Monday Open Thread | Foreigner Week

Happy Monday, Everyone! This week’s feature is the music group Foreigner.

I know, some folks might think we were covering all foreigners. Sorry to disappoint, we’d have to cover this particular “foreigner” group in perpetuity.

Foreigner is an English-American rock band, originally formed in New York City in 1976 by veteran English musician Mick Jones ex-Spooky Tooth and fellow Briton and ex-King Crimson member Ian McDonald along with American vocalist Lou Gramm.

Jones came up with the band’s name as he, McDonald and Dennis Elliott were British, while Gramm, Al Greenwood and Ed Gagliardi were American.Their biggest hit single, “I Want to Know What Love Is”, topped the United Kingdom and United States charts among others. They are one of the world’s best-selling bands of all time with worldwide sales of more than 80 million records,including 37.5 million records in the US.

The time for Foreigner is NOW




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61 Responses to Monday Open Thread | Foreigner Week

  1. No! No! No! I can’t with this right now. It’s too much. Predator preying on a 4 year old girl.

  2. rikyrah says:

    If you can’t listen to the ProPublica tape, transcript at Texas Tribune

    The desperate sobbing of 10 Central American children, separated from their parents one day last week by immigration authorities at the border, makes for excruciating listening. Many of them sound like they’re crying so hard they can barely breathe. They scream “Mami” and “Papá” over and over again, as if those are the only words they know.

    The baritone voice of a Border Patrol agent booms above the crying. “Well, we have an orchestra here,” he jokes. “What’s missing is a conductor.”

    Then a distraught but determined 6-year-old Salvadoran girl pleads repeatedly for someone to call her aunt. Just one call, she begs anyone who will listen. She says she’s memorized the phone number, and at one point, rattles it off to a consular representative. “My mommy says that I’ll go with my aunt,” she whimpers, “and that she’ll come to pick me up there as quickly as possible.”

    An audio recording obtained by ProPublica adds real-life sounds of suffering to a contentious policy debate that has so far been short on input from those with the most at stake: immigrant children. More than 2,300 of them have been separated from their parents since April, when the Trump administration launched its “zero tolerance” immigration policy, which calls for prosecuting all people who attempt to illegally enter the country and taking away the children they brought with them. More than 100 of those children are under the age of 4. The children are initially held in warehouses, tents or big box stores that have been converted into Border Patrol detention facilities.

  3. rikyrah says:

    New: ProPublica has obtained audio from inside a U.S. Customs and Border Protection facility, in which children can be heard wailing. Border Patrol agent jokes, “We have an orchestra here.”— ProPublica (@ProPublica) June 18, 2018

  4. rikyrah says:

    Now, we’re up to almost TWELVE THOUSAND CHILDREN in the custody of DHS?


  5. rikyrah says:

    someone on another blog had a simple question with regards to the kids:

    don’t understand why the kids don’t even have simple plastic id/info bracelets like they have in hospitals.

    let’s be blunt- that is only a solution for those who actually WANT to keep up with the children.

  6. rikyrah says:

    Last month, I reported on a meeting at DHS in August, 2017, in which Administration officials advocated for family separation to deter migrants, including asylum seekers, from Central America. Guess what was also on the agenda in that meeting?

    Ending the Flores Agreement, which mandated that the government meet minimum requirements for how to treat immigrant kids in government custody.

    Since the late 1990s, the terms of Flores got shored up and strengthened, through a 2008 law and subsequent direction from the courts. To those in the Admin who advocate separation of families, putting an end to these protections was a priority, too. Why?

    Stephen Miller, Gene Hamilton, Jeff Sessions—they all thought that ending these protections would discourage families and kids from migrating north to seek asylum. Without Flores, etc, kids could be held in detention longer, under tougher conditions.

    Family separation. Curbing asylum (e.g. sessions’ decision last week). Chipping away at Flores. All are of a piece.

  7. Ametia says:

    With GOP and especially since 45 co-opted our White House,


    It’s the end result of ANY and ALL of their actions.

  8. rikyrah says:

    One way to help families at the border is by donating to the Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services (RAICES) in Texas:
    They have a Family Reunification and Bond Fund and need help.
    CC. @JeffLieber — signal boost?

    — Stephanie S. Thompson 💪🏼 (@Stefaniya) June 18, 2018

  9. rikyrah says:

    Who is making money off housing the children and families. That’s who we need to go after since Republicans clearly have no morals.— Dirty Computer (@Johngcole) June 18, 2018

  10. Kirstjen Nielsen, the gingerbread witch is fine with putting kids in cages because they’re being fed and clothed. She’s not concerned about the trauma they’re suffering.

  11. rikyrah says:


    — Andie the Obamanista (@TheObamanista) June 18, 2018

  12. rikyrah says:

    Just a reminder…


    WHY haven’t their children been returned to them?

    WHAT is the process by where these children will be reunited with their DEPORTED PARENTS?

  13. rikyrah says:

    Trump grew up in a KKK household. He’s done nothing but project misery every single day. He dehumanizes all POC & immigrants with lies about criminality & crime rates. His mission is to rip away civil rights of 1st A & voting. He’s increasingly projecting all of this onto Europe.

    — meta (@metaquest) June 18, 2018

  14. rikyrah says:

    Once again….
    Every Democrat needs the attitude of either
    Ted Lieu
    Maxine Waters

    Dear @SecNielsen: You are lying. Period.

    How do we know you are lying Sec Nielsen? Because Stephen Miller pushed for the policy change & AG Sessions gleefully announced it.

    Also, 2000 kids didn’t voluntarily decide to leave their parents. You forced the separation. Get it?

    — Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) June 18, 2018

  15. rikyrah says:

    Currently, the Trump administration is arguing that its family-separation policy:

    – is a deterrent

    – is biblically compliant

    – is the Democrats’ fault

    – does not exist.

    — Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 18, 2018

  16. rikyrah says:

    A poster on another blog makes a good point:

    For those that don’t understand just how horrific this is….there are no plans to actually reunite these children with their parents or family members that are US residents. NONE. The question should be what does ICE plan to do with them? Keep them for how long? Till what? Yeah the conditions are horrid…but are these conditions for permanent stay? Yeah, ask that….exactly how long do they keep children there and then what? Released to who?

    That’s another point that must be made..
    They are NOT being released to said relatives.

  17. rikyrah says:

    Trump: Give me my wall and maybe these beautiful children don’t need to get hurt.— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) June 18, 2018

  18. rikyrah says:

    This is Phebe Novakovic. She’s CEO of General Dynamics, which has a lucrative contract w/ Office of Refugee Resettlement, the dept. enforcing Trump’s policy of detaining children away from their parents. Her email address, from a public source, is— Shannon Coulter (@shannoncoulter) June 16, 2018

  19. rikyrah says:

    Kay at BJ made an excellent point:

    WHERE. ARE.THE.CONTRACTS for the companies building these camps.
    Let’s. see.the.contracts.

  20. Liza says:

    Well, well, well. Mrs. Trumpty Dumpty speaks (but not wisely).

    Where is ellihass?

  21. rikyrah says:


    New England Girl • an hour ago
    Just saw an interview with Vt Congressman Peter Welch. He traveled to view the children being held at the old Walmart in Texas. He was disturbed and appalled at the conditions and voiced his determination to help change the law …when Senator Bernie Sanders was interviewed about the situation he advised he was not going to get involved.

    UH HUH
    UH HUH

  22. Oh they’re doubling down with their cruelty. This barbarism would never happen to little white kids. This Administration is treating immigrant families like they’re animals. Racism is driving this bish!

  23. rikyrah says:

    This needs to be impressed upon…


    Don’t forget that.

    japa21 says:
    June 18, 2018 at 10:03 am
    The excuse given when people arrive seeking asylum and they are turned away is that we don’t have the facilities or capacity to handle them. Yet, amazingly, there is enough capacity to hold all those who, because they have been refused at legal points of entry, are so desperate they try other ways.

  24. rikyrah says:


    Donald Trump has launched an unprecedented attack on Angela Merkel’s government, tweeting that “the people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition”.
    While the US president has previously been openly critical of Germany’s export surplus and defence spending, he has refrained from openly criticising the country’s migration policy since taking office in 2017.
    In November 2014, during the US presidential campaign, Trump called Merkel’s decision to keep open the country’s borders to Syrian refugees in the summer of 2015 as “insane”.

    In his latest tweet, Trump also said “crime in Germany is way up”. In May, Germany’s interior ministry recorded the lowest crime levels since 1992.
    “Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture!” he added.
    In a second tweet, Trump noted:

    We don’t want what is happening with immigration in Europe to happen with us!

  25. rikyrah says:


    This just in from @davidbegnaud: Border Patrol has reached out to @cbsthismorning and said they are “very uncomfortable” with the use of the word cages. They say it’s not inaccurate and added that they may be cages but people are not being treated like animals.— CBS This Morning (@CBSThisMorning) June 18, 2018

  26. rikyrah says:


    DOOCY: Some refer to these [child detention facilities] as cages. I’m from a farm community, I see the chain-link fences, it’s more like a security pen to me.

    UH HUH
    UH HUH

    But, farms deal with ANIMALS, muthaphucka.

  27. If this cruelty the Trump Administration is f’ing me up, imagine what it’s doing to the children? They’re stripped from their parents arms, kids crying until they’re vomiting, siblings banned from hugging each other. STOP THIS GOT DAMN EVIL! #FamiliesBelongTogether

  28. Hakeem Jeffries said on Morning Joe, ICE agents took a child from the father at 3am in the morning & the father demonstrated to them how he got down on his knees & begged them not to take the child. WTF is this ISH? This can’t be real, y’all. Wake me up from this hellish nightmare

  29. Hey, folks! Look at the money involved in these concentration prison camps………. F’ING MONSTERS PROFITING!

  30. rikyrah says:

    Trump sees immigrant children as bargaining chips in political fight
    06/18/18 08:40 AM
    By Steve Benen


    ndeed, the New York Times had an excellent piece over the weekend documenting how the president and his team decided to pull the trigger in recent months.

    [F]or George W. Bush and Barack Obama, the idea of crying children torn from their parents’ arms was simply too inhumane – and too politically perilous – to embrace as policy, and Mr. Trump, though he had made an immigration crackdown one of the central issues of his campaign, succumbed to the same reality, publicly dropping the idea after [White House Chief of Staff John Kelly’s comments in March] touched off a swift backlash.

    But advocates inside the administration, most prominently Stephen Miller, Mr. Trump’s senior policy adviser, never gave up on the idea. Last month, facing a sharp uptick in illegal border crossings, Mr. Trump ordered a new effort to criminally prosecute anyone who crossed the border unlawfully – with few exceptions for parents traveling with their minor children.

    We know when the president did this, we know why, and we know how. We even know who was helping drive the decision behind the scenes. Trump may be desperate to shift the blame for his policy to those who have nothing to do with it, but top members of his team have openly acknowledged that this was, and is, the White House’s idea.

  31. rikyrah says:

    Here’s How You Can Help Fight Family Separation at the Border
    Lawyers, translators, donations, protest.

    JUNE 15, 2018

    If you’re horrified by news of families being separated at the borders, here’s a bit of news you can use.

    First, the policy: It helps to be incredibly clear on what the law is, and what has and has not changed. When Donald Trump and Sarah Huckabee Sanders say that the policy of separating children from their parents upon entry is a law passed by Democrats that Democrats will not fix, they are lying.

    There are two different policies in play, and both are new.

  32. rikyrah says:

    A really good primer of instructions for you, if you decide to go out and protest.

    Peaceful Assembly and Personal Security – Re-upped
    by Adam L Silverman
    11:15 pm on June 17, 2018

    I know a number of you all are planning to join one of the various protests, actions, and/or demonstrations that will begin taking place as a result of the President’s family separation policy. So I wanted to re-up the post for anyone that missed it the first several times I posted it. I also saw a tweet, which I can’t find right now, from one of the protesters at the Vice President’s event last week in Ohio who said that the audience assaulted her and other protestors before event security came and escorted them out. So you need to prepare yourself that there may be violence if you protest at this type of event. I would recommend designating one member of your group to begin to record video as soon as the demonstration starts and for that person to do nothing but quietly stand and video events so there is a record and they don’t have to worry about being attacked. And one other person as the dedicated video recording person’s buddy so they can keep their head on a swivel and look out for that person’s wellbeing. Also, stay as close to the perimeter of the event, near an exit, and with your back to a wall if at all possible.

  33. rikyrah says:


    FLASHBACK: “I don’t want to rip families apart. I don’t want to send parents away from children.” — @HillaryClinton stands up for immigrant children and predicts how evil Trump’s immigration policy would be.

    — Kaivan Shroff (@KaivanShroff) June 16, 2018

  34. rikyrah says:

    Steve Inskeep
    2h2 hours ago
    More Steve Inskeep Retweeted Sec. Kirstjen Nielsen
    Asked on @MorningEdition just now about this statement that there is no policy of separation, GOP Rep. Will Hurd laughed.

    • rikyrah says:

      yeah, because separating children from their parents is SOOO funny. It’s a phucking laugh riot.

  35. rikyrah says:

    The WaPo let HOTUS put out that bullshyt statement with lies, knowing full well that they had the Laura Bush Op-Ed, which,
    1. Would go immediately to the top of the discussion list
    2. Threw HOTUS’ statement into the dustbin of irrelevance.

  36. rikyrah says:

    6m6 minutes ago
    This morning, a smiling white man looked into a camera and said, “They’re not cages. They simply built walls out of chain-link fences.”

  37. rikyrah says:

    UH HUH
    UH HUH

    A sheriff’s deputy in Texas is accused of sexually assaulting a 4-year-old girl and threatening to deport her undocumented mother if she reported the crime, authorities said.

  38. rikyrah says:

    It not even 8 am, and it’s 83 already 😭😭
    On its way to 95 AGAIN 😠
    And humid 😿
    But, if we can make it through today, tomorrow will be in the 70’s.😄

  39. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning Everyone 😄 😄😄

  40. Ametia says:

    Laura Bush
    Separating children from their parents at the border ‘breaks my heart’
    The zero-tolerance immigration policy is cruel and immoral, the former first lady writes.

    Read more »

  41. Ametia says:

    Good Morning, Everyone.

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