaw, ashen lips, clothes wet from his tussle with the man who would take his life and never apologize for it. A bullet through his heart and a bloody hooded sweatshirt. Trayvon sat on the stand, testifying at his murderer’s trial, his body saying everything. But the justice system heard nothing.

    George Zimmerman was able to walk free. And we, black Americans, as conflicted as we are, were sentenced to a hundred more years of systematic oppression, of dealing with a justice system that was not built to protect us, of constant fear and agitation that comes from men in blue suits and black, shiny boots holding 9mm of loaded death in their hands.

    Or, any non-black person with a concealed weapons permit and a furiosity to ask a black man where his papers are, then shoot him on sight for fitting the profile.

    Fitting the profile. Of being a black person. That’s what Trayvon Martin was charged with. That was his death sentence.

    How does it feel to BE a problem?

    And so I sat, thinking of Trayvon Martin, Sean Bell, Oscar Grant. I sat thinking of the vigilante racism that my grandparents had to stomach, and the eerie juxtaposition of their racial world to our supposed post-racial world.

    I sat thinking of me, a black woman who, although aware of injustices of my own people, could be jolted into another realm of consciousness at the raw fear that I have of this country and what it’s capable and allowed to do to me.

    I woke the fuck up.

    I got a call on Saturday that told me that I would inherit the hardest job of all – being a mother, a sister, a wife to black men I could never truly protect. Because the color of their skin puts them in the cross hairs of people like George Zimmerman.

    And it’s legal.

    I got that call, my first real negro wake up call, that this world is farther away from post-racial than I initially thought. I’m a black person in America. And the social constructs of this great nation, after hundreds of years, are still not mature enough to protect the rights we believe we have.

    Like walking down the street after 7 p.m. However common you think that privilege is, we’ve never had it.

    That’s the nightmare. But I refuse to accept it. I don’t have an answer, I just know the root. And I’m dedicated to changing it.

    I’m not going back to sleep. I don’t have that luxury. So…I stay woke.

    I hope you will too.

    Read more: http://globalgrind.com/news/how-george-zimmermans-acquittal-became-my-negro-wake-up-call-blog#ixzz2ZGHvRM6l

    • leutisha says:

      Shit, she’s JUST NOW getting her “Nigger, wake up!” call?

      Oh well, at least she woke the fuck up. My anger is at those (side eye to Ta-Nehisi Coates) who are trying to act mad but say stupid shyt – by trying to side step in the hope this issue goes away.

      Thanks to Juror B37 letting us know the trial was rigged from day 1, we ain’t never going back to sleep, if we ever were.

      I want B37’s ass on trial for perjury and jury tampering, collusion (her hubby used to golf with Zimmerman’s pappy, therefore, she had the appearance of already knowing “George” before she was selected to serve and should have been disqualified from consideration).

      Prosecution serve at the pleasure of Rick Scott – the DA is probably up for re-election, and the rest just mailed in their show of “prosecuting” Zimmerman’s fat ass.

      • cielo62 says:

        leutisha~ I have never heard of a nigger wake up call! Can you get one if you’re a white hispanic? (I’m referring to myself. I never would have expected this to happen. I am very very disillusioned.)


    • disappointed says:

      2 disgusting baby killers free? Well that is m.o. of them 2. I won’t even bother typing out their names. Disgusting 1 and disgusting 2.

  17. rikyrah says:

    Disturbing chart shows rise in “justified killings” of blacks in U.S.

    July 16, 2013 at 7:00 am by: seeta

    Last year, PBS Frontline published a fascinating analysis of how murder convictions have been affected by “Stand Your Ground” laws, which expand the reach of self-defense laws that protected Zimmerman. The study was conducted by John Roman, a senior analyst at Urban Institute’s Justice Policy Center who had previously conducted studies on the statistical relationships between race and homicide in the United States. As an interesting aside, it’s worth noting that the Supreme Court of the United States ruled in 1987 that a defendant cannot use statistical evidence in court to prove racial bias when it comes to death sentences. Mull that over as you read. Writes Sarah Childress for Frontline: At FRONTLINE’s request, Roman analyzed the pool of 43,500 homicides by race in states with Stand Your Ground laws and those without them. Because he wanted to control for multiple variables — the races of the victim and the shooter, whether they were strangers, whether they involved a firearm and whether the murders were in Stand Your Ground states — Roman used a technique known as regression analysis, which is a statistical tool to analyze the relationship between different pieces of data. Using this analysis, Roman found that a greater number of homicides were found justified in Stand Your Ground states in all racial combinations, a result he believes is because those states yielded more killings overall. Roman also found that Stand Your Ground laws tend to track the existing racial disparities in homicide convictions across the U.S. — with one significant exception: Whites who kill blacks in Stand Your Ground states are far more likely to be found justified in their killings. In non-Stand Your Ground states, whites are 250 percent more likely to be found justified in killing a black person than a white person who kills another white person; in Stand Your Ground states, that number jumps to 354 percent. You can see the breakdown of the killings in the chart below. The figures represent the percentage likelihood that the deaths will be found justifiable compared to white-on-white killings, which was the baseline Roman used for comparison: –

    See more at: http://criticalmassprogress.com/2013/07/16/disturbing-chart-shows-rise-in-justified-killings-of-blacks-in-u-s/#sthash.wnZ1rgCh.dpuf

  18. rikyrah says:

    Trayvon Martin and My Old Doctor

    Tuesday, July 16, 2013 |
    Posted by adept2u at 12:21 PM

    I am desolate.

    I’ve been trying for the last few days to put out something anything about the Trayvon Martin case, but I couldn’t get past my 5 MFer rule. That means no publish if I use 5 MFers in a paragraph.

    I hope I can someday speak of going forward, but unfortunately today is not that day.

    I just kicked this out in the last half an hour, and since it didn’t have any MRers in it, I thought I’d share.

    A couple of months ago I had to fire my doctor. To be honest it wasn’t the doctor; he struck me as a compassionate person, and I and my family liked going to him. However when I went to my last appointment the receptionist threw me out of their office because she feared violence from me.

    I had set a rather normal appointment to have my blood drawn for my annual fasting blood sugar. Black folks and the sugar is a real issue you know. The night before I also had a real problem with my tooth and my face looked like Popeye and I was in pain going to the dentist after I had my draw.

    When I got there the receptionist told me she had forgotten the nurse who did the work had unexpectedly left 2 weeks before and she had neglected to call any patients. I most calmly as a person who hadn’t eaten for 16 hours and had a blinding toothache asked why was I in her office at 7 a.m. and what was I supposed to do?

    Rather than getting an answer I was profiled. I had every right to be angry just like Trayvon Martin had every right to walk home from the store, I had every right to demand apologia and good customer service, and although I did, it was in no way angry. Yet the receptionist an older Latina lady who if she didn’t speak and expose her accent would be considered White found me a threat and asked me to leave.

    I had to fire my doctor. There is no way I would submit myself for care to people who would fear a 50 year old grandfather, and never even consider me like a patient. The receptionist never even asked me how I was doing so I could have said crappy.

    Today I think I might have to fire my country. Today I have come to the inescapable conclusion that a black child who is murdered may not be treated as a victim. I live in a country where a party can elect people and consider them Presidential candidates that hire unabashed neo confederates, and their sons who freely adopt the persona of N1ggerkiller not be considered a racist.

    I live in a country where we as Black people have been cowed from even naming the phenomenon RACISM that oppresses us, and even in liberal environs it is more damaging to accuse anyone or anything of racism than racism itself.


  19. cielo62 says:

    >^..^< Jury tampering could probably be proved thus leading to a mistrial and a new trial IF anybody in Florida gave a flying fuck. I have lost faith in justice in Florida. May they sink into the ocean with the next hurricane.

    • cielo62 says:

      SINK into the ocean. Sheesh

    • Xena says:

      Hi Cielo62! (I fixed the error) :-)

      Now, now. If Florida sunk into the ocean, there would be a new type of whale in the ocean, and he carries a gun. We wouldn’t want to put all the other ocean life forms in jeopardy.

    • roderick2012 says:

      Cileo, I live in West Palm Beach but then that would probably give you greater incentive to wish that Florida falls into the Atlantic.

      • cielo62 says:

        roderick~ nah, I like the Atlantic. West Palm Beach is beautiful. Maybe a few well placed lightening bolts would be better!


  20. rikyrah says:

    GOP rep on Zimmerman verdict: ‘Get over it’

    4:52 PM, Jul 16, 2013 |

    A Republican congressman from Maryland has this message for people fixating over the verdict in George Zimmerman’s trial: “Get over it.”

    Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, was acquitted Saturday in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, a Florida teenager. Trayvon’s death and Zimmerman’s trial have been at the center of a national debate over racial profiling.

    “We’re hung up on this one case, where this one fellow was, in fact, found not guilty by a jury. That’s the way the American law system works. Get over it, ” Rep. Andy Harris, R-Md., said Tuesday on WMAL radio.

    Harris, a conservative who was first elected in 2010, also suggested there has been too much news media coverage — especially on TV — about the trial and its aftermath. “We missed the forest through the trees to a large extent with all the huge issues going on in the world,” Harris said.


    • leutisha says:

      I see Andy Harris don’t want to serve as the GOP Thug Critter from my state anymore.

      This is the same fool who whined about his health care benefits not kicking in for thirty days after he started serving as a congress critter. I hope Maryland finishes becoming a blue state by voting his ass out before his lifetime benefits kick in.

  21. rikyrah says:

    I’m Glad We Cleared That Up

    Posted on July 16, 2013 at 3:30 pm by JM Ashby

    Because Richard Cohen recognizes that hoodies are a “uniform we all recognize,” which is apparently the uniform of The Thugs™, he is a racist. He says so himself. I certainly won’t argue with that.

    This impressive piece of racist apologia from The Washington Post’s Richard Cohen is cut from the same cloth as John Derbyshire and many other white men before him who believed that they were the first person to come up with these ideas. That they’ve got it all figured out.

    The truth is men have employed the same rationalizations to excuse their own prejudices for decades. More recently former Heritage Foundation fellow Jason Richwine used similar arguments, false intuition, and junk science to justify his support for eugenics and the idea that we shouldn’t pass comprehensive immigration reform because Latinos are genetically inferior.

    But getting back to Cohen being an admitted racist — he even went on to say that, while the death of Trayvon Martin is tragic, Zimmerman wasn’t necessarily wrong for suspecting him. He was black after all. Wearing the “uniform we all recognize.”


  22. rikyrah says:

    Today at 12:46 PM
    Questlove: Trayvon Martin and I Ain’t Shit
    By Ahmir Questlove Thompson

    The following essay is an adaptation of a Facebook post by Ahmir “Questlove” Thompson in response to George Zimmerman’s acquittal in the killing of Trayvon Martin. Questlove is the drummer for the Roots and the bandleader on Late Night With Jimmy Fallon.

    I’m trying not to internalize these feelings about the Trayvon Martin case and make it about me — but hey, it is what it is, and maybe I’m melodramatic. All I’m consumed with is my positioning in life.

    I often tell cute, self-deprecating celebrity run-in stories that end with my own “pie in the face” moment. But rarely do I share stories of a more serious nature, another genre of “pie in the face” moments, mostly because in the age of social media, most people are quick to dismiss my tales as #FirstWorldProblems. But I can’t tell you how many times a year I’m in a serious situation, only to hear the magic words “Oh, wait … Questlove?” Hey guys, it’s Questlove. “We’re so sorry, you can go!” Like, five to seven times a year, a night ending in the words “Thank God for that Afro or we’d never have recognized you” happens to me.

    I’m in scenarios all the time in which primitive, exotic-looking me — six-foot-two, 300 pounds, uncivilized Afro, for starters — finds himself in places where people who look like me aren’t normally found. I mean, what can I do? I have to be somewhere on Earth, correct? In the beginning — let’s say 2002, when the gates of “Hey, Ahmir, would you like to come to [swanky elitist place]?” opened — I’d say “no,” mostly because it’s been hammered in my DNA to not “rock the boat,” which means not making “certain people” feel uncomfortable.

    I mean, that is a crazy way to live. Seriously, imagine a life in which you think of other people’s safety and comfort first, before your own. You’re programmed and taught that from the gate. It’s like the opposite of entitlement.

    The problem is, I do have desires to go to certain places and do certain things and enjoy the perks and benefits of being a person who works his arse off as much as I do. So I got over my hang-ups of not wanting to be the odd guy in the room sometime around 2007. It’s been mixed results at best. Some of it is “Oh, that wasn’t that bad”; some of it is “Well, that was awkward … ” This is the prime reason I hate vacations. I don’t feel like being the “odd guy out” at vacation spots, hence the reason my 2009 hobo journey train trip was my best vacation ever. There’s no scaring people on a train ride. My friends know that I hate parking lots and elevators, not because they are places that danger could occur, but it’s a prime place in which someone of my physical size can be seen as a dangerous element. I wait and wait in cars until I feel it’s safe for me to make people feel safe. I know most of y’all are eye-rolling, but if you spent a good three months in these size fourteens, you’d understand why I take that position.

    I recently told a friend one of these stories: I live in a “nice” building. I work hard. You know I work hard. My logic is (naïve alert in 5, 4, 3, 2 … ) “Well, there can’t be any fear of any type in this building” — you’ve got to go through hell and high water just to get accepted to live here, like it’s Dartmouth or UPenn. Secondly, there are, like, five to eight guards on duty 24/7, so this spot is beyond safe. Like, Oscar winners and kids of royalty and sports guys and mafia goombahs live here. One night, I get in the elevator, and just as the door closes this beautiful woman gets on. Because of a pain in the arse card device you have to use to get to your floor, it just makes it an easier protocol for whoever is pressing floors to take everyone’s request, like when you are at the window of a drive-thru. So I press my floor number, and I ask her, “What floor, ma’am?” (Yes, I say “ma’am,” because … sigh, anyway.) She says nothing, stands in the corner. Mind you, I just discovered the Candy Crush app, so if anything, I’m the rude one because I’m more obsessed with winning this particular level than anything else. In my head I’m thinking, There’s no way I can be a threat to a woman this fine if I’m buried deep in this game — so surely she feels safe.

    The humor comes in that I thought she was on my floor because she never acknowledged my floor request. (She was also bangin’, so inside I was like, “Dayuuuuuuuuuuum, she lives on my floor? *bow chicka wowow*!” Instantly I was on some “What dessert am I welcome-committee-ing her with?”) Anywho, the door opens, and I waited to let her off first because I am a gentleman. (Old me would’ve rushed first, thus not putting me in the position to have to follow her, God forbid if she, too, makes a left and it seems like I’m following her.) So door opens and I flirt, “Ladies first.” She says, “This is not my floor.” Then I assume she is missing her building card, so I pulled my card out to try to press her floor yet again. She says, “That’s okay.”

    Then it hit me: “Oh God, she purposely held that information back.” The door closed. It was a “pie in the face” moment.

    I laughed at it. Sort of.

    Inside I cried. But if I cried at every insensitive act that goes on in the name of safety, I’d have to be committed to a psych ward. I’ve just taught myself throughout the years to just accept it and maybe even see it as funny. But it kept eating at me (Well, I guess she never watched the show … My English was super clear … I called her “ma’am” like I was Webster … Those that know you know that you’re cool, but you definitely know that you are a walking rape nightmare — right, Ahmir? Of course she was justified in not saying her floor. That was her prerogative! You are kinda scary-looking, I guess?). It’s a bajillion thoughts, all of them self-depreciating voices slowly eating my soul away.

    But my feelings don’t count. I don’t know why it’s that way. Mostly I’ve come to the conclusion that people over six feet and over weight regulation or as dark as me (or in my tax bracket) simply don’t have feelings. Or it’s assumed we don’t have feelings. I mean, it’s partially right: I literally figured the only way for me to not go insane in a career that creates junkies (or at best Kanye) is to desensitize myself from feelings. The thing is, though, I’m a halfway crook, an awesome poker player. Yeah, I hurt. But I’ll be damned if I let you know that. Call me a 75 percent robot, 25 percent human being.


  23. billhoner says:

    Walking While Black: The juror B37 convicted Trayvon Martin of “walking while black”. Her comments were unwittingly racist. She found Zimmerman quite credible but not the young lady on the phone with the victim. I heard her interview on CNN; she made several gratuitous derogatory comments about the young African-American teenager, including poor education and poor communication skills. I listened to Rachel’s testimony during the trial. She speaks appropriately for the people from her neighborhood and as a teenager.

    As for Trayvon cutting through the back way on the property, she had no problem finding him suspicious, making reference to the number of prior crimes in the neighborhood. The fact that on all prior calls Zimmerman had identified the suspicious individuals as African-American did not enter her thinking, nor did Zimmerman telling the police that he got out of his car to look at the street sign when he lives on a property where there are only three street names. She revealed a strong defense bias. B37 finished by saying that she had sympathy for both Zimmerman and Trayvon, as though both have suffered equally. No one knows precisely what happened initially. Indeed, for all we know, Zimmerman could have grabbed the youth and Trayvon reacted out of fear for his life with a stranger following him on a dark rainy night. We have witnessed “driving while black” in New Jersey with New Jersey State troopers and elsewhere. Now we have “walking while black” in Florida. Bill Honer

  24. rikyrah says:

    Holder: After Trayvon’s Death, I Talked With My Teen Son About The ‘World He Must Confront’


    Eric Holder, the country’s first African-American attorney general, talked about the killing of Trayvon Martin in personal terms Tuesday, telling an audience at the NAACP 2013 Convention how the shooting prompted him to have a conservation with his 15-year-old son about race.

    “Trayvon’s death last spring caused me to sit down to have a conversation with my own 15-year-old son, like my dad did with me. This was a father-son tradition I hoped would not need to be handed down,” Holder said. “But as a father who loves his son and who is more knowing in the ways of the world, I had to do this to protect my boy. I am his father and it is my responsibility, not to burden him with the baggage of eras long gone, but to make him aware of the world he must still confront. This is a sad reality in a nation that is changing for the better in so many ways.”

    Holder also said the death of Trayvon Martin reminded him of experiences he had as a young man of being pulled over and having his car searched twice on the New Jersey Turnpike for no apparent reason. More recently, when he was a federal prosecutor, he was stopped by a police officer while going to a movie at night in Georgetown in D.C


  25. rikyrah says:

    juror b37 and the racist complicity of white womanhood

    We were supposed to feel bad for HER. SHE was put in a difficult position. SHE cried. SHE signed with a literary agent to tell HER story. SHE went on Anderson Cooper to talk about HER experience.

    We were supposed to feel bad for HER. SHE was put in a difficult position. SHE cried. SHE signed with a literary agent to tell HER story. SHE went on Anderson Cooper to talk about HER experience.

    Nowhere in Juror B37’s interview was a sense of empathy for her Black sisters. There were plenty of tears, of course, but they were not tears of rage at a racist judicial system at which she, as a citizen of Florida, was called to participate in. There was plenty of empathy for George Zimmerman, to the point where she put words in his mouth, but there was no empathy for Sybrina Fulton or Tracy Martin, no sorrow that a child died for simply existing in the world, one of the greatest tragedies I can think of.

    Juror B37 is the monstrous specter of white womanhood, the plantation mistress, the mother who said My child’s school will not be integrated!, the woman who puts her whiteness over her humanity again and again.

    I say this as a white person who generally reads as a woman and who cares deeply about gender equity: this is the failure of empathy that Black women, genderqueer people and other WOC/TWOC/QPOC have been telling us about for forever and a day. There is a history of white women in the Klan and other racist organizations. There is a history of white capital-F feminist organizations ignoring the specific stories, histories and contexts of women of color. It is something that persists to this day and beyond.


  26. rikyrah says:

    Commentary: B37 Spells Bingo for George Zimmerman

    Defense attorneys knew a jury of five white women and one Hispanic woman would find it difficult to identify with the humanity of a Black teenage boy.

    By Keith Boykin

    Posted: 07/16/2013 11:58 AM EDT

    By her own words Monday night, Juror B37 made the case to convict Zimmerman of manslaughter. After listening to all the evidence, half of the jury initially felt Zimmerman was guilty but the other jurors persuaded them to change their minds. Although B37 was one of the initial not guilty votes herself, her own statements to Anderson Cooper actually make the case for manslaughter.

    “George Zimmerman is guilty of not using good judgment,” she told Cooper. He “shouldn’t have gotten out of the car,” she said. “I think he just didn’t know when to stop,” she added. The situation “got out of hand,” she admitted.

    Juror B37 couldn’t say for sure whether Trayvon Martin reached for the gun, as Zimmerman’s defense argued, but she knew Zimmerman didn’t stop when he should have. And she acknowledged “there were some fabrications” in Zimmerman’s story. Given all that, how could she reason it was self-defense?

    Juror B37 simply identified more with the defendant than with the victim. Throughout the CNN interview, she consistently referred to Zimmerman as “George,” demonstrating her empathy with the accused. “I have no doubt George feared for his life in the situation he was in at the time,” she told Cooper.

    George Zimmerman was “a man whose heart was in the right place,” she said. He was simply “overeager to help people.” Married to an attorney and now backtracking on plans to write a book about the trial, B37 even cited Florida’s Stand Your Ground law for Zimmerman’s benefit. “He had a right to defend himself,” she said. And although she hesitated when asked if she would feel comfortable with Zimmerman on a neighborhood watch in her own community, she wasn’t worried about him getting his gun back. “I think he would be more responsible than anybody else on the planet right now,” she said.

    Unfortunately, Juror B37 could not identify with Trayvon Martin because of her racial naïveté and lack of cultural awareness. She told Cooper that “George” would have reacted in the exact same way if Trayvon had not been Black. He just “profiled anybody who came into the neighborhood acting strange,” she claimed. Race played no part in her decision, she said.


    Juror B37’s disturbing interview helps explain why Zimmerman’s defense wanted her on the jury in the first place and why they chose to close their case by calling Olivia Bertalan, a married white woman who was not a witness to the crime but had been a victim of a burglary in the area six months before Trayvon was killed. “I saw two young African-American guys,” Bertalan told the jury.

    And that’s what this case was about all along — white women’s fear of young Black men. Never mind that the man who broke into Bertalan’s house was 215 pounds and Trayvon was 158 pounds. Never mind that Trayvon had never broken into her house, or any other house for that matter. Never mind that Trayvon was an unarmed teenager on his way home from the 7-Eleven.

    In a society where Black males are viewed as predators, defense attorneys knew all along that a jury of five white women and one Hispanic woman would find it difficult to identify with the humanity of a Black teenage boy. They knew that all-white juries are 16 percent more likely to convict Black defendants than white ones and they knew they planned to put Trayvon Martin on trial, making the dead teen, not George Zimmerman, the defendant.


  27. rikyrah says:

    The Secret Power Of Black Twitter

    Last night Black Twitter killed a George Zimmerman trial Juror’s book deal. But that’s not a surprise: The hive has become a swarm. It’s diffuse, powerful, and all around you.


  28. GrannyStandingforTruth says:

    Ladies, I’m here, but y’all taking the words out my mouth and too much in my head this morning. So, I need to sit back, take it easy today, relax, and let y’all expose B37 and her lying azz. Besides which, granny is mentally and physically exhausted and needs her senior citizen rest today. Carry on ladies and whup that azz real good today with the TRUTH and make her holla ouch. Tell the truth and shame the devil! Don’t leave no stone unturned.

    • Ametia says:

      Hi Granny. LOL Xena and gang have been whooping Asses left and right.
      You take care and rest up lady. We need you in the fight.

  29. AG Holder on racism: “Trayvon’s death caused me to sit down with my son and have that same discussion that my father had with me.”

  30. Juror B37 “hates” the media, but is publishing a book to make money off Trayvon. Then she went on CNN.

    Juror B37  hates the media, but is publishing a book to make money off Trayvon.

  31. Xena says:

    I so appreciate Rachel Jeantel’s interview on Piers Morgan, because she brought out how different generations and races understand words. Bigoted White racists don’t understand what the word “racists” and “racism” means. When that word is used incorrectly, it makes the user sound ignorant — silly. Paul Mooney educates ….


  32. Sharpton to Lead ‘Justice for Trayvon’ Rallies in 100 cities


    The Rev. Al Sharpton announced Tuesday that he will lead a national “Justice for Trayvon” day in 100 cities this weekend to press for federal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman.

    Zimmerman’s acquittal over the weekend in the shooting death of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin has touched off protests around the country. The Justice Department is investigating whether Zimmerman violated Martin’s civil rights when he shot the 17-year-old during a February 2012 confrontation in Sanford, Fla. Zimmerman said he fired his gun in self-defense.

    “People all across the country will gather to show that we are not having a two- or three-day anger fit. This is a social movement for justice,” Sharpton said as he announced the plan outside the Justice Department with several ministers.

    The rallies and vigils will occur in front of federal court buildings at noon Saturday in cities including Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia and New York.

  33. How did the juror get from 2nd degree Murder to Not Guilty?

    • Liza says:

      Good question. Why did three jurors in favor of conviction cave? And, if B37 was shooting her mouth off anything like she did on AC (and I suspect she was), then why didn’t at least one of them have the human decency to report her?

      What is wrong with these people?

    • Xena says:

      In her interview with Anderson Cooper, Juror B37 conveyed how she worked her witchcraft and took advantage of the sequestration. She turned focus on who she thought were the better witnesses. Also, rather than focus on the evidence presented by the State, she gave the Zimmerman playbook of excuses — excuses not given during testimony at trial, but those pandered in the media by Junior, Taaffe, and Osterman.

      • Liza says:

        I’m amazed that not even one of the five others stepped up to report her. What in the blazing hell did they think they were supposed to be doing on that jury? Were they all that weak, that cowardly that they could be intimidated by her?

        I know without question that if I were on a jury, any jury, even for the most trivial of offenses I would not tolerate that from another juror.

  34. Barb King says:

    I am a white Canadian woman in my sixties. I follow American news on CNN and therefore saw B37’s interview and have also been following the trial recently. My almost immediate reaction was that the juror is racist, especially when she said something like “this is how “THEY” live???? I am so saddened by the verdict and the state of the law in Florida. My reaction and the reaction of my family and friends has been disbelief and utter confusion. I don’t know what else to say. I feel so badly for Trayvon’s family…so much more but I don’t have words.

    • Ametia says:

      Hi Barb. I used to live in Toronto. You’ve said it all. Calling out racism and not allowing folks to get away with their behaviors, by not calling it what it is SPEAKS VOLUMES. Thank you!

  35. Selah is GONE! We’re not going to put up with foolishness.

  36. Ametia says:

    To Selah & every other racist POS, you’re not going to bring the bullshit here on 3 Chics. We get to decide who and what comes here and who and what stays and goes.


  37. Bernie de la Rionda tried twice to strike Juror B37 but Judge Nelson wouldn’t allow it b/c O’Mara made an argument about 4 white women being struck in a row for jury selection which was a silly argument b/c women way outnumbered men for jury selection.

    Juror B37 went in with an agenda to obstruct justice. She deceived the court by claiming she could keep an opened mind. She LIED! The prosecution was boomed before the trial began.

    JurorB37: That’s the way “they” live. WTF? Dog whistles all over the place.

  38. Ametia says:

    @Rik for Selah & the coonery


  39. Selah

    We’re just not going to put up with that nonsense. Take it somewhere else.

  40. rikyrah says:

    The Dignified, Silent Grief of Trayvon Martin’s Parents


  41. rikyrah says:

    Zimmerman Walks FREE: The Racism in The American Criminal Justice System


  42. rikyrah says:

    The Trayvon Martin Killing and the Myth of Black-on-Black Crime

    Crime is driven by proximity and opportunity, writes Jamelle Bouie—which is why 86 percent of white victims were killed by white offenders.
    by Jamelle Bouie Jul 15, 2013 4:45 AM EDT

    Last week, in Chicago, 16-year-old Darryl Green was found dead in the yard of an abandoned home. He was killed, relatives reported, because he refused to join a gang. Unlike most tragedies, however—which remain local news—this one caught the attention of conservative activist Ben Shapiro, an editor for Breitbart News. Using the hashtag “#justicefordarryl,” Shaprio tweeted and publicized the details of Green’s murder. But this wasn’t a call for help and assistance for Green’s family, rather, it was his response to wide outrage over Saturday’s decision in the case of George Zimmerman, where a Florida jury judged him “not guilty” of second-degree murder or manslaughter in the killing of Trayvon Martin.

    Shapiro, echoing many other conservatives, is angry over the perceived politicization of the Zimmerman trial, and believes that activists have ”injected” race into the discussion, as if there’s nothing racial already within the criminal-justice system. Indeed, he echoes many conservatives when he complains that media attention had everything to do with Zimmerman’s race. If he were black, the argument goes, no one would care. And so, Shapiro found the sad story of Darryl Green, and promoted it as an example of the “black-on-black” crime that, he believes, goes ignored. Or, as he tweets, “49% of murder victims are black men. 93% of those are killed by other blacks. Media don’t care. Obama doesn’t care. #JusticeForDarryl.”

    The idea that “black-on-black” crime is the real story in Martin’s killing isn’t a novel one. In addition to Shapiro, you’ll hear the argument from conservative African-American activists like Crystal White, as well as people outside the media, like Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O’Mara, who said that his client “never would have been charged with a crime” if he were black.

    (It’s worth noting, here, that Zimmerman wasn’t charged with a crime. At least, not at first. It took six weeks of protest and pressure for Sanford police to revisit the killing and bring charges against him. Indeed, in the beginning, Martin’s cause had less to do with the identity of the shooter and everything to do with the appalling disinterest of the local police department.)

    But there’s a huge problem with attempt to shift the conversation: There’s no such thing as “black-on-black” crime. Yes, from 1976 to 2005, 94 percent of black victims were killed by black offenders, but that racial exclusivity was also true for white victims of violent crime—86 percent were killed by white offenders. Indeed, for the large majority of crimes, you’ll find that victims and offenders share a racial identity, or have some prior relationship to each other.


  43. rikyrah says:

    Saturday 10:43pm

    The Zimmerman Jury Told Young Black Men What We Already Knew

    Tonight a Florida man’s acquittal for hunting and killing a black teenager who was armed with only a bag of candy serves as a Rorschach test for the American public. For conservatives, it’s a triumph of permissive gun laws and a victory over the liberal media, which had been unfairly rooting for the dead kid all along. For liberals, it’s a tragic and glaring example of the gaps that plague our criminal justice system. For people of color, it’s a vivid reminder that we must always be deferential to white people, or face the very real chance of getting killed.

    When I was junior in college in Virginia, my then-girlfriend and I decided one night to meet up for a quick snack while studying for midterms. We bought some sandwiches at a 24-hour deli and, rather than waste time going to either of our homes, which were in opposite directions, we decided to eat in her car in a parking lot near a fancy hotel off-campus. We were listening to music and laughing about something when I saw a security guard’s headlights in the rear view mirror, and I stopped laughing as I watched him—a white man in his mid-40s—walk up to my girlfriend’s door and ask her to step out of the car. “Uh, OK,” she said, clearly as confused as I was about what we’d done to warrant his attention.

    He walked her away from her car toward his, but they were close enough that I could hear their conversation. He asked her her name, a slight southern lilt lengthening his vowels. She told him. Then he said, “Are you OK? “

    “What do you mean?” she said.

    “Are you safe right now?” he asked again.

    My girlfriend was white. I am not.

    I leapt out of the car and screamed, “What the hell did you just ask her?” I wanted to see if he had the resolve to say it again, to me this time.


  44. Why Did They Let Her on the Zimmerman Jury?
    The strange, strange case of juror B37.


    Less than two days after a Florida jury found George Zimmerman not guilty in the death of Trayvon Martin, juror B37, one of the six members of the anonymous panel, signed with a literary agent to shop her book about the trial.

    The news comes with a bonus video: juror B37’s entire voir dire captured on film and promoted today by Gawker. The process by which counsel on each side of the case interviews prospective jurors is revealing in all kinds of ways, and a useful lesson in the strengths and weaknesses of the jury system. In the case of B37, it is also master class on how to not know anything about something everyone else knows about.

    Start with the general observations already raised in Gawker: B37 consumes no media beyond the Today Show—no radio, no Internet news and no newspapers used for anything but lining her parrot cage. Perhaps because she does not consume any media, she was under the false belief that there were “riots” after the Martin shooting. She also described the Martin killing as “an unfortunate incident that happened.”

  45. I hoping someone looks into jury tampering on B37.

  46. rikyrah says:

    Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka

    Juror B37 fondly refers to Trayvon Martin’s killer as “George” and will profit from a black child’s death. Think about that for a minute.

    8:07 PM – 15 Jul 2013

    • Ametia says:

      And she calle Trayvon: “THAT BOY.” It pained that BITCH to call him (TRAYVON) by his rightful name. She struggled through that interview to say “TRAYVON.” And when she finally did, it nearly killed her.

      • disappointed says:

        Maybe she is being eaten alive by guilt. Nah, she just can’t say his name. I am furious about the comment they should have walked away! WTF you dumb bitch Trayvon ran and the man you set free chased him down. I do not deal well with stupidity and let’s just it runs amok with her. I am mad enough to kick a tree over this verdict. WHY did they let him walk?

  47. leutisha says:

    I’m sorry, but the evidence was there – they chose to ignore it, based on influence of Juror B37. You might say that shit about Casey Anthony, because Caylee’s little body was too decomposed to determine her death – but George Zimmerman does NOT have that defense. Trayvon caught a bullet to his heart, and how in the hell can Zimmerman say he was in fear for his life when he ignored the instructions of the 911 operator, got out of his car and FOLLOWED Trayvon.

    Our country is DYSFUNCTIONAL, and you are delusional if you think the Court System works for EVERYONE, regardless of race, color, nationality, religious or national origin, LGBT status. The TRUE MATTER THAT CONTINUES TO PLAGUE THIS NATION IS THE MATTER OF RACE, and if you can’t see that, I’m wasting my time trying to explain it to someone like YOU.

    • Ametia says:

      It’s what white privilege does, Leutisha, blame any and everyone for their RACISM.

      It’s hellua drug, and it’s only contagious when folks buy into it.

  48. rikyrah says:

    Black boys denied the right to be young
    By Eugene Robinson

    Justice failed Trayvon Martin the night he was killed. We should be appalled and outraged, but perhaps not surprised, that it failed him again Saturday night, with a verdict setting his killer free.

    Our society considers young black men to be dangerous, interchangeable, expendable, guilty until proven innocent. This is the conversation about race that we desperately need to have — but probably, as in the past, will try our best to avoid.

    George Zimmerman’s acquittal was set in motion on Feb. 26, 2012, before Martin’s body was cold. When Sanford, Fla., police arrived on the scene, they encountered a grown man who acknowledged killing an unarmed 17-year-old boy. They did not arrest the man or test him for drug or alcohol use. They conducted a less-than-energetic search for forensic evidence. They hardly bothered to look for witnesses.

    Only a national outcry forced authorities to investigate the killing seriously. Even after six weeks, evidence was found to justify arresting Zimmerman, charging him with second-degree murder and putting him on trial. But the chance of dispassionately and definitively establishing what happened that night was probably lost. The only complete narrative of what transpired was Zimmerman’s.


  49. rikyrah says:

    Here’s The Story Of The Twitter Hero Who Single-Handedly Killed Zimmerman Juror B-37’s Book Deal

    A lot has been made about the controversial Zimmerman Trial Juror B37. First she appeared on Anderson Cooper and made comments expressing sympathy and support for Zimmerman. But she really sparked an outrage by announcing — fewer than 48 hours after George Zimmerman was declared Not Guilty — that she’d signed a book deal.

    Well, one passionate person on Twitter who goes by @MoreandAgain took things into her own hands. First, she sought out the publishing company that signed the juror…

    Then she spread the publisher’s information across Twitter so people could call and email, telling them to stop the book deal from coming to fruition…

    She quickly whipped up a Change.org petition calling for literary agent Sharlene Martin to drop Juror B37. Within minutes, the petition had more than a thousand supporters. Martin eventually caved and released this statement:

    “After careful consideration regarding the proposed book project with Zimmerman Juror B37, I have decided to rescind my offer of representation in the exploration of a book based upon this case.”


    • leutisha says:

      She and her lawyer husband better be ready to pay up to Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton. That law that says no one should profit from tragedy should apply here.

    • leutisha says:

      LMAO – that heifer should be brought up on charges of tampering with the jury, or at least, committing perjury when she was asked if she could be an OBJECTIVE witness.

      I’ll bet if the other jurors are interviewed, they’re going to say this bitch beat them down into casting that verdict. Shit, I wish this was an episode of Law and Order, because someone in the DA’s office would figure out how to bring Zimmerman’s fat ass back to trial – or at least send Juror B37’s ass to jail for lying to the court and jury nullification.

      • Ametia says:

        B37 prolly told the rest of these ladies, if ya’ll go with the “NOT GUILTY,” I’ll give you a cut from my book sales. If she was the ring leader of this jury, just imagine how bright the rest of these women are. SMGDH

    • Ametia says:


  50. Ametia says:





  51. tatas says:

    So pissed right now. Sounds like this bitch b37 made it her personal mission to bring the dissenting jurors to her side. She tried to imply that Rachel was dumb and yet whined about how confusing the laws were, and didn’t seem to really understand the judge’s instructions. I have a hard time believing this person was smart to make a decision solely based on laws she admit to not not understanding. So her decison must have been based on something else, and damn sure not common sense or right and wrong.vThe fact that some were looking to find GZ guilty of “something” indicates that this rotten ho knows he is guilty of wrong doing. By her own admission GZ used poor judgement. Isn’t breaking tje law or commiting a crime essentially using poor judgement?

    • Ametia says:

      Hi tatas. Taht bitch B37 spewed every racially charged stereotype she had in her arsenal. It’s embedded in her DNA, that’s how deep it goes. Sheer ignorance and bigotry, which makes her the UNEDUCATED AND INEPT fool. All these WHITE women on that jury really had was the protection of the complexion.

    • Xena says:

      @tatas. Juror B37 came into deliberations with a decision already made that Zimmerman was not guilty. She whines about the law and jury instructions being confusing, because it served her purpose to get the rest of the jury convinced that they were too confusing for them to understand.

      Think about it — what is the pitch of White Supremacists? That Blacks are not intelligent enough to learn and adapt to “White America.” It’s the same pitch, only worked by Juror B37 in the jury room.

  52. rikyrah says:


    thank you so much for this post

  53. rikyrah says:

    I couldn’t watch that bytch juror last night.

    quite frankly, I didn’t even want to be online.

    but, I followed you all on my tablet, and I want to thank you all for giving me the blow by blow.

    I watched HGTV all last night. …had to calm the nerves.

  54. rikyrah says:

    How @MoreAndAgain Got Juror B-37′s Literary Agent to Drop Her

    July 16, 2013

    This has been a beautiful day. No less than ten minutes after I finished writing my Open Letter to Juror B-37 to help cure my rage and disappointment after watching her disgusting interview on Anderson Cooper’s AC360, I went back on Twitter and learned from @LoveMySkip that Juror B-37 needed to look for a new agent!

    How did this happen? Genie Lauren aka @MoreAndAgain did it! She created a Change.org petition online and then advertised it on Twitter. The rest is history!


  55. rikyrah says:

    I don’t know and don’t care if you’re Black….

    Ametia, SG2…

    where’s that cooning graphic?

  56. Liza says:

    Where’s that troll spray?

  57. damon says:

    Those 3 jurors had it in their minds no matter what. gz could have testified that he intentional killed TM and they would have still let him walk,she can not hide it because her speech is given her away,now what needs to happen they need to let her keep talking and she will slip up and let the cat out the bag,she will eventually tell somebody what she thinks she can trust with her real feelings by saying that she was not going to let a white skinned man go to jail for killing a black man.

  58. pinkposhbgosh💗 says:

    I missed the first interview & could only stomach about 4 minutes of part 2 but did anyone notice how B37 kept referring to Zimmerman as George?

    Of course her defense attorney husband knew Zimmerman’s defense team as well as had crossed paths with Zimmerman’s father before he retired…

    • leutisha says:

      Which meant she lied to the court to get on that jury during voir dire, and she should be punished for that alone. The most would have been a hung jury – now everyone and their mother knows this shit was RIGGED.

      Holder better come through with more than an investigation – charge Zimmerman in Federal Court for violating Trayvon Martin’s Civil Rights. Just like the Federal Government got the LAPD cops who beat Rodney King back in 1992 – since the jurors in Simi Valley saw fit to let those bastards walk, even after seeing that video where Rodney had several six-packs of whip-ass broken out on him, which was filmed by a white guy. They get Zimmerman’s fat ass in front of the Federal Court – there won’t be any jurors like B37, because the Feds won’t play that shit and that sort of jury nullification on purpose, gets a juror who’s involved some serious jail time.

  59. Xena says:


    We do not convict on emotion.

    Clearly demonstrated in her interview with Anderson Cooper, Juror B37 reached her decision that George Zimmerman is not guilty of committing any crime based on her emotions.

    If an emotional standard is not allowed in order to reach a verdict, apply it to juror B37.

  60. Xena

    This thread is dope! You did the damn thing! Werk it!

    • Xena says:

      @SG2. Just published another post with an accompanying video. Juror B37’s interview clearly reveals that fair and impartial justice was not served by the Zimmerman jury. If the foreperson of the jury cannot write a sentence asking a specific question on the charge of manslaughter, then the last person juror B37 should criticize for lack of education and inability to communicate should be Rachel Jeantel.

  61. Twitter



    • Xena says:

      Alright, alright.

    • Liza says:

      Yesterday I didn’t think it was a good idea for Anderson Cooper to give B37 a national stage because she so clearly was trying to turn this into cash. But now I see that having solid evidence that the jury was corrupt and having it this soon is better than not having proof. Perhaps now all those “legal” bloggers who wrote about the jury “reaching the right decision” based on the law will sit down and STFU for awhile because they spoke too soon.

      • Ametia says:

        Hello, Liza. THIS:
        Perhaps now all those “legal” bloggers who wrote about the jury “reaching the right decision” based on the law will sit down and STFU for awhile because they spoke too soon.”


        • Xena says:

          It’s the same Florida statute that applied in the Trevor Dooley case. The Dooley case has some of the same elements as Zimmerman’s case, but the jury in the Dooley case convicted him. The Dooley jury began with point one — Dooley leaving his garage with a loaded gun to approach David James. Juror B37 manipulated the jury to focus on the middle and the end, rather than focusing on the initial aggressor requirement that established whether self-defense applies.

      • rikyrah says:

        Coates – who was too chicken to leave his comments open

      • leutisha says:

        Been through with Ta-Nehesi ever since he attacked Jack and Jill Politics for reporting on the Black Blogging summit at the White House three years ago; he was straight up hating because his black ass wasn’t invited.

      • Morning, Liza!

        Anderson Cooper just let her talk. We heard it straight from her own stupid mouth!

      • Liza says:

        Good morning, y’all. Yeah, I was so disappointed by Ta-nehisi Coates. I was looking forward to reading what he had to say about the verdict but, for some reason, he decided to be an echo chamber for Andrew Cohen. People are on fire right now after what this juror revealed. There’s going to be some good writing but I guess not by TNC.

  62. Zimmerman Juror Decides Not To Write Book About Trial


    Intense and immediate backlash apparently changed the mind of Juror B37 — and her agent. “I have realized that the best direction for me to go is away from writing any sort of book and return instead to my life as it was before …”

    Late Monday night, Sharlene Martin of Martin Literary Management LLC told BuzzFeed that Juror B37 will no longer pursue a book deal.

    The juror’s statement, via Martin:

    “I realize it was necessary for our jury to be sequestered in order to protest our verdict from unfair outside influence, but that isolation shielded me from the depth of pain that exists among the general public over every aspect of this case. The potential book was always intended to be a respectful observation of the trial from my and my husband’s perspectives solely and it was to be an observation that our ‘system’ of justice can get so complicated that it creates a conflict with our spirit’ of justice.

    Now that I am returned to my family and to society in general, I have realized that the best direction for me to go is away from writing any sort of book and return instead to my life as it was before I was called to sit on this jury.”

  63. Transcript from the Juror B37 interview with Anderson Cooper


  64. OMG! These jurors asked a question about manslaughter and then said..”it’s just too hard” so “Not Guilty”!

    • Liza says:

      A murdered child, mass protests just to get the killer arrested and tried, a mountain of suffering and pain for Trayvon’s family, and it all came down to that? It’s just too hard? God help us.

  65. Ms.X says:

    My prayer is that the DOJ can & will press charges. I don’t have any faith that they will. I think they want this 2 go away & 4 us 2 accept it & get over it, the sooner the better. Still I’ glad all this stuff I suspected is coming 2 light. It seems like almost every1 was in on it. I never trusted it from the beginning.

  66. Please, for the Mercy of God…investigate this jury NOW! IF not the justice system is no more.

    • Ametia says:

      B#& about Rachel: “This is how they live.” Rachel held it together when Piers showed the clip of this bitch trying to diss Jeantel. Just racist to the core, it’s embedded deep in that crackas DNA.

  67. B37 considered Serino’s testimony that Zimmerman was telling the truth was stricken from the record.
    The woman DOESN’T understand what STRIKEN from the record means. OMFG! How DID that SHEER IGNORANT woman get on the jury? How the fuck DID that happen?

    • Ametia says:

      SG2; now I’m wondering about the OUTSIDE contact some or all of these jurors were exposed to. Where they allowed cell phones? I know they were instructed not to tweet or use other forms of social meda. But what does that matter; she just admitted that Serino’s testimony helped her.

    • leutisha says:

      Her hubby is a lawyer who used to play golf with Zimmerman’s pappy. You connect the dots, SG2

  68. Xena,

    Big up! I’m going to tweet until my fingers bleed. Off to drop links everywhere!

  69. Xena says:

    Lord, I so hope that someone in authority in Florida investigates to finds the connection between Juror B37 and Junior, Taaffe, Osterman, and/or GZ. Her husband is a lawyer and might have represented Taaffe in any of his numerous cases, criminal and/or civil.

    • Ametia says:

      Xena, I hope so too. This whole TRIAL STINKS to high heaven. And the more that comes out, the more nauseating and descpicalbe the players are revealing themselves.

    • OMG! This witch brought up SYG law? WTFF? This case had NOTHING to do with SYG!

      • Ametia says:

        These jurors were coached. They already had their minds made up. And it’s probably likely that they’ve already got their manuscripts written. Just absolutely disgusting!

      • disappointed says:

        Exactly it was a STAY IN YOUR CAR case. Stupid stupid stupid. I hoped those 6 white women were like me, but apparently they were not. Just stupid, easily influenced and blaming the real victim Trayvon Benjamin Martin.

  70. i just wanna cry. i cant believe how cold she is

    • Xena says:

      @shannoninmiami. HEY!!! Good to see you. Juror B37 has the classic White Supremacist attitude. Since she thinks that 7 p.m. is late, she must also believe that Florida has a sundown curfew for Black males.

      • Ametia says:

        “That boy” is what B37 called Trayvon Martin. He doesn’t have a name, he meant nothing to those women. They FAKED outrage and sorrow in the courtroom. Did they draw on their inherit racist fears? YES, YOU BETCHA!

      • her attitude was obvious from the tone in her voice and the first words out of her mouth. it’s sickening.

      • bettykath says:

        White privilege oozes from her mouth. White supremacist, yes. She hasn’t a clue as to how bigoted she is.

    • B37 was racial profiling sitting on the jury. You can’t make this ISH up! It’s freaking JAW DROPPING!

      • they need to get a hold of AC’s entire interview she must’ve let more misdeeds out, i mean her sheer stupidity can NOT be more obvious! and god you know omar and west made sure no black ppl on, hand picked racist bigots.

    • disappointed says:

      I read your comments at main stream fair. I totally agree and never comment there. She has been a fogen lover since the beginning. She always blamed the victim. I read a lot of Marinade Dave’s old post and she commented there. I won’t even read at his blog any more because it came across as he let her spew racist views jmo.

      • I didn’t even realize until now. Bet that’s why she didn’t comment on Leatherman. And I’ve never read Daves Bc of how he keep giving NastyTaffee so much respect. I’m so sick of the rampant racism, I’m liable to really go off on someone in person if I see it. But that moron MainStreet is one of those self righteous and so snotty she doesn’t even have the guts to come right out and say what she’s thinking. I hate that kind more than TAFFEE Bc she’s able to hide in plain sight. most ppl wouldn’t call her out bc she acts too passive, they might think she’s stupid and doesn’t realize what she’s saying. But you can see it in what she doesn’t say. In stead of sympathy for Trayvon she’ll say shit like ‘I’ll pray for him” or “we weren’t there so we don’t know what he thought” but in the same breath say if you wanna blame someone blame the state for over charging. She’s a real tool if she thinks M2 was an OVERCHARGE, when we do in fact know exactly WHAT Zim said abt Tray during his NEN call. That’s just another example of a bitch not giving value to a child’s fears and ultimate violent death by a POS little creepy ass cracker w a chip on his tiny insignificant worthless shoulder!

  71. Ametia says:

    Listening to B37, that jury did not follow Judge Nelson’s instructions on how to deliberate and come to their verdict.

    • Ametia says:

      AC asks her whether it made any impact on her when police officer Chris Serino testified that he thought Z was being truthful?

      Her response? “It did. It made a BIG impact.”

      Judge Nelson asked the jury to IGNORE Serino’s teistimony

      • Xena says:

        @Ametia. EXCELLENT CATCH. I’m going to find that along with a tape or transcript of Cooper’s program and put it on video.

  72. blushedbrown says:

    Unfreakin real!

  73. CarolMaeWY says:

    I turned on CNN and all I seen was Anderson signing off and there would be more of the interview in his next show tonight. 10 MDT. Set TV to record. This is not the way the justice system works. Piers has Rachel J on next.

  74. GrannyStandingforTruth says:

    Thank God for tapes and transcripts. Yes, she cried because she know she was wrong. Conscience kicking that azz now!

  75. CarolMaeWY says:

    I’m just reading this. She is married to a lawyer and she’s spilling the beans? I thought the jurors took an oath to listen to the evidence in this trial? I’m baffled. Do we now know who she is?

  76. Pat says:

    This should be investigated because Frank Taafe was on TV prior to the verdict being read, stating that it was 5 to 1. This juror confirms what he said.

  77. GrannyStandingforTruth says:

    She has no doubt that Zimmerman the man with a gun feared for his life. But an unarmed black child did not fear for his life. Okay, so in her mind Trayvon is Superboy and bullet proof? Is she stupid or what?

  78. Ametia says:

    This boy; that bitch won’t even call Trayvon by his name.

  79. Xena says:

    Presently watching B37’s interview with Anderson Cooper. Her position is straight out of the Zimmerman playbook, including things that were not said during trial.

    I like the look on Cooper’s face. He is baiting her to spill the beans.

    • GrannyStandingforTruth says:

      She so anxious to make a buck that she doesn’t realize that she is spilling the beans. I’m loving it.

    • Ametia says:

      That bitch is talking about SYG. That wasn’t the charge.

    • planrgal says:


      Exactly right…I think that is EXACTLY what Anderson was doing…and I will guarantee that this person had her mind made up before she was even sworn in as a juror…and had the plan re the book deal in the back of her mind, too…nauseating…

      And if she couldn’t understand Rachel’s testimony at times, why didn’t she simply ask to have it read back? (as a court reporter, testimony is read back all the time…)
      Probably because she had already discounted this young woman’s testimony…and she was the first witness.

      Beyond appalling…

      • Xena says:

        I just took a look at the Harry Aleman case where he was tried twice for the same crime. The court ruled that if evidence is shown that an act of bribery took place between the defendant and the judge, the defendant can be retried again for the same crime and it would not be considered double jeopardy. “This is because the defendant was never in jeopardy to begin with.”

        It does not apply to fraud among the jury. However, going back to what the literary agent said; i.e., that the jury reached its verdict of not guilty due to the matter in which Zimmerman was charged, it speaks volumes. Juror B37 is the one who referred to peaceful rallies as “riots” and said she thought they were “overdone.” Apparently, she is of the belief that Zimmerman was arrested due to the public outcry, rather that SA Corey’s investigation.

        Believing that Zimmerman should not have been charged is the same as saying the defendant was never in jeopardy to begin with. The only challenge to that, that I can see, is O’Mara arguing that he had no guarantee that juror B37 could persuade the other 5 members of the jury.

        To that, I say something went wrong because when there is a question from the jury to clarify manslaughter; the court requests a more specific question, and the foreperson fails to provide that and the jury enters a verdict of not guilty, it indicates that persuasion was definitely used to sway the “holdout” juror.

  80. rikyrah says:

    uh huh

    uh huh

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