Wednesday Open Thread | No More Defenses for the Deplorables

How Many Damn Defenses of That Basket of Deplorables Do We Need?
Michael Arceneaux

Last November, a majority of white people in America voted for a bigot for president. If you voted for a man who campaigned on xenophobia, racism, sexism and other strains of bigotry, you either share his prejudices or you are complicit in them. The former makes you an audacious racist; the latter, a bystander, which in and of itself is a racist act. Nothing about that reality has changed since Habanero Hitler was declared the winner of the 2016 presidential election or officially sworn in to office.

But in senseless fashion, some continue to advocate on behalf of the big basket of deplorables responsible for the ongoing mess that is the 45th president of the United States. Only a week ago, I asked how many more of these disingenuous and intellectually dishonest diatribes will we collectively be subjected to? The New York Times swiftly flew in with an answer: to infinity and fucking beyond.

In the news analysis “Are Liberals Helping Trump?” Sabrina Tavernise, a national correspondent for the Times, echoes all of the greatest hits associated with any defense of 45’s supporters.

First, there is the introduction of the 45 voter, who in this case is Jeffrey Medford, “a small-business owner in South Carolina” who apparently “voted reluctantly for Donald Trump.” Next we get his rationale for helping to elect a monster who is presently trying to reintroduce a travel ban aimed at people from primarily Muslim countries while stripping protection of transgender children in public schools. For Medford, it was the sentiment that “as a conservative, he felt the need to choose the Republican.”

Then comes the bullshit: the idea that assigning culpability is cruel and unjust, not to mention the cries of victimhood.

I am with this article.

I don’t want to hear it.

I don’t care.

And, the MSM needs to stop writing about these people, like we’re supposed to ‘ understand’ them.


They are so used to our side of aisle, ‘ understanding’ things.

They continue to refuse that the paradigm has changed.

I’ll say it again.

This is NOT 2000.

This isn’t even 2004, After Dubya lied us into two wars.

This is ‘electing’ that man, after 8 years of obstruction, and disrespect of probably the best President we will see in several generations.

We don’t care why they voted for him.
The fact is..they voted for him.
He never hid behind dogwhistles.
His hatred of Mexicans. Blacks. Muslims. His disrespect of women. His ignorance, and fanning of the flames of racist hatred.
They were all obvious and there to see.

IF you voted for him..that condemns YOUR LACK OF CHARACTER.
And, NO, I don’t have to forgive or understand it. I can condemn you for it. And, never get past it.

ALL that’s at stake now? All that’s at risk, in terms of what we believe our country should be, and the American Safety Net that should never be in jeopardy, but IS because your vote?

Why should I understand, or have sympathy for you, when you CHOSE to vote for those that would harm me and mine?

No. Go somewhere and sit down. Nobody wants to hear from you. No explanation necessary. You showed who you were on November 8th.

Don’t whine if there is an appropriate response.

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50 Responses to Wednesday Open Thread | No More Defenses for the Deplorables

  1. rikyrah says:

    From BJ:

    Yarrow says:

    March 1, 2017 at 10:54 pm

    Reposting from downstairs:

    This Sessions and Russia stuff. I said last night that the Intelligence
    Community would let some juicy tidbit drop today or tomorrow. And there
    it is! Our IC is coming for them. The IC can’t do their jobs properly
    because of Trump and this administration. They can’t keep us safe. These
    leaks are them working to keep us safe. Get rid of the Russian agents
    and other traitors.

  2. rikyrah says:

    told you….

    the International IC community has been handing over stuff to The Spooks

    American allies, including the British and the Dutch, had provided information describing meetings in European cities between Russian officials — and others close to Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin — and associates of President-elect Trump, according to three former American officials who requested anonymity in discussing classified intelligence. Separately, American intelligence agencies had intercepted communications of Russian officials, some of them within the Kremlin, discussing contacts with Trump associates.

  3. rikyrah says:

    Michael Weiss‏Verified account
    @ michaeldweiss
    Evan Perez just said it on CNN, so I suppose I can here: Kislyak wasn’t just ambassador, he was Russia’s “top spy recruiter” in D.C.: SVR.

  4. rikyrah says:

    Thank you SG2 for doing the breaking news post

  5. Sessions making plans for black people but the Scripture says..

    Proverbs 26:27 If you set a trap for others, you will get caught in it yourself.

    • Ametia says:

      Been out of pocket for hours, and come back to this news. GOD.DON.T.LIKE.UGLY


      PBO been on vacation, sitting back going UMMM HMMMM LOL

  6. rikyrah says:


    Beau Biden’s widow having affair with his married brother

    The widow of Joe Biden‘s late son Beau Biden has started a romantic relationship with her former brother-in-law, Hunter Biden, the former Vice President’s younger son.

    Hallie Biden, who was devastated when her husband Beau died after suffering from brain cancer in May 2015, is now officially a couple with Hunter, 47, who has separated from his wife Kathleen.

    The astonishing family drama caps a difficult period for the Bidens following the death of Beau at age 46. The former Vice President cited the death of his eldest son as one of the reasons he didn’t feel ready to run for president against Donald Trump.

    Hunter Biden, a lawyer who has three daughters with his estranged wife Kathleen, told Page Six in an exclusive statement, “Hallie and I are incredibly lucky to have found the love and support we have for each other in such a difficult time, and that’s been obvious to the people who love us most. We’ve been so lucky to have family and friends who have supported us every step of the way.”

    Former Vice President Joe Biden added that he and his wife Dr. Jill Biden have given their blessing to the relationship. He said, “We are all lucky that Hunter and Hallie found each other as they were putting their lives together again after such sadness. They have mine and Jill’s full and complete support and we are happy for them.”

    Beau, the former state attorney general of Delaware who served in Iraq as a major in the Delaware Army National Guard, and Hallie have two children, named Natalie and Hunter.

    A source told us that Hunter and his wife Kathleen separated in October 2015, five months after the death of Beau. Kathleen, the chairwoman of the Eleanor Roosevelt Dialogue, didn’t comment.

  7. rikyrah says:

    Republicans Hide New Obamacare Draft Under Shroud of Secrecy
    by Billy House
    and Arit John
    March 1, 2017, 4:03 PM CST March 1, 2017, 4:24 PM CST

    House Republican leaders have a new version of their major Obamacare repeal and replacement bill. They just don’t want you to see it.

    The document is being treated a bit like a top-secret surveillance intercept. It is expected to be available to members and staffers on the House Energy and Commerce panel starting Thursday, but only in a dedicated reading room, one Republican lawmaker and a committee aide said. Nobody will be given copies to take with them.

    The unusual secrecy is a reflection of the sensitivity — and the stakes — surrounding the GOP effort to rewrite the Affordable Care Act, a top priority of President Donald Trump, who has yet to offer his own plan.

    Republican leaders are trying to avoid a repeat of what happened last time. When an outdated draft leaked last week, it was quickly panned by conservatives.

    “The draft of it is going to be available tomorrow for those of us on the health subcommittee to start poring through,” said Representative Chris Collins of New York, a Trump ally and member of the health subcommittee of Energy and Commerce. “Unfortunately for you, we’re making sure it won’t be leaked.”

    “We’re not having a hearing or anything,” added Gus Bilirakis of Florida, another panel member. “But there’ll be a place for us to view it, the draft.”

    On Tuesday, House Speaker Paul Ryan said the bill is being handled under normal legislative procedures.

    “We’re not hatching some bill in a backroom and plopping it on the American people’s front door,” he said on NBC’s “Today” show.
    No Score

    Collins said the panel may try to mark up the bill next week, but it hasn’t been processed yet by the Congressional Budget Office, which will provide a “score” on its cost, as well as an estimate of how many people the plan will insure. That score is critical to the debate, because the GOP plan is expected to provide coverage for significantly fewer people than Obamacare.

    “It looks like, unfortunately, based on the delays, we may be marking it up and voting on it before we have a score,” Collins said.

    The committee has made no final decisions on timing for any markup, said a Republican committee aide who didn’t want to be identified.

    Moving ahead without a CBO score could be a problem for some members, particularly conservatives, who are worried that leaders might end up replacing Obamacare with something of a similar cost.

  8. rikyrah says:

    John Fugelsang‏Verified account @JohnFugelsang

    “Obama divided us by race” just sounds better than “Obama really upset all the racists.”

  9. Liza says:

    Accountants involved in Oscar flub won’t work Oscars again
    The president of the film academy says the two accountants responsible for the best-picture flub at Sunday’s Academy Awards will never work the Oscars again.

    Cheryl Boone Isaacs said Wednesday that Brian Cullinan, the PwC representative responsible for handing over the errant envelope that led to La La Land mistakenly being announced as best picture rather than Moonlight, was distracted backstage. He tweeted (and later deleted) a photo of Emma Stone in the wings with her new Oscar minutes before giving presenters Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway the wrong envelope for best picture.

    Cullinan and his colleague, Martha Ruiz, have been permanently removed from all film academy dealings, Boone Isaacs said.

    The academy president broke her silence four days after the biggest blunder in the 89-year history of the Academy Awards. She told The Associated Press that the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences’ relationship with PwC, which has been responsible for tallying and revealing Oscar winners for 83 years, remains under review.

  10. rikyrah says:

    There’s no reason for style to triumph over substance
    03/01/17 02:43 PM
    By Steve Benen
    NBC News’ Chuck Todd recently gave Politico an interesting tidbit about Donald Trump. During the campaign, after his “Meet the Press” appearances, the Republican would request that the control room replay the interview for him – on mute.

    “Then there’s the amount of time he spends after the interview is over, with the sound off,” Todd said of Trump. “He wants to see what it all looked like.”

    The insight tells us something important about the president’s priorities: as far as Trump is concerned, what he says is less important than how he looked while saying it. Substance is fine, as far as it goes, but style is the real priority.

    As coverage of the president’s address to Congress continues, it’s hard not to wonder just how many pundits feel the exact same way.

    The Washington Post’s Robert Costa noted this morning that White House officials were “frankly surprised” this morning at pundits’ praise for Trump’s speech. The reporter’s sources said the president’s agenda “has not changed,” and there’s “no big shift in policy coming.”

  11. rikyrah says:

    Morale at State Department at Rock Bottom
    by Martin Longman
    March 1, 2017 2:33 PM

    Here’s how things look from inside the State Department:

    “This is probably what it felt like to be a British foreign service officer after World War II, when you realize, no, the sun actually does set on your empire,” said the mid-level officer. “America is over. And being part of that, when it’s happening for no reason, is traumatic.”

    Do you want another perspective?

    “I used to love my job,” she said. “Now, it feels like coming to the hospital to take care of a terminally ill family member. You come in every day, you bring flowers, you brush their hair, paint their nails, even though you know there’s no point. But you do it out of love.”

    Those quotes come from an excellent piece Julia Ioffe just had published at The Atlantic.

  12. rikyrah says:

    Trump Won’t Be Filling Hundreds of Agency Jobs
    by Nancy LeTourneau
    February 28, 2017 2:24 PM

    In an interview with Fox News, Trump said he’s been hit for not filling about 1,200 administration jobs that require Senate confirmation, but people don’t understand that he’s not trying to fill many of those jobs.

    “A lot of those jobs, I don’t want to appoint someone because they’re unnecessary to have,” Trump said. “In government, we have too many people.”

    A lot of publications have been reporting that, while Trump complains about the Democrats delaying confirmation of his cabinet picks, there are hundreds of positions where the administration hasn’t even offered a nominee. In this interview, the president admitted that he’s not planning to do so.

    That is an important admission as it reflects on both Trump and his so-called “shadow president,” Steve Bannon. As we’ve already noted, in his speech at CPAC, Bannon suggested that one of his main goals was the deconstruction of the administrative state. Leaving important policy positions open is step one in that process. Of course, that also leads to the kind of incompetence and chaos that we’ve already witnessed from this White House. But for Bannon, that is more likely a feature than a bug.

    When it comes to the president himself, this move reflects on what others have described as his management style (or lack of one). Drawing from those who either worked for Trump or wrote about his business dealings, Michael Kruse says:

    Trump’s company, despite his grandiose portrayals of a sprawling empire, always at base was a mom-and-pop entity, and what Trump managed throughout his lengthy professional career was principally a core group of barely more than a dozen executives housed on the 26th floor of Trump Tower…

    Trump has managed in the Oval Office in Washington pretty much exactly the way he managed on Fifth Avenue in New York…In recent interviews, they recounted a shrewd, slipshod, charming, vengeful, thin-skinned, belligerent, hard-charging manager who was an impulsive hirer and a reluctant firer and surrounded himself with a small cadre of ardent loyalists; who solicited their advice but almost always ultimately went with his gut and did what he wanted; who kept his door open and expected others to do the same not because of a desire for transparency but due to his own insecurities and distrusting disposition; who fostered a frenetic, internally competitive, around-the-clock, stressful, wearying work environment in which he was a demanding, disorienting mixture of hands-on and hands-off—a hesitant delegator and an intermittent micromanager who favored fast-twitch wins over long-term follow-through, promotion over process and intuition over deliberation.

    Trump biographer Tim O’Brien summed it all up by saying, ““He’s not a great manager. He’s a performance artist pretending to be a great manager.”

  13. rikyrah says:

    Extended Senate Delays Leave a Rural State Voiceless
    by Peregrine Frissell
    February 28, 2017 6:30 PM

    Obstructionism is the norm in Congress, and one minor ripple of continued deadlock is disproportionately being felt in Montana. As Senate Democrats do everything in their power to delay confirmation of Trump’s Cabinet picks, a fraught political debate is surfacing in the Big Sky State: Should sitting members of Congress awaiting approval for Cabinet roles still cast their votes?

    Congressman Ryan Zinke, Montana’s lone representative and Trump’s pick for interior secretary, missed 87 percent of his votes between his re-election in November and mid-February, according to a report by Montana Public Radio. (Trump chose him for the position in early December.) Last year, Zinke missed just 2.7 percent of his votes, just barely above the median for members of the House.

    An absence like Zinke’s may garner less vitriol in some states, but rural states with miniscule populations — Montana has just over a million residents — face to lose their entire voice in the House of Representatives as long, drawn-out political fights delay key confirmation hearings. Zinke hasn’t indicated why he has shirked his congressional duties, though Reps. Mike Pompeo, Tom Price, and Mick Mulvaney also were nominated for Trump’s Cabinet and have similarly abstained from voting. Zinke’s office did not return a request for comment from the Monthly.

    Where’s #Zinke? House had 5 votes yesterday dealing w/ #publiclands & #education. Once again, @RepRyanZinke did not vote. #MTPol #MTNews

    — Matthew Koehler (@KoehlerMatthew) February 8, 2017

  14. Ametia says:
  15. Ametia says:

    The God-King Spews White Power on Congress
    Posted by The BPI Squirrel | Mar 1, 2017

    Last night the God-King gave Congress a big ol’ White Power salute…. (More)

    “Trump likes to use anecdotes as evidence”

    “But-but-but Squirrel!” some wingnut somewhere howls, “This wasn’t a white power speech. Didn’t you hear him open with a call for civil rights!”

    Actually no, I didn’t hear that, because I didn’t watch the speech. I have better ways to get indigestion. But I read it this morning, and it’s true that he started with a fillip to unity:

    Tonight, as we mark the conclusion of our celebration of Black History Month, we are reminded of our nation’s path toward civil rights and the work that still remains. Recent threats targeting Jewish Community Centers and vandalism of Jewish cemeteries, as well as last week’s shooting in Kansas City, remind us that while we may be a nation divided on policies, we are a country that stands united in condemning hate and evil in all its forms.

    Except this was the God-King’s first mention of the murder of an Indian immigrant by a white supremacist last week in Kansas City. Like the murders at Quebec mosque by a white supremacist last month, the God-King would rather no one noticed, or at least that no one blamed white supremacists. So he mentions them as briefly as possible, if at all. He gave the murder in Kansas City just nine words … and that’s if you include the linking phrase “as well as.”

  16. Liza says:

    India: Mourners Protest Trump at Funeral of Srinivas Kuchibhotla
    HEADLINES MAR 01, 2017

    In India, crowds of people protested against Donald Trump at the funeral of 32-year-old Srinivas Kuchibhotla, an aviation engineer who was shot and killed by a white man in Kansas last week. Navy veteran Adam Purinton reportedly yelled “Get out of my country!” before opening fire on Kuchibhotla and his friend, who was wounded. Purinton apparently thought the two Indian men were Iranian. Purinton is white. At the funeral in the southern Indian city of Hyderabad, mourners chanted “Down with Trump” and held up signs reading “Down with Racism.”

  17. Liza says:

    Of all the incredibly stupid statements being made by Trump et al, I think Betsy DeVos is winning so far this week.

    Betsy DeVos Ridiculed for Calling Historically Black Colleges “Pioneers” of “School Choice”
    HEADLINES MAR 01, 2017

    Education Secretary Betsy DeVos is facing backlash and ridicule after she claimed that historically black colleges and universities are an example of “school choice,” following a listening session at the White House Monday with the presidents and chancellors of these historically black colleges and universities, often known as HBCUs. In a statement, she wrote, “HBCUs are real pioneers when it comes to school choice. They are living proof that when more options are provided to students, they are afforded greater access and greater quality.” On Twitter, many ridiculed DeVos’s comments, saying they displayed a lack of historical context. HBCUs were established because black students were prohibited from attending public colleges and universities throughout much of the United States’s history. One Twitter user wrote, “Betsy DeVos said HBCUs were about school choice. As if white/colored water fountains were about beverage options.” Another user joked that it was as if DeVos had said, “Rosa Parks is a real pioneer when it comes to seat choice.”

  18. coach4divas says:

    Ok Ladies. Help me understand how I am supposed to find common ground with people who proved with their vote, they do not care whether I live or die? What is left to ‘understand’ about people who chose to support politicians touting policies that add to the suffering of MILLIONS of people with impunity? I have longed since left the church, but I see nothing that resembles Jesus or love or compassion or grace in supporting 45. And why am I supposed to grant them reasonable and compassionate empathy about their vote now that their shame has outed them, when they proved with their vote they don’t care about the pain of others unless they are white? I’m serious here. Please. Help me.

    • Ametia says:

      Hi Coach4divas. YOU.CAN.NOT.

      That would be like asking an AX MURDERER if you can sharpen his ax, before he chops you into little bitty pieces!

    • Liza says:

      The short answer is that there is no common ground. If we start from a place where we assume that human beings are basically good, and that this goodness can always be somehow accessed, and that humans will respond with compassion when confronted with another’s pain and suffering, then we will be disappointed more often than not. And from the perspective of governance, specifically democratic governance, we will fail to legislate policies that are based on equality and justice.

      But the good news is that until voter turnout = 100%, there are always more voters. People who were 16 and 17 in 2016 can vote in 2018. More of the older, conservative voters will be dead or institutionalized. Demographics in this country continue to shift away from a white majority, and, not all white people are Trump supporters.

      Trump should not be the president. He is the president because an unlikely set of events opened the back door and he got in. The challenge now is to preserve our democratic institutions so that we are ready for the elections in 2018 and 2020.

      There are more of us than of them. That is where we start, with that knowledge. And we will eventually prevail.

  19. rikyrah says:

    Contradicting his own team, Trump embraces ‘voodoo economics’
    02/28/17 02:19 PM—UPDATED 02/28/17 03:11 PM
    By Steve Benen

    Donald Trump’s budget director, Mick Mulvaney, briefed reporters yesterday on the White House’s new proposed budget, which as you’ve probably heard, seeks significant new spending on the military. Mulvaney said the $54 billion increase to existing defense spending is “one of the largest increases in history,” and it will be offset by cutting investments in everything else.

    “It’s the largest proposed reduction [to non-defense spending] since the early years of the Reagan administration,” Mulvaney added.

    And while the core idea will be the basis for a spirited debate, it’s worth pausing to note that the president this morning painted a very different picture of the administration’s budget plans. Reuters reported:

    President Donald Trump said he believes the extra $54 billion dollars he has proposed spending on the U.S. military will be offset by a stronger economy as well as cuts in other areas.

    “I think the money is going to come from a revved-up economy,” Trump said in a Fox News interview broadcast on Tuesday, hours before he was to address a joint session of Congress.

    “I mean you look at the kind of numbers we’re doing, we were probably GDP of a little more than 1 percent and if I can get that up to 3 or maybe more, we have a whole different ball game. It’s a whole different ball game.”

  20. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone😐😐😐

  21. #ICE bound a young Latino mother’s hands & feet and forcibly removed her from the hospital but Van Jones thinks the beast is presidential. He can go have a seat. I don’t want to look at his disgusting ASS again. He literally makes me ill. Disgusting groveling BlackAssFool.

  22. Van Jones

    Funny dangerous fight

  23. Good morning, all.

    • Ametia says:

      HUMP DAY! Tell the truth Rikyrah. SIT ALL THE WAY DOWN & GET ALL THE WAY BACK.

      STAY IN YOUR LANES, MOFOS. You built & voted for that.

      Now FUCK OFF.

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