Open Thread | So, There Was a Presidential Debate

There is going to be a Presidential Debate.
Just some predictions beforehand, and then, post debate, we will see how I did.
1. I don’t expect Chris Wallace to be anything other than the Fox right-wing clown 😠 that he is.
2. I expect nothing but lies from Dolt45.
3. I hope Joe Biden says malarkey at least once.😚

Outside of that, there should be a fact-checker there in real time.
Daniel Dale should get the job.




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47 Responses to Open Thread | So, There Was a Presidential Debate

  1. Liza says:

    Here’s a much needed cuteness break for y’all…

  2. Liza says:

    Hard to say. My guess is that he’s scared sh!tless and went to Walter Reed for the best treatment available.

    • eliihass says:

      We’ll see..

      Where there’s been endless lies, gaslighting, deflection at every turn, including to change damning and unfavorable news cycles, it becomes even harder to decipher the truth – if and when it’s (rarely) ever told..

      • Liza says:

        I don’t expect them to be honest about what is going on right now with Trump. If he dies, they can’t hide that too easily but aside from that, they’re just going to lie.

    • eliihass says:

      “…An upcoming book takes the mask off of First Lady Melania Trump by revealing that she’s jealous of Michelle Obama and just like her husband.

      According to Vanity Fair, a new book by Stephanie Winston Wolkoff spills the beans on Melania Trump..

      Take a conversation between Wolkoff and Melania about that infamous green jacket with “I really don’t care, do u?” scribbled across the back when the first lady toured a detention center holding children who had been separated from their parents at the U.S. border. Melania shrugged off the public firestorm around the sartorial choice—a common theme throughout the book.

      “I’m driving liberals crazy,” she told Wolkoff, according to the book. “You know what? They deserve it.”

      She added, “Did Michelle Obama go to the border? She never did. Show me the pictures!”

      While Trump and the right have been trying to sell Melania Trump as the new Jackie Kennedy, the truth is that she is much more like the current Donald Trump. The First Lady is a paranoid birther who is clearly jealous of Michelle Obama..”

  3. rikyrah says:


    If actually true, I have as much sympathy for them as he has had for the 200,000 dead because of his deliberate lies about COVID-19.😒😒

    • Liza says:

      I’ve tried to ignore this harpy because I’ve always felt she was the least of our problems and she could just simply be ignored.

      Not surprisingly, it turns out she’s really got a mouth on her and she is extremely offensive. And she lacked the intelligence to keep it under wraps while she was the so-called “First Lady.” Couldn’t even pretend to play the part.

      No class, no class at all. But it’s not like a decent human being would be attracted to Donald or Donald’s faux money and be his contract “wife”.

      These people are so disgusting, so repulsive, just so totally despicable.

      • eliihass says:

        As the world turns indeed..

        Stephanie Winston Wolkoff like the rest of the enablers, opportunists, sycophants, hangers-on central to this criminal enterprise, was a witting accomplice to this Orwellian farce..

        Until of course she like all the rest, was burned/thrown under the bus by the pair of pathological, slimy, callous creatures she actively tried to fluff-up, protect, elevate and masquerade, to bamboozle the American people..

        Stephanie Wolkoff was the ‘chief strategist’, brain & spinmeister behind the campaign to normalize/legitimize the Birther 3rd wife.. and the one to thank for the effort to repackage, reinvent, mainstream the shitty vacuous, gold-digging euro trash ..the goal was not to simply ‘elevate’ her, but specifically and obsessively, and as the only priority, to sell her as somehow “superior” to the Princeton and Harvard educated historic black First Lady..

        To demand for goldigger vapid birther 3rd wife, everything the historic black FLOTUS worked hard to earn… They wanted and demanded – even recruiting their MAGAts to demand for birther wife, the mainstream magazine covers that Mrs Obama got by first working on important initiatives, then partnering with said mags to promote the efforts on behalf of those being served and targeted… Birther 3rd wife and MAGAts didn’t care, demanding them instead as an automatic ‘right’..

        When the historic black couple are morally, intellectually superior, white supremacy rallies around their intellectually and morally inferior poster boy and his 3rd wife, to try to fluff and shine them up… to boost them.. And Wolkoff eagerly volunteered her services..

        Stephanie Wolkoff was supposed to help ‘mainstream’ her.. not only get her the mag covers she coveted … but demand that she be ‘amplified’, over the popular black First Lady.. Wolkoff was to sell her to the same mainstream media they hate and label ‘fake news’.. sell her to the audience beyond the FOX ‘news’ crowd, even as, and while the Birther 3rd wife’s own handpicked and closest White supremacist aide/spokeswoman, Stephanie Grisham, proud longtime Arizona deplorable, continued to facilitate the cultivation of and footsie-playing with the alt-right and neo-Nazi crowd that make up the bulk of their support/fandom..

        Ms. Wolkoff, a social climbing New Yorker and wannabe extraordinaire, who once worked for Anna Wintour as her gofer for Vogue’s Met gala, delivered operation clean-up the complicit Birther gold-digger’s image, by also focusing on appearing to distance her from her husband’s racism – even though she is in fact and remains unflinchingly party to and central to it..

        Stephanie Wolkoff was looking to help fluff-up the euro trash… forcibly/inorganically nab her some sort of lame ‘legacy’, starting with making her more ‘acceptable’…to the mainstream.. and to in their minds, ‘topple’ who they both viewed as ‘the competition’…the historic black FLOTUS… but importantly, for the express purpose of cultivating a mainstream ‘fandom’ to enable the future ‘monetizing’ as expressly detailed in her 2016 ‘defamation’ lawsuit, of the lying, grifting, vacuous, lazy euro trash gold-digger’s ill-gotten accidental gig..

        Wolkoff armed with a ‘government-issued’ phone, was also charged with reinventing and selling Birther 3rd wife to the New York elite and A-list celebrities that they desperately wanted to have around …just as they’d seen them flock to the Obamas …famous folk who didn’t want to be associated with the overt racist overtures the Trumps had been making to all manner of bigots, to get where they now undeservedly were… still, they wanted and demanded ‘real’ A-listers and Wolkoff went about trying to make it happen … but all they got instead were no-name z-listers …like Rachel Roy (former Mrs Damon Dash), who’d show up to closed press events..

        The 3rd Mrs Trump desperately craved/still craves a Vogue cover.. She wants everything the historic First Lady EARNED by dint of hard work.. more than anything, she desperately wants to be as popular as Mrs Obama; Like her husband is with President Obama, she’s completely obsessed with Mrs Obama… And the likes of Wolkoff had now convinced her that she was not only ‘better’ and ‘superior’ to the double Ivy League educated historic black FLOTUS, but that she ‘deserved’ everything and more..

        So Birther 3rd wife together with Stephanie Wolkoff got to work googling and studying every Michelle Obama video, speech, event, photograph… mimicking and replicating as many as they could, with the intent of ‘one-upping’ and throwing out deflection, gaslighting photo-ops …including those always populated with black kids as props, and explicitly instructed beforehand to ‘hug Mrs trump’… gaslighting to gloss over racist policies and the culture wars that they were simultaneously brazenly stoking..

        Wolkoff’s Operation normalizing and ‘winning hearts’ and vogue covers for the toxic, racist, vapid, vain, lying Birther gold-digger, pushed forward..

        Ms Wolkoff along with Birther 3rd wife, alt-right deplorable Stephanie Grisham, and the rest of the white supremacist ‘glam squad’ all desperate for her normalization so that they too could get their moment in the spotlight, and ultimately, to cash in…

        Then, ‘inaugural-gate’ happened.. $26 million dollars ‘disappeared’ into someone’s pocket.. ‘paid’ to Birther 3rd wife’s ‘bestie’ Wolkoff.. and to cover their tracks, Wolkoff was thrown under the bus.. ejected from her “advisor” gig, and made to turn in that government-issued cell phone..

        And as the tell-alls roll out.. albeit, incomplete in the actual telling of the extent and severity of the greed, racism, callousness and deeply disturbing psychopathy of the treasonous buffoon and the euro trash gold-digging kept woman turned 3rd wife who burrowed her way into his over-leveraged wallet and gaudy ‘gold’ tower..

        It is Paolo Zampolli, if told honestly, who holds the tell-all of tell-alls for this corrupt kkkrew..

        Oh the tales Paolo Zampolli can, and will tell someday! #Bestseller. Birther euro trash better stay sucking up to him..

      • Liza says:

        Wow. Very interesting.

        The third birther wife simply wasn’t up to the task. It’s that, “you can’t turn a sow’s ear into a silk purse” thing. So, of course they try to manufacture what does not exist within the person. But you can’t create an illusion of accomplishment, intelligence, and character for a person who is so lacking.

        Well, I guess the spurned Ms. Wolkoff is doing what rats in a closed barrel do, eat each other until all of them are dead or wounded.

        But Michelle Obama’s legacy is in no danger, never has been. We witnessed her work every day for eight years. She showed up every single day, for someone, and she did it with grace and elegance and goodwill. “She is loved…”

        It really is a sad state of affairs, the times we’re living in.

      • eliihass says:


        Some 2020 version of Quo Vadis playing out in real life …in the United States of America..

        Vinicius: [speaking of Nero] Is it true that the new Empress Poppea was once a harlot?

        Petronius: My dear Marcus, what a proletarian observation! You must know that a woman’s past is of no consequence when she mates with a god..

        Quo Vadis – 1951..

  4. rikyrah says:

    Please protect Joe and Jill Biden 🙏🙏🙏

    • vitaminlover says:

      I love how President Biden ain’t scurred of his arse. He WILL chew him up and spit him out! Yes I said President Biden.

  5. rikyrah says:

    There you go..
    The crazyfication factor 🤔🤔

  6. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄😄😄

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