Open Thread | The Indictments Come Down In Georgia


Run this on a loop🤗🤗🤗🤗

Fulton County, Georgia!


Sat there watching MSNBC and waited.😁

Finally out!!!


Front page of the Atlanta Journal Constitution 😁😁😁😁

From Balloon Juice:

Crash Course in Georgia RICO & the GA Indictment

The Elements of a RICO Charge in Georgia
RICO is a somewhat complicated statute. To prove the crime of RICO, there are very specific elements with their own specific definitions. The state must also prove separate underlying offenses beyond a reasonable doubt in addition to proving RICO.

Specifically, the state must prove:

the defendant committed two or more predicate crimes (which are listed in *C.G.A. § 16-14-3);

that the predicate acts were committed as part of an enterprise engaging in a pattern of racketeering activity;

and that either:

one or more of the acts that form the pattern resulted in the defendant acquiring or maintaining control of any enterprise, real property, or personal property (including money),


the defendant was employed by or associated with an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering.

*O.C.G.A. § 16-14-3 defines and explains what these terms mean. An “enterprise” is defined as a person or business recognized under state law or some other legal entity (such as a partnership, corporation, union, etc.); or a group or association which is not a legally recognized entity but associate and identify as a group with a common purpose or goal. An enterprise can be legitimate or illegal and can also include governmental entities.

More about RICO in Georgia:

Terms Defined
“Racketeering activity” means to commit, attempt, or solicit another person to commit a specific crime listed in the statute, which includes over 40 different types of offenses. Examples of included offenses, often referred to as “predicate acts” or “predicate offenses,” are homicide, theft, fraud, perjury, commercial bribery, drug distribution, drug trafficking and dozens more. The state is required to prove at least two of these offenses beyond a reasonable doubt. The offenses do not have to be charged separately in the indictment. So long as they are listed in the indictment and proved to be a predict act, which is one of the elements to prove the RICO charge itself, that is sufficient. Furthermore, the state does not have to prove every single predicate act beyond a reasonable doubt. Proving at least two acts is all that’s required.

A “pattern of racketeering activity” means engaging in at least two incidents of racketeering activity to accomplish at least one scheme or plan that have the same or similar intents, results, accomplices, victims, or methods of committing crime(s) or are otherwise connected by distinguishing characteristics and are not isolated incidents. For example, a group of individuals decide they need money fast by whatever means necessary and agree to split the profits. One steals debit cards and withdraws money from ATMs, another forges checks, and another robs supermarkets. While these are different crimes requiring separate elements of proof, they are interrelated for RICO purposes because they were all done to achieve a single goal: gaining money. If one of the individuals robbed a bank 10 years ago, got away with it, and then forged checks as part of the group’s scheme, the bank robbery likely wouldn’t be considered a predicate act because it was an isolated incident by a single individual and had no connection to the group’s plan and goal.

Predicate crimes that fall under this Act (and may be used to show a “pattern” of unlawful conduct) include the following: drug offenses, homicide, bodily injury, arson, burglary, forgery, theft, robbery, prostitution and pandering, distributing obscene materials, bribery, influencing witnesses, tampering with witnesses or victims, intimidation of a juror or court officer, perjury, tampering with evidence, commercial gambling, certain firearm offenses, illegally reproducing copyrighted material, various securities violations, certain credit card crimes, certain crimes involving titles, destroying or misrepresenting identification numbers, possessing automobile parts with missing identification features, various computer crimes, kidnapping, false imprisonment, terroristic threats, motor vehicle and aircraft hijacking, insurance fraud, usurious payday loans, deceptive commercial e-mail, and residential mortgage fraud.

A conviction under Georgia’s RICO statute will result in a 5- to 20-year sentence, a fine, or both. A judge may fine a defendant up to three times the amount of any money obtained by the defendant during the scheme.

Because of a previous crooked Georgia Governor, pardon power has been REMOVED from the authority of the Georgia Governor. Kemp can’t do shyt in terms of a pardon.

Hillary was right. About everything.

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48 Responses to Open Thread | The Indictments Come Down In Georgia

  1. rikyrah says:


    No better for them.

    Trump stiffed his alleged co-conspirators, whose false claims brought in $250 million
    Brian Schwartz

    Several of former President Donald Trump’s allies, including Rudy Giuliani, who are now facing criminal charges for helping him try to overturn the results of the 2020 election were never paid by the Trump political operation for work they did in late 2020.

    The failure to pay Giuliani and his team came up last week in a private interview between special counsel Jack Smith’s team and Bernard Kerik, a Giuliani associate, according to an attorney for Kerik.

    Trump and his allies raised $250 million off false claims that were peddled nationwide by people including Giuliani and Kerik, the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot said.

    That money is now helping Trump pay a small army of lawyers defending him against criminal charges.

  2. rikyrah says:

    Philander Smith College,

    What are you doing to these HONORS STUDENTS?😡

  3. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning.
    Donald Trump is still part of a RICO indictment in Georgia..
    And Brian Kemp STILL can’t pardon him.
    That just always makes me smile anytime it crosses my mind.

  4. rikyrah says:

    Windsor Mann (@WindsorMann) posted at 8:36 AM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    “The hope of impunity is a strong incitement to sedition; the dread of punishment, a proportionably strong discouragement to it.”
    —Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 27

  5. rikyrah says:

    and the MSM has a sad:

    Morning Consult (@MorningConsult) posted at 9:05 PM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    Biden is outperforming Trump and DeSantis among the general electorate: The recent focus on Hunter Biden hasn’t hurt his father’s standing against either of the top two Republican presidential candidates.

  6. rikyrah says:

    this is why he will NEVER be allowed to live down 2016

    Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (@esglaude) posted at 4:21 PM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    I honestly thought we had an opening to break the hold of Clintonism on the Democratic Party, because I did not believe white America would elect someone so obviously unqualified to be president. That was a mistake.

    ICAM with this:

    Portia ♍️ 🐳McGonagal portiamcgonagal1619 on Insta (@PortiaMcGonagal) posted at 5:18 PM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    This is the most disqualifying statement by a Black man, perhaps ever. “I did not believe white America…”

    The same white America that’s been on a grievance revenge tour since the Civil War and has fought relentlessly to obstruct every gain we’ve made?

  7. rikyrah says:

    Poor Dolt45…having to deal with criminal trials while running for President.

    post malone ergo propter malone (@PropterMalone) posted at 0:54 PM on Sat, Aug 12, 2023:
    it is an unfortunate truth that being criminally prosecuted distracts from whatever else you have going on

  8. rikyrah says:

    The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) posted at 4:45 PM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    A security camera captured the source of the first reported fire in Maui last week – a power line near the town of Kula. At the exact same time, separate sensor data showed the power grid in the area was experiencing stress.

  9. rikyrah says:

    Stuart Stevens (@stuartpstevens) posted at 0:26 AM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    This is basically a Rico indictment of the Republican Party. As it should be. Every Republican elected official who refused to acknowledge the winner of the 2020 election is an unindicted co-conspirator.

  10. rikyrah says:

    It started with ECONOMIC ANXIETY

    They continue with this bullshyt, because they continue to be unwilling to call them out for what they are.

    So, we’re subjected to the endless Cletus Safaris.

    Hillary was right. They are deplorable. She was just too kind about the % of them. But, she had them nailed dead to rights.

    Never forget.
    Their vote and support of Dolt45 always revealed THEIR LACK OF CHARACTER.

    Michael Hobbes (@RottenInDenmark) posted at 4:40 PM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    Why are they still doing this bizarre wishcasting

  11. rikyrah says:

    Tricia Cotham betrayed North Carolina (@Needle_of_Arya) posted at 9:22 AM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    So, who’s gonna tell Ari Member that calling a Black woman “overly aggressive,” when he would never say such a thing about a white man doing the very same thing, arises from the repetition of racist stereotypes about the “angry Black woman?”

  12. rikyrah says:

    President Kamala’s Hand (Again) (@myronjclifton) posted at 10:55 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    Fani Willis using their full government names is a whole damn mood!

  13. rikyrah says:


    Booker G. Washington (@TendentiousG) posted at 11:14 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    Lindsey Graham snitched. And in the media playing like he didn’t. Mike Pence played that same game until the DOJ paid him a visit.

  14. rikyrah says:


    rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) posted at 10:42 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    Hey @trevian__kutti @realtrevian, remember when I met you and you were talking all of that trash about having a Sharpie that @realDonaldTrump used to sign a bill and you called @kanyewest in my presence? All of that BS just got your butt INDICTED by @FaniforDA. #WeTriedToTellYa

  15. rikyrah says:


    BombayK (@OuterBoroRoyal) posted at 7:33 AM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    Black women can not afford to live in la la land. We don’t wear rose colored glasses. We confront reality, because our survival demands it. If that makes us seem “aggressive,” @AriMelber, it’s because we know the (rap parroting) cavalry is not ever coming to save us.

  16. rikyrah says:

    The Biden Accomplishments Guy (on Threads) (@What46HasDone) posted at 5:50 AM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    NEW: The White House has released a Fact Sheet with all of the different actions the federal government is taking in response to the aftermath of the Maui fires.

  17. rikyrah says:


    “I would advise Ron DeSantis to thank voters for their consideration and remove himself from the race,” said Alex Castellanos, a longtime Republican consultant (Bob Dole, George W. Bush) and CNN commentator. He elaborated: “There is no good way for DeSantis to attack Trump about Jan. 6 or anything else. There is no point in chaining a goat to a stake in front of a T. Rex, then asking the goat to assault the T. Rex. It has not worked out well for other goats, many stronger and smarter than this one.” Here, Castellanos’ response went into more detail about Trump’s electoral history. “So, no,” he concluded, “I would not advise the candidate who lost to the Mouseketeers to attack the T. Rex.” (Disney’s lawsuit against the state of Florida over DeSantis’ effort to revoke Disney World’s special tax status is ongoing.)

    Joe Trippi, a longtime Democratic consultant (Howard Dean, Jerry Brown) who has also appeared on CNN, was more direct: “I would tell DeSantis the hard truth. In my 40 years in presidential politics, I have never seen a worse campaign and candidate. He should withdraw from the race.” Source

  18. rikyrah says:

    Good! Those phucking right-wing clowns.

    Judge dismisses suit to halt Biden’s student debt relief for longtime borrowers

    By Danielle Douglas-Gabriel
    August 14, 2023 at 7:53 p.m. EDT

    A federal judge on Monday denied a bid by two conservative groups to block the Biden administration from canceling the federal student loans of more than 800,000 people who have been in repayment for more than 20 years.

    The Cato Institute and Mackinac Center for Public Policy filed a lawsuit earlier this month, saying the administration violated federal law by failing to produce the forgiveness policy through the traditional rulemaking process and offer the public the opportunity to comment. The groups also claimed the policy would harm their recruitment efforts and asked the court to stop the federal government from canceling any debt as the case proceeds.

    U.S. District Judge Thomas L. Ludington of the Eastern District of Michigan issued an 18-page order dismissing the case, concluding the groups lacked the standing to stop one of the administration’s latest efforts to alleviate the burden of student debt.

  19. rikyrah says:


    Sherrilyn Ifill (@SIfill_) posted at 10:43 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    A whole cast of folks told us to jyst believe in Mueller & many of the same speak up for the integrity of Jack Smith. I will do the same for D.A. @FaniforDA⁩ because we must never underestimate what it takes for a local D.A., and yes, aBlack woman to take this step.

  20. rikyrah says:


    Candidly Tiff (@tify330) posted at 8:11 AM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    Ron DeSantis campaign is cratering to depths of hell. In the whitest of white states he is at 8% compared to 17% in March. He is only 2 points ahead of Tim Scott 🤷🏽‍♀️ and 41 point behind Trump. Sitting in 3rd place with Christie ahead of him.

  21. rikyrah says:

    Matthew Dowd (@matthewjdowd) posted at 10:01 AM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    Gen-Xers are stepping up in this moment of our democracy and leading us to justice. Just think of a few:
    Fani Willis b.1971
    Jack Smith b.1969
    Alvin Bragg b. 1973
    Jocelyn Benson b.1977
    Josh Shapiro b. 1973
    Hakeem Jeffries b. 1970,…

    and there are so many more. Brava and bravo.

  22. rikyrah says:

    My President..always working. 

    Over 800,000 student-loan borrowers are set to start seeing their debt wiped out following income-driven repayment reforms
    Story by (Ayelet Sheffey) •23h
    Over 800,000 student-loan borrowers are set to start seeing their debt wiped out.
    It’s part of a one-time account adjustment for borrowers on income-driven repayment plans.
    The future of the relief is uncertain after conservative groups filed a lawsuit to block it.

    Student-loan forgiveness is set to begin for thousands of borrowers.

    On Monday, student-loan companies are set to begin discharging the debt of 804,000 borrowers who have qualified for $39 billion in debt relief — part of the first batch of borrowers affected by the Education Department’s one-time account adjustment for income-driven repayment plans.

    The department announced on July 14 that borrowers who had made the required 20 or 25 years of qualifying payments on income-driven repayment plans would be notified of their debt cancellation and that 30 days later, their servicers would begin discharging their loans.

    “At the start of this Administration, millions of borrowers had earned loan forgiveness but never received it. That’s unacceptable,” Under Secretary of Education James Kvaal said in a statement at the time. “Today we are holding up the bargain we offered borrowers who have completed decades of repayment.”  

  23. rikyrah says:

    What nonsense is this?

  24. rikyrah says:

    Trevor Bought A Bag of RICOLAAA For Tuesday’s News (@ObamaClintonDem) posted at 10:26 AM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    Pro Tip

    If you have to not only ask “Which indictment?” but instead “Which AUGUST indictment?” when talking about the frontrunner in the polls, then you should probably rethink branding youselves to something other than the “party of law and order”

  25. rikyrah says:


    Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) posted at 3:33 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    DeSantis says he has “basically moved on” from his feud with Disney

  26. rikyrah says:

    Rugged Amethyst #TexasBorn #CaliBred (@groove_sdc) posted at 6:11 AM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    If you’re a Black woman in a position of authority at your job and you’re used to being immediately criticized for whatever you do no matter how well thought out it is you’ll find the tone of this column familiar.

  27. rikyrah says:

    Dr. Virgo, Politics is a Zero Sum Game (@DrVirgo1981) posted at 5:50 AM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    I have no doubt that what they tried to do in Georgia in 2020, they did in Florida in 2016.

  28. rikyrah says:

    Hope Restored In DFW (@Kennymack1971) posted at 9:14 AM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    Trump announcing a “major news conference” on his ratchet social media app is why Alina Habba, Christina Bobb and John Lauro are the best lawyers he can get.

  29. rikyrah says:


    The Temptress of Waikiki (@Ms_PaulaEssi) posted at 7:58 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    What I love about the Trump indictment is how BLACK it is. I know that is the worst nightmare of Trump and his sycophants.
    From the lashes and 28-piece pixie cut, to the sleek bob, to the Rick Ross beard–
    Thank you Fulton County, Georgia and Fani Willis, no matter what happens.

  30. rikyrah says:

    Citizens for Ethics (@CREWcrew) posted at 10:31 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    An important part of Fani Willis’s indictment in Georgia: there will be consequences for what they did to Ruby Freeman

  31. rikyrah says:

    Sherrilyn Ifill (@SIfill_) tweeted at 10:00 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    I want to salute Fulton County @FaniforDA, a courageous prosecutor who has shown the mettle, the integrity & the fearlessness demanded by this moment. She has been threatened, maligned by Trump & his followers & underestimated by pundits. But she has faced down all of them.

  32. rikyrah says:

    PragmaticObotsUnite (@PragObots) tweeted at 8:06 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    Totally superficial tweet: The sista clerk’s fashion was on point! I loved the orange dress and her hair was perfection! The curls were crisp and clean! I just know she picked out this outfit and got her hair done specially for tonight! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 #GeorgiaIndictmentWatch

  33. rikyrah says:

    rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) tweeted at 10:44 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    All of those indicted by @FaniforDA has until noon Friday to surrender to Fulton County authorities. ALL, including @realDonaldTrump, will be handcuffed, fingerprinted and a mugshot taken. NONE will get preferential treatment. BOOYAH!

  34. rikyrah says:

    Ida Bae Wells (@nhannahjones) tweeted at 10:15 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    Once again, it is Black people who are the greatest agents of democracy the United States has ever seen.

  35. rikyrah says:

    The Chanteezy Is Real ♉️ (@iamchanteezy) tweeted at 8:50 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    Today’s interview with Hillary Clinton proves why the country should’ve listened to Black Women in 2016.

    94% of Black Women VOTED for Hillary.

    The country voted for an INCOMPETENT man (including the 53% of White Women) to ever grace the White House. I’m still salty.

  36. rikyrah says:

    philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) tweeted at 11:42 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    Rudy Giuliani, who pioneered the use of RICO when he was a US attorney, indicted on RICO charges

  37. rikyrah says:

    Skeptical Brotha 💛🐝🌈 (@skepticalbrotha) tweeted at 10:02 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    Trump, Sidney Powell, John Eastman, Mark Meadows, and GA GOP Chair Schafer, among 14 others, were indicted by Fani Willis. #IndictmentWatch

  38. rikyrah says:

    Palmer Report (@PalmerReport) tweeted at 11:04 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    Hi I’m Bill Palmer. I’m the guy who told you along that Donald Trump was going to be indicted in multiple jurisdictions, and that his life was going to end up being all about criminal charges, criminal trials, and prison sentences. I took a lot of shit for it. But so be it 🙂

  39. rikyrah says:


    𝐄𝐱𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐫 𝐏𝐨𝐩𝐞 (@exavierpope) tweeted at 11:23 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    Just a reminder this whole thing, from an initial election reaction to a Black president to attempt to overthrow an election over Black votes has been about racism

  40. rikyrah says:

    Magdi Jacobs (@magi_jay) tweeted at 6:30 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    The Republican Party is in its weakest position that I have ever witnessed in my nearly four decades of life an I do not understand why the press does not report this because it is an empirical and objective point.

  41. rikyrah says:


    Reecie @BlackWomenViews (@ReecieColbert) tweeted at 11:12 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    I’m enjoying watching these cable commentators squirm over the prospect of 15+ ⚪️ folks being herded into a courtroom like cattle to be tried as a criminal enterprise. Fani said what she said boo boo. #RICOforTrump

  42. rikyrah says:

    Skeptical Brotha 💛🐝🌈 (@skepticalbrotha) tweeted at 11:52 PM on Mon, Aug 14, 2023:
    How Fani Willis oversaw what might be the most sprawling legal case against Donald Trump #TrumpIndictment4

  43. rikyrah says:

    Stuart Stevens (@stuartpstevens) posted at 7:52 AM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    A reminder: Trump’s campaign manager, deputy campaign manager, national security advisor, foreign policy advisor, personal lawyer, top political advisor have all been convicted of felonies since Trump was elected. Campaign began as criminal enterprise & expanded to the entire GOP

  44. rikyrah says:

    Craig Mauger (@CraigDMauger) posted at 7:10 AM on Tue, Aug 15, 2023:
    From the Georgia indictment.

    Pretty interesting piece of information here pertaining to Michigan.

    Data from Michigan voting equipment being spread wide and far.

  45. rikyrah says:

    Maddow explains why Georgia Governor Brian Kemp can’t pardon Dolt45 😊😊

  46. rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊

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