Please, we must continue to call out the media’s blatant attempts to deny RACISM in the massacre of 9 Black people in Emmanuel AME Charleston, South Carolina church
The face of DENIAL, attempts at distracting, deflecting, and full out support of blaming black folks for their deaths at the hands of RACISM, and their efforts to MAINTAIN WHITE SUPREMACY.
THERE IS NO DENYING CHUCK TODD & MSNBC, 21 year old Dylann Roof is a racist, murdering white man who massacred 9 black people in a HISTORICALLY BLACK church.
Chuck Todd Addresses Racist Charleston Gun Violence With Segment About Black Murderers http://t.co/7WASUHTYos pic.twitter.com/GBlLlHQFdi
— Crooks and Liars (@crooksandliars) June 21, 2015
From Chauncey DeVega
He is Not a Twenty-First Century White Supremacy ‘Mindweapon’: The ‘Last Rhodesian’ Dylann Roof’s ‘Manifesto’ is Tedious, Boilerplate, White Supremacist Claptrap
There is a furious effort now on the part of the so called mainstream media, to blunt the racism angle of this shooting, which really is the only angle, to avoid having the discussion that needs to be had. Yes, guns are a problem. But racism is an even bigger problem; its the catalyst for the devastating use of guns in a lot of cases. Racism was the focus of the Charleston killer. He wasn’t there to make a statement on the second amendment or gun rights, he was there to kill black people for being black, to start a race war.
If anything, what the media needs to be exploring are the beliefs of people like Roof. Where do they come from? Why do they persist in believing things that are not true, in order to keep alive the hatred that seems to be the only thing that really animates them politically? If they were going to air a segment, why not air one of white male killers, who are damn near the sole perpetrators of mass killing, and ask them why they did it?
And a must read here by Chauncey DeVega of WARN;
ALL OF THIS. The media better get to steppin’ & report the TRUTH ALREADY!
New is thread up!
Myrlie Evers calls out the @WSJ for referring to the racist terrorist who gunned down 9 church members as ‘Mr’.
Can you post on new thread too, SG2? Thanks!
Police release video of Dylann Roof’s arrest
What? They didn’t snap his spine, choke him, or throw him to the ground?
Treated with kid gloves. I heard they treated himto Burger King food. How humane.
My heart aches for Tamir Rice. 12 years old, approached and shot within 2 seconds for a toy gun. Left to die without adequate, prompt medical care. 12 years old.
If only Tamir Rice was offered a hamburger and told to go about playing with his toy gun, instead of being shot & murdered like a wild animal & Freddie Gray were treated like this
No more hamburgers for Tamir, ever. *TEARS*
Come on FBI, who funded #Dylann Roof?
Where did a 9th grade drop out get money for car?
Money for confederate license plate?
Bullets for target practice?
Bullets for killing?
Money for travel with NO JOB?
Who funded him?
All VALID questions, SG2. Dectective 101 And they’d better be collecting this information for his trial.
Dylann Roof did target practicing
He used a 45. Those bullets aren’t cheap.
Where did he get the money for travel to NC?
He had NO JOB.
Who funded him?
Dylann Roof reloaded 5X’s
Where did he get the money for ammo?
Where did he get the money for the clips?
Where did he get the money for car?
That piece of shit of a flag will still be flying during Rev. Pinckney’s funeral!
Now there’s work to be DONE on the CONSICIOUSNESS of the RACISTS. Because removing flags will NEVER solve racism.
A Civil Rights demonstration in the 60s, an AA woman stares down a man donning the Confederate flag on his hard-hat.
Major SIDE EYE!
Also, from same link:
Darnell L. Moore @Moore_Darnell 5h5 hours ago
Removal of the confederate flag must be matched by a commitment to undo the structural impact of racism as well as the cultural/symbolic.
Miss Packnett @MsPackyetti 5h5 hours ago
We also just got told that if we don’t live in SC, we don’t understand.
I understand the confederate flag just fine. So did my ancestors.
SG2 , you have been our Twitter warrior today!!
I’M ALL UP IN IT.
James Clyburn: Confederate Flag Fight Not Over
Jun 22, 2015 4:44 PM CDT
Rep. James Clyburn, a Democrat from South Carolina, says getting his state legislature to take down the Confederate flag will not be easy.
Chuck Todd apologized, for being called out for his fuckery. THAT.IS.ALL
Chuck Todd Finally Apologizes For Airing Racist Gun Video On Meet The Press
Walmart, the country’s largest retailer, will remove all Confederate flag merchandise from its stores, the company told CNN’s MJ Lee today.
The announcement is the latest indication that the flag, a symbol of the slave-holding South, has become toxic in the aftermath of a shooting last week at a historic African-American church in Charleston, South Carolina. Gov. Nikki Haley announced today that she supports removing the Confederate flag from the state Capitol grounds.
Walmart.com carries the Confederate flag as well as attire featuring the flag’s design, such as T-shirts and belt buckles.
This is good news. Wouldn’t it be great if other stores did the same?!
Remember th GOP does NOTHING that is not in their BEST INTEREST.
Any word on who took all those glam shots of Dylann Roof, the murdering racist?
The media thought they would shut us down from talking about that Murdering Dylann Roof, by whinning abut PBO saying ‘NIGGER.’
Yes; we got it. Beautiful Tweet, sG2. Thanks!
I see you Ms Twitter Warrior, SG2. MSNBC & Chuckie T’s fuckery yesterday needs continual challenge. We know the higher ups approve that shit before it’s aired. BEAT THEIR ASSES.
did ya’ll notice in the video how quickly Senator Lindsey Graham made his escape? No hugs from Nikki!
Jun 21 2015 12:01 am
Public records will always show that Susie Jackson had two children. But she raised so many relatives that her family puts the actual figure closer to 50, said great-nephew Horace Taylor Jr., who counts himself among them.
“Even my mother was raised by her,” Taylor said. “She took care of this family for generations.”
Taylor credits Jackson with teaching him how to tell the difference between right and wrong, and upbraiding him when he tended toward the latter. “I had my pants down low, and she told me to pull my pants up,” he recalls, naming a fashion choice that didn’t fly in a family which considers dapper dressing its trademark. “She showed me better ways of being a man.”
When reading the Bible, Jackson was apt to turn to Proverbs, her favorite book and the source of the verse, “Start children off on the way they should go, and even when they are old they will not turn from it.”
Jackson held a variety of jobs during her working years, yet no job was more important to the devout Christian than drawing her family close.
At one time, almost every house on Jackson’s block was owned by a relative. But her home, a classic Charleston single, was the center of family gatherings. “You come from out of town, this is where you come,” her nephew Robert Sanders said. “She opened her arms to us.”
Sunday dinners at Jackson’s house that began with one or two guests sometimes ended with dozens of people around the table. Family members who lived nearby would bring extra china, and enough turkey and ham to feed the crowd. Jackson made the collard greens. “Man, I’m going to miss that,” Sanders said. “She could stir a mean pot.”
Ms. Jackson, God rest her Soul, will be missed, as will the other 8 God-loving Souls who were murdered.
Now these politicians need to roll up into some of those white churches and speak about racism.
And then there’s this
9 beautiful God loving people had to DIE before SC took down THAT ugly RACIST FLAG. Just damn!
Gov. Haley just said history is usually filled with ‘EMOTION’ Really?
How about the present, how about America won’t acknowledge the history that has caused this ‘EMOTION’ of which she speaks, which further causes more ‘EMOTION’
Move the flag from the capitol grounds, but the rest of the folks throughout the state & this country, ya’ll keep it real and keep it flying. Thanks for playing!
How about slavery, oppression, terrifying acts of violence and killings of Blacks, suppression of the vote, false imprisonment, the Red Shirts and KKK’s deadly evil, the deadly convict lease system that hauled in Blacks on trumped up charges and on and on.
These all sound like the PRESENT moment to me.
That presser was a theatrical front for the GOP. Rep Clyburn went along to get along. Lindsey Graham hauled ass ASAP! It pained him to be up there hearing Gov Haley say those words.
NOW it’s time to take that bitch down.
Just like the Civil War, black folks lives were at stake, and Dylann Roof bravely flaunted that ugliness, and folks wonder why that rag of a flag needs to be GONE?
Sorry MSM but we don’t need you all to soothe us with the display of togetherness by Gov Haley & Company. some of us see & know what’s up with this announcement.
IT’S TIME TO REMOVE THAT UGLY RAG OF A FLAG FROM EVERYWHERE IN THE USA
Note to SC: You can remove the Confederate flag, but it will forever be known as the symbol for which it was raised and flying at the State Capitol.
White folks better start doing some SOUL-SEARCHING.
It should not be flying ANYWHERE in SC.
That rag represents the RACE WAR Dylan Roof is calling for. It needs to be gone from everywhere in the USA!
I clearly know what the GOP are up to, the flag needs to come down, NO DOUBT about this. It’s the motives. They are doing this to distance themselves from what it represents at a time when the spotlight is on them for all that flag represents.
It took a white man murdering 9 black church-going black Americans to take that ugly rag down from the capitol square. And Governor Haley continues to call the massacre of those folks, a tragedy. JUST STOP.IT.
I’m not going to let up on these people. NOT.GOING.TO.DO.IT.
Beat me to it, I’ve reposted on the other threads. THANKS!
What part of Dylann Roof’s comments “I want to start a RACE WAR” isn’t about RACE?
The FBI needs to be walking this bitch back. Dod these folks think we fell off the back of a turnip truck last night or what?
James Comey coming with THAT BULLSHIT like we don’t terrorism.
Dylan Roof researched historical significance of Emanuel AME
He went to kill black people
He assassinated a State Senator
He wanted to start a civil war.
How the hell is THAT not political?
but, but, BUT, he’s a ‘lone wolfer.” blah blah blah
QUESTION: I wonder if his use of that was intended to be provocative and given the reaction does he in any way regret it?
JOSH EARNEST, WHITE HOUSE: He does not. The president’s use of the word and the reason he used the word could not be more apparent from the context of his discussion on the podcast.
The president made clear though it’s not possible to judge the progress on race issues based solely on an evaluation of our country’s manners, the fact is that we’ve made undeniable progress in this country over the last several decades. And as the president himself has often said, anyone who lived in this country through the ’50s and the ’60s and the ’70s and the ’80s notes that tremendous progress we made, it’s undeniable. What’s also undeniable is there is more work that needs to be done and more we can do. The fact is everyone in this country should take some inspiration from the progress that was made in the previous generation and use that as an motivation and inspiration to try to make further progress toward a more union.
Stereo Williams @stereowilliams
White media should never dictate the “appropriate” time or place for a black person to say “nigger.”
Elizabeth West @Limeylizzie
From what I can discern, it’s OK for people to call the President the N-word but he shouldn’t use it himself.
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
If you were yelling at @POTUS the other day for not speaking forcefully enough on racism, no one wants to hear you praise him now.
Stereo Williams @stereowilliams
White media should never dictate the “appropriate” time or place for a black person to say “nigger.”
@PragObots now I want them to discuss racism and NOT what the President said, which is all they want to do.
tell it, Jesse!
STUPID Words like sorry for your loss, when our people are being murdered… They aren’t lost, they were murdered. Spade’s a SPADE MOFOs.
Yes; got to get the BROWN woman to make the annoucement, THOUGH.
And taking down that fucking flag does not end RACISM in SC or America, GOT IT
A new way to lead from behind
06/22/15 12:40 PM
By Steve Benen
Asked about the Confederate flag flying at the South Carolina Statehouse, Jeb Bush wants local policymakers to do the “right” thing, but he hasn’t said what that is exactly. Ted Cruz, without a hint of irony, suggested the flag’s critics are trying to “divide people.” Scott Walker would prefer not to talk about it at all.
But to witness real evasiveness, turn your attention to Marco Rubio. Asked by Politico’s Marc Caputo if South Carolina should move the flag, the Florida Republican delivered a lengthy, 211-word answer – spanning 12 sentences – that somehow managed to say very little.
“What’s important to remember, because this is coming in the aftermath of a horrible tragedy, is you have one individual with hate in his heart, who carried out an act motivated by racial hatred, And it’s an atrocity. It’s a horrifying instance. What I do think is important to remember is that the people of South Carolina have dealt with this issue before. They have found a bipartisan consensus over a decade ago on moving that flag to a new location. And I have confident in their ability to deal with that issue again.
“I think it’s important to let the people of South Carolina move forward on it. They’ve shown an incredible ability to respond to these issues in the past – as they’ve responded to recent events, not just this tragic murder that occurred by also the murder of a civilian by a police officer just a few months ago, And these communities are able to come together and deal with it. I’ve been impressed with the leadership of the state and the capacity of people to come together to take collective action. So this is an issue they should debate and work through and not have a bunch of outsiders going and them what to do about it.”
So, Caputo tried again, asking whether or not he agrees with Mitt Romney’s position. Rubio offered an 82-word response spanning seven sentences. And once again, the senator wouldn’t answer the question directly.
The famileis of the Charleston 9 may have forgiven that murderer, Dylann Roof, but they will never forget. I and my family will not forgive and nor will we ever FORGET.
From The comment section of Charles Pierce’s article this was a great catch
Michael Doane · Top Commenter · University of South Dakota
Usually when suffering through another round of MTP, I want to throw a brick at the TV screen at least once or twice a week. When Chuck Todd physically pivoted his body AWAY from Eugene Robinson after being reminded that all of the interviewees were black I wanted to light the TV, and my house, on fire.
And the follow up
Larry Piltz · Top Commenter
Michael, good catch about Todd’s reactionary body language. He could not help himself. Robinson exposed Todd’s racist inclinations, and Todd couldn’t face it. He firmly believes in his whiteness as entitlement, and his body language displayed his smugness about being in the majority.
You got a good sense of it the way he talks to President Obama. Total disrespect.
Bruce P. Knight@brucepknight
You can usually spot a racist when they get upset about a black person using the N-word. They cry because they can’t. Looking at you media.
MSNBC is conducting a survey on whether PBO saying the word nigger is acceptable. SMGDH
How about conducting a survey on: IS WHITE MALE MASS MURDERERS ACCEPTABLE?
From Charles Pierce about Chuckie Todd:
What Are the Gobshites Saying These Days?
Incredibly, Meet the Press actually defended this.
“It was a spectacular failure of judgment. It was a spectacular collapse of simple human decency. It was as lunkheaded a decision as ever has been made by a major television network. A whole lot of somebodies should be on the sidewalk at the moment after having been counseled to seek employment in the fast-food industry. Jesus H. Christ on hiatus, how does your mind have to work to think that the weekend after a racist massacre at an African-American church is a good time to run a segment on African-American convicts? This is how.”
ALL.OF.THIS X’S A MILLION!
Hate Group Gave to Cruz, Rand, Santorum
The leader of a white-supremacist group mentioned in Dylann Roof’s manifesto donated tens of thousands of dollars to Republicans, including presidential candidates Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Rick Santorum, The Guardian reported Sunday. Earl Holt, president of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CofCC), reportedly gave $65,000 to Republican campaign funds in recent years as he allegedly posted online that black people were “the laziest, stupidest, and most criminally inclined race in the history of the world.”
Cruz’s presidential campaign said it would return all the money the senator has received from Holt, while Paul’s campaign said it would donate the $1750 donation to Mother Emanuel Hope Fund. Roof, who is accused of killing nine people at a Charleston church, allegedly credits the CofCC with helping to radicalize him.
Who gets to be a ‘neutral observer’ on race?
06/22/15 09:55 AM—UPDATED 06/22/15 10:19 AM
By Steve Benen
On “Meet the Press” yesterday, host Chuck Todd asked Gerald Seib, the Wall Street Journal’s Washington bureau chief, about the inherent challenges President Obama faces when discussing issues of race. “I’ve talked to people close to him,” Todd noted. “The president is self-aware that when he talks about race he thinks it polarizes the conversation and therefore he can’t – it defeats the purpose that he wants to have.”
It’s a perfectly fair point. The way in which the president approaches these issues is complex, and it’s not unreasonable to think the White House addresses these debates differently, in part because of expectations surrounding public reactions.
But something Seib said in response stood out for me:
“Yeah, and this is the great irony I think of the first African-American president. In some ways, he finds it harder to talk about race because he carries, you know, his own background into it obviously. He’s not seen necessarily as a neutral observer.”
This got me thinking: who gets to be a “neutral observer” on matters of race? And why can’t President Obama be one?
If the point is that the president, as an African-American man, is shaped by his experiences and background, all of which contribute to his personal feelings about race, I’ll gladly concede the point. But therein lies the rub: aren’t we all shaped by our experiences and background? Is it not true that every American, regardless of race or ethnicity, draws conclusions about these issues based on what we’ve seen, felt, and lived?
bottom line here is that President Obama and any black person who has experienced the ugliness, the sting, the absolute brutality of racism gets to SPEAK ON IT. ALL OTHERS, HAVE A FUCKING SEAT
SC Governor Nikki Haley will hold a news conference at 4pm.
Take that MOFO flag down, Governor Haley. Just remember this is just a start, though, like PBO says not saying the word nigger doesn’t end racism, and neither does taking down a fucking flag that should never have been flying in the first place.
1. HOW did he support himself?
2. WHAT is the origin of the MURDER WEAPON?
3.What about his family background? Who’s been arrested?
Friday, June 19, 2015
Goebbels Would be Impressed: Republican Madness. Black Folks Were Massacred by a White Supremacist in Charleston Not Because of Race But Because of Their Religion
Some editorial matters. I am public enemy number one for the Right-wing hate media machine because of my basic truth-telling about white privilege, white supremacy, the media, and the Charleston Massacre. It is very entertaining. The Right-wing hate media machine and its supplicants are rolling around in a filthy unclean trough urinal and are desperate for me (and other truth-tellers and people of conscience) to get inside it with them. Yeah right. I just close the door, turn off the lights, throw some bleach and urinal cakes into their filthy public discourse piss bowl, and proceed to lock the door.
The Fox News Right-wing hate machine has offered up a bizarre and delusional narrative where the mass murder of black people by a white supremacist named Dylann Roof, as the latter shouted that black people are taking away the white man’s country and raping his women, is somehow really an attack on Christians. White victimology and the white racial frame are able to transform what is an obvious attack based on race to one that is really an attack on aggrieved and suffering white Christians. White victimology is political and cognitive crack mixed with meth.
BREAKING: SC House leadership agrees on plan to remove Confederate flag from SC State House grounds. Details to come…. via @fitsnews
I keep on asking what’s up with Senator Slave Catcher Scott of South Carolina. Here’s my answer.
Tim Scott says he will wait until after the funerals to make a statement on the flag ?
This is too much.
Apparently they bought him a value meal.
Magazine | ON RACIAL VIOLENCE
White Terrorism Is as Old as America
This is the privilege of whiteness: While a terrorist may be white, his violence is never based in his whiteness. A white terrorist has unique, complicated motives that we will never comprehend. He can be a disturbed loner or a monster. He is either mentally ill or pure evil. The white terrorist exists solely as a dyad of extremes: Either he is humanized to the point of sympathy or he is so monstrous that he almost becomes mythological. Either way, he is never indicative of anything larger about whiteness, nor is he ever a garden-variety racist. He represents nothing but himself. A white terrorist is anything that frames him as an anomaly and separates him from the long, storied history of white terrorism.
Who is taking the photos, FBI? He had help. These photos are no selfies. Dylan Roof is seen kneeling in front of the plantation house, slave quarters, standing in front of a faded wooden sign which reads: ‘Sacred burial ground for African ancestors’. Who influenced him, radicalized him, nurtured him, fueled his hate? Lone wolf my ass!
yep…unless he was a professional photographer……
WHO TOOK THE PICTURES.
I hope you’re tweeting this points out SG2.
I AM. Give me your questions. I’ll tweet it.
Have you noticed the number of photos that Roof takes that position in with him down and knees bent? It has nothing to do with avoiding blocking the building in the back because he is so far away from the buildings.
It reminds me of some of the poses of Middle Eastern terrorists.
Take a look:
I see what you’re saying , yahtzee.
Black folks grieving the death of 9 people shot dead at Bible study and Chuck Todd want to hurt us more with some bullshit about gun violence that don’t have ISH to do with what happened at Emanuel AME. Hell to the NO!
I think one has to ask what Chuck Todd’s ideology is.
Chuck Todd translation: Cuz black people kill too. Look what these black men did.
Sunday, 4 days after racial terrorist Dylann Roof massacred 9 black people in church,
Sunday, a day where the AME congregation are in church, MSNBC & Chuck Todd decided on airing a ‘PROJECT’ about blacks who murder, Not whites who COMMIT MASS MURDERS, like James Holmes & Dylann Roof.
WE SEE YOU
James Comey, who took the photos of Dylann Roof? Lone Wolf my arse! Who researched Emanuel AME? Who informed him about Apartheid South Africa?
Keep pushing that, SG2? Keep asking!
The more I learn about the Hon. Rev. Clementa Pinckney, the more I feel he had the potential to become a U.S. Senator, even President.
Was Roof a lone wolf? Who was influencing and mentoring him, and why?
Good questions, yahtzee!
MOFOs can forget that ‘lone wolf bullshit. Dylann Roof is a SOLDIER in the army. He has a commander
evidence these racists POS are HOMEGROWN
Why didn’t Chuck Todd interview WHITE prisoners who murdered people with guns?!
What about that WHITE policeman who murdered his wife with a gun?
What about talking about that WHITE headmistress of a school who murdered the Scarsdale Diet man with a gun?
How about interviewing Dylann Roof’s parents, Chuck Todd? Ask them where did their son get that mindset? Do they believe in the ugliness he spewed? Did they teach him to HATE BLACK PEOPLE?
Why doesn’t MSNBC get Chuckie T to interview the white males who commit mass murders and have LIVED to tell the tale?
I am a Canadian, and God knows we are not perfect. But I am so, so sorry that you have to fight so hard to try to make people see what should be obvious to everyone.
Thank you Barb. It’s RELENTLESS, the lengths they go through to distort, lie about, and denigrate BLACK LIVES.
Chuck Todd has openly and consistently disrespected President Obama for a long time. What he did today does not surprise me at all. He is a soulless, lazy, no talent sycophantic hack. My wish for him is that NBC treats him as badly as they did David Gregory (notorious for his back up dance routine during Karl Rove’s “rap” number) , who has slithered into media whoredome oblivion.
I abhor, detest loathe and despise these vipers. I’ve said it a million times but I’ll keep saying it – in their way they’re worst than Fox.
Chuck Todd, MSNBC & the rest of the trifling white media don’t want that white man to get the DEATH PENALTY, for killing 9 BLACK CHURCH-GOING PEOPLE.
Life in PRISON for Dylann Roof, but DEATH? No, keep that rat bastard alive. This is what that MTP episode was all about.
Whose lives MATTER?
MSNBC condoned that bullshit MTP episode with Todd. FUCK THEM.
They want to distract and not deal with the issue of deadly racism and White Supremacy.
They are part of the problem.
Here is what Whites individuals and decent White journalists should be doing:
The above is an excerpt from Tim Wise’s article “Heritage of Hate: Dylan Roof, White Supremacy and the Truth About the Confederacy.”